Originally Posted by riddarhusetgal

@Trigger - that's cute!
I can understand why you (and alot of people) feel that way. You know when it comes to this whole idea of "proof" what got me thinking was a couple of things:

1. Someone told me once, "just because you can't see something, doesn't mean it isn't there...."

At first I was like "get the hell out of here". Then, I started reading about the human mind alot and how often our senses deceive us. I mean think about it for a second, doesn't it feel like you standing still???

What rational person would believe that the earth is currently spinning at 8oo miles an hour.

It doesn't make fucking sense does it. But it's only because some scientist proved this a relatively short time ago in human history that we believe this.

So then I started reading about exactly how much of life's experience is like this. I mean how many things that seem to real could actually be totally different from what our senses tell us??

An example, in reality what we see "in here" (our mind) is the exact opposite of what things are "out there" as the eyes takes a flipped picture of something, sends electronic signals to the brain which then interprets it.


In reality, we aren't really "seeing" anything, we are using our senses to gather information in the form of light rays, heat rays, etc which is interpreted by the brain.

But what if there are some things "out there" which haven't been picked up by the brain and interpreted. Obviously, since the average person doesn't know that this is how the mind behaves, a "rational" person would conclude it isn't there/doesn't exist.

This is how I feel about alot of the things related to spirituality AND science. What if the "proof" (or lack there of) of a certain thing is there but we aren't looking for it in the right way....

When we see all the pain and suffering in the world, to the average person it seems like there's no god as such and he certainly isn't thinking about us "caring for us", etc., etc.

But what if it's as Einstein and this idea of a "personal God" is not correct. What if it's more "impersonal" as it were. What if this idea of "god" is really a set of universal laws sort of like physics and when you understand them and work in alignment of them they produce good results and when you break them you get screwed.

Sort of how peope thought in cave man times that the shaman who could make fire were really magicians when in reality they just discovered the physics that could produce heat.

What if the stuff they talked about in the bible like walking on water and all the other stuff people consider far out were not "miracles" as such but rather the operation of natural laws which man has yet to discover.

I mean think about it seriously. We don't think twice about man being able to fly. But just a short time ago, to suggest that something without wings could fly was the most irrational, illogical thing one could think of.

How many other things in life to we discount because we haven't yet discovered how they work?


How many other things are actually "real" and "right there" but can't yet pick up on them?