How to top affiliates make millions

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I often read about how some of the very top guys make millions from their affiliate activities in PPC. But how do they do it? Has anybody got knowledge of what their strategy is?

e.g. do they have a lot of tools that auto create sites by scraping content and then slap a template page down after using SpyFu to get keywords, then a tool to auto group those keywords etc? Or do they have a team of content writers to create the landing pages, a copywriter to write the sales pitch and a team for the PPC?

Thanks,

Jon
 


I disagree with the first sentence, agree with the second. Asking the right questions can help anyone in their strategy. If they find a way to make money in a niche - as we all can - we can't always scale. There are limits. Or we can't scale fast enough. Or we don't know how to scale using automation. And so on.

I am interested to know how some of the super successful do it. They clearly do something different from the rest of us otherwise we would all be rich.
 
As if someone is gonna come on here and say, ok, here is what I do, create a script get a team etc. that is why they are rich, they don't tell you what they do and they continue to make bank. You are sounding like you are whining and whinging because you aren't making millions
 
I haven't winged about anything have I? I am just asking about what people hear about others doing. I just don't get the attitude I am getting back from a legitimate question.

If its true that you cannot learn what works on a forum, why have one?
 
Jon12345 said:
If its true that you cannot learn what works on a forum, why have one?
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It doesn't mean they'll come right out and say it, though. After all, whatever they tell you, if you don't know what they're promoting, the advice is useless unless taken in context and compared to your own campaign. Take it all as instructions for the masses, with no actual narrowed down point.

It's all about gaining more knowledge to kill the niche you've chosen/are in now. Heck, take what they say and try to gain the methods from it. After all, as it's been said, what they're not telling you is why they make 1 mil+/yr and not 500,000 while you take the other half.

They know you want to be rich as well, but keep in mind they have to protect their own assets. After all, almost all methods are the same - but throw in a different niche/target market, and they all will either become useless, or perfect. It's a hit or miss based on the content. It's like giving you guidelines and chapter outlines for writing a book on baseball, but then turning it into a Do It Yourself for drawling. Just doesn't work, you know?

My 2 cents at least ...
 
I concur largely Bofu2U. But you might for example have an ex employee of a company that pretty much knows the strategy of their employer, but they left for whatever reason. Their previous bosses systematic approach may have proved to be effective. Consequently, that ex employee has competitive intelligence information that might be useful. So while I may not get a blueprint from the horses mouth, it does not mean to say that competitive intelligence of this nature is not available.

For example, I had a friend who used to work in the travel industry. She showed me on her PC login information for an ex client of hers and all the reports, sales data etc. Now I am not suggesting I am looking for that. Rather, I would like to gather knowledge on what the very succesful do.
 
Unfortunately know one that is making money ($100 or a million) will tell you what exactly they are doing because the facts are that this business is tough. And when they do tell you they have already exploited whatever industry or campaign it was and then they will sell you an e-book on it.

That said, so your looking for a blue print. Well there is not one. You need to just research ideas and be like fucking Thomas Edison and fail many time before you have success because success is earned and there is no blueprint. It's through trial, error, failure, sweat and blood.

I guess the best advice I can give is this and I know some people may disagree but you all know I could care less. Why genrate a lead for someone when you can generate you own leads. What are you good at? What can you sell yourself and make money? Shit, instead of making $10 a lead or referral why dont you make $500 off your own PPC camapign with your own landing page offer with your own toll free number and you ass answers the phone.

You neeed to think outside the box, think niche (your own).
 
Very true. However, for larger companies it's often very very hard to duplicate their methods due to the amount of money that they invest into it. I'm not going to lie to you and tell you that I make millions upon millions through AM or online. Heck, I'm not Jon :).

To be honest, my best month and what brought a smile to my face was the $200 and some dollars I made through Clickbank one month. That was amazing. However, when I saw that I spent around $300 to make that, I was a tad bit upset. I still don't have any methods to do it. I still haven't been successful, but I'm not going to give up.

The recipe for success is mostly your input. That topic that just churns out money and leads. Or that personal perspective that gives your visitors that "that sounds great, lets give it a try" attitude. The method that you need is your own. The traffic is the easiest to generate.

Traffic + Incentive = Profit, that's how I've seen it. Now I continue on my grind to figure out how to make that a reality. I've sunk probably 1000-2000 in AM so far for around 400-500 total return. It's fine with me, I've got money to burn. You know why I like Affiliate Marketing so much? Because anyone can get into it, but only a handful succeed.

Even the most "qualified" can try it and fail. I program in PHP/MySQL for 3-4 years, owned several web hosting companies, and been using AdWords and SEO for years - yet I can't succeed. It's a heck of a challenge, but you just need to keep trying.

Personally, I think I learn more from 1 on 1 coaching and case studies than anything else. The reason I joined WF was for the case studies - that and a knowledgeable community. That's what I'm about.

Just keep your hopes up and keep trying - but one tip that completely screwed me time and time again - don't quit on one topic unless it's complete. If you keep going for new ones you'll just lose money after losing money, and it is an endless cycle. Heck, that's how I lost a bunch of money in a month or so once.


Just take what you can from what people say. I'm going to go read the lightning round thread again.. I think that had some great info from Jon in there.

Good luck.

PS - Holy shit I wrote a book!
 
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keep on keeping on. you have what it takes to succeed. NEVER GIVE UP!

