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Originally Posted by losser
xmcp123 - a wise man once said that anyone under 25 with a heart is a liberal. Anyone over 30 with a brain is a conservative. If I understand it correctly you are in college and a good guy so you are justified in your beliefs. I on the other hand am over 30 and would like the government to keep there hands off the money I make.
In all your arguments you have not answered 1 question - (asked in 3 parts LOL) how or why is it my responsibility to take care of someone else? Were was that written into our constitution? When did we become socialists? The reason we are the super power is the system we live by. With all our faults it is still better than what else is out there.
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1)It's not technically I suppose. Which is why we have elections. To as a country decide if that's on our priorities.
2)We're not
3)A nice period of expansion was the period where unions and such came about. When we were getting
more liberal. Granted, some(like UAW) are far too powerful nowadays.
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Originally Posted by erect
I vote taxes ... PERIOD
That means I can never vote democrat, which is fine because I believe in taking responsibility for myself and my family, small government, states rights and am anti-war. Basically get the gov't out of my ass so I can make this country a better place. Now I must say, fighting a war overseas will cause our taxes to stay high even if we get McCain. So this election (like the last few) there really isn't a good candidate. Viva La Ron Paul!
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For most everything, I agree with getting the government out of my ass.
Finances are really the only exception. And getting out of Iraq would
probably provide enough extra rev for whatever the hell it is obama wants to do.
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XMCP, I'm very surprised to hear you say that. I've agreed with about everything else you've ever typed. Uhhh, I feel bad for the kids that grow up in the ghetto and all but this country is divided into 2 classes that do ok ... Rich and Poor. I'm all for giving the middle class all the breaks that we give the inner city population. I've got family and friends that work their ass off with a college degree and can't afford insurance and are still living off ramon noodles. On the other hand, I've got family on the wife's side pumping out kids living in section 8 (decent houses) and getting SSI checks, food stamps and free insurance ... all without working. Where's the fairness in that?
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Ok. Honestly, I think it absolutely sucks that that mom gets all that if she's not looking for work. But 99%+ ARE looking for work. And for the ones that aren't, I really really don't think their kids should have to suffer, not go to school, and get shitty medical care because their mom is a dumbass. Especially because that would probably throw their future kids into the same situation(no education/stability=fucked up adult)
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I'm personally for restitution for the descendants of slaves, but it's only in the form of education vouchers. Teach a brother how to fish, don't fucking feed them fish sticks their entire life and wonder why their still asking for a handout. Giving poverty stricken families money is just suppressing them for generations to come because there is no motivation or education pushing them to do better.
I'm also for population control (which helps the problem of welfare). If you are on state provided insurance, you're tubes get tied after your 1st child ... this is mandantory. I personally feel you should pay MORE taxes for each child you bring into the world, not get tax breaks. So if you can afford more kids because you earn decent money AND CAN PROVIDE FOR ALL OF THEM .. go for it. If I'm going to pay for your kids through my taxes ... fuck you, tie the tubes.
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I don't believe in reparations at all. But I'm not going to get into that one.
But getting the tubes tied? ehhh. How about one of those implants that act as birth control. That I can get behind. Less invasive/dangerous, I suspect cheaper, and temporary for when they get off welfare.
Once again, I'm not saying these guys should be rollin big. Just able to eat.