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Old 08-28-2007, 04:38 PM   #13 (permalink)
georgiecas1y
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1. What do you see as the line (however blurry) that seperates BH and WH? Try to give some examples.
WH seo is when you create a website for the long term, you genuinely feel it offers value to users, so you create a pleasing design and don't annoy users with ads for the quick sale. An example is my main WH site which users enjoy and I get a lot of return visitors. BH is when you just want the quick sale so your site is full of scraped crap and aff links or adsense.

In the methods used to promote sites, nearly everythings BH. I use everything I can on my WH site to increase ranking and get more visitors without doing stuff that I know I will get banned for. Like PM spamming users of rival forums, buying links and scraping content without getting into duplicate. Most of the time I outrank the people I scarped off, lol. WH methods I'd say is more marketing, creating link bait, convincing authorities to link to you. WH seo's seem like they don't have the technical knowledge to do BH. I'm amazed that people with no programming knowledge can make decent money online apart from PPC.

2. Do you practice BH?
I dabbled in pure BH but it's getting harder and harder
3. Why or why not?
WH is handy that you can get lazy for a few months and still make bank. BH you need to be working the whole time.
4. If yes, do you own both BH sites and WH sites? Which do you focus more time on?
WH but with BH methods mostly
5. How do you feel about people who practice what you consider blackhat?
Fair play to them, I wish I had more time to delve more into it.
6. Check all that you CONSIDER blackhat with an X. Check twice if you've done it, are doing it, or plan to do it. Check three times if you simply consider it stepping WAY out of line.

[xx] Mass site generation
Comments: very basic

[xx] Content scrapers (possibly markoved)
Comments: lol, all the time

[x] Trackback spamming
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[x] Comment spamming
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[x] Blogfarms on your own domains
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[x] Mass generating parasite hosting accounts (e.g. blogger.com, wordpress.org) for the purpose of building links (blogfarms fall under this category)
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[x] Mass generating those accounts for the purpose of gaining many links to them in a short time, and redirecting traffic to another site
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[xx] Automating directory submission, including topsites
Comments: didnt write my own scripts, just use xrumer

[xx] Breaking CAPTCHAs, or otherwise bypassing them
Comments: doing this for a social netowork im spamming

[] Exploiting social news sites (digg, reddit, etc) to gain traffic MANUALLY
Comments: i'd say this is wh.

[x] Exploiting those sites in an automated fashion to gain traffic OR links. Specify which
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[x] Using social networks in an automated fashion to gain traffic
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[x] Digg rings/exchanges, stumble exchanges, or anything of the sort
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[x] Keyword stuffing (including tricks to hide blocks of text)
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[x] Referral Spamming
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[xx] Cloaking - showing relevant but highly "SEO"ed pages to the search engines (this includes things like scraped markoved content - please specifiy in the comments), and more friendly content to the user
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[] Reciprocal Linking
Comments: this is wh, has to be

[] Buying/selling Links
Comments: wh because you buy off relevant sites, buying off non-relevant doesnt work for me

[xx] Exploiting Widespread XSS Vulnerabilities to gain Links
Comments: not really working anymore

7. Any additional comments?

you mentioned nothing about social network spamming, which is what i do a lot.
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