Bofu2U said:
Very true. However, for larger companies it's often very very hard to duplicate their methods due to the amount of money that they invest into it. I'm not going to lie to you and tell you that I make millions upon millions through AM or online. Heck, I'm not Jon :).

To be honest, my best month and what brought a smile to my face was the $200 and some dollars I made through Clickbank one month. That was amazing. However, when I saw that I spent around $300 to make that, I was a tad bit upset. I still don't have any methods to do it. I still haven't been successful, but I'm not going to give up.

The recipe for success is mostly your input. That topic that just churns out money and leads. Or that personal perspective that gives your visitors that "that sounds great, lets give it a try" attitude. The method that you need is your own. The traffic is the easiest to generate.

Traffic + Incentive = Profit, that's how I've seen it. Now I continue on my grind to figure out how to make that a reality. I've sunk probably 1000-2000 in AM so far for around 400-500 total return. It's fine with me, I've got money to burn. You know why I like Affiliate Marketing so much? Because anyone can get into it, but only a handful succeed.

Even the most "qualified" can try it and fail. I program in PHP/MySQL for 3-4 years, owned several web hosting companies, and been using AdWords and SEO for years - yet I can't succeed. It's a heck of a challenge, but you just need to keep trying.

Personally, I think I learn more from 1 on 1 coaching and case studies than anything else. The reason I joined WF was for the case studies - that and a knowledgeable community. That's what I'm about.

Just keep your hopes up and keep trying - but one tip that completely screwed me time and time again - don't quit on one topic unless it's complete. If you keep going for new ones you'll just lose money after losing money, and it is an endless cycle. Heck, that's how I lost a bunch of money in a month or so once.


Just take what you can from what people say. I'm going to go read the lightning round thread again.. I think that had some great info from Jon in there.

Good luck.

PS - Holy shit I wrote a book!
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There's two types of questions that're asked on forums, blogs, bookmarking sites. There's the stupid/obvious questions like:

1) What is affiliate marketing?
2) What is scraping?
3) How do people make big money on affiliate mktg/CPA? And can you teach me.

And the smarter questions where people have spent a little time actually reading the posted threads and ask follow ups like:
1) You said you used XYZ technique for your PPC campaign and I'm wondering how it might work for ABC offers?
2) I tested out your technique for DHF offer and my conversion was about half of what you got. Do you think it's a niche-specific technique?

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On other forums, the 'helpful' members will likely reproduce some thread for you to read...

Over here, we're a lot more honest in saying what we think and John and Illusion are already demonstrating an amazing level of patience...

So I don't know what you're expecting.
But this place sure as hell isn't "Ask Jeeves"
 
I make $3,500 to $4,000 per month and have no problem telling people how I do it. If they ask a question, I answer it honestly.

My biggest money making niche is health related. I've found two products that I believe wholeheartedly in and it's through the referrals of those that I make the bulk of my money.

It just seems that no one wants to blog about health topics.

I do keep other blogs going just for a change of scenery from time-to-time.

Gayla McCord
aka MomGadget
 
Jon12345 said:
I often read about how some of the very top guys make millions from their affiliate activities in PPC. But how do they do it? Has anybody got knowledge of what their strategy is?
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They put 1 and 1 together to make 2 (or 3...). They don't wait to be spoon fed information, because at that point the information is either stale or the market becomes saturated in a hurry.

You need to be able to use your noggin' to figure things out.
 
The first question is: Have you been reading the contents of this forum and related blogs like aojon.com, andrew johnson's webpublishingblog.com, seo mike's Tattooed Marketer, eli's bluehatseo.com?

The answers to your questions would be found in there.

Check out:
» PlentyofFish.com now pulling in $5-$10 million a year; Google confirms past income - Web Publishing Blog

If you still haven't figured it out yet, you need to use some of your mental functions to look at successful sites, see what they're doing well and xfer the techniques over to your niche.

Yes, the sad thing about affiliate marketing is that there's some actual work involved...
 
Here's the best advice I can offer for the never-ending noob question of "How Can I make money online?":

Read Wickedfire. All the threads. Don't give up. Just keep reading.

Note down all the cool ideas you find along the way. Bookmark them.

When you find a method/idea that REALLY catches your complete interest, and you are REALLY passionate about trying it out... give it a go, because it's probably going to be what ends up working for you. You have to love what you do before it's going to work in your favor, and anything you only give a half-assed attempt at is never going to work for you.

Focus on one key idea to start out with, and don't give up. Don't spread yourself thin by trying 100 different things. That is how most noobs ruin themselves and get a bitter taste in their mouth. Focus on ONE CONCEPT and GO FOR IT.

Only from there, can you build your empire.

I've made a decent chunk of change just following some threads and trying out the killer concepts within those threads. I learned it all on WickedFire. If I did it, anyone can.
 
Passion "PERIOD" that is what it will take to gain riches in this biz.
You will need lots of it and some really good No Doz for your long sleepless nights of great ideas and contemplations...
 
Quickest way to $1 Milliion Dollars+ by Gyppo:

Make enough cash solo to enable you to outsource your activities to the Philippines (This can be done with a few tight CPA campaigns, a team isn't that expensive). Let them do all the grunt work & boring repetitive tasks whilst you formulate & develop lasting strategies.

Once you get past that hurdle, try to develop some lasting valuable products & websites that could be acquisition targets from bigger companies. If not, at least try to cut out the middle man & start taking a larger cut of your profits (i.e. cut out the affiliate networks).

Gyp
 
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