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Old 08-28-2007, 12:40 AM   #1
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Wfexclusive Easy Way To Make 100k/Year

Since getting pwned by an asian girl-ninja and having the most emberassing pics of my life posted all over the Internet, I've actually found another way to make some hellified cash.

Project: Niche Business Directory


Exp Level: Basic - Mid-level (The heavy rollers who want to make a shit-load of money can do this To)

Cost: $150 - $600 depending on software, advertising you want to do, etc...


The concept: you create an online directory tailored to a specific niche and sell advertising/listing upgrades to niched businesses.

**note: works REALLY well with offline businesses (at least that's what I'm currently doing)


The building blocks:

1. You'll need data. I had a YellowPages.com Scraper made and pulled data from specific categories

2. You'll need directory software. You can make your own or buy some.

3. You'll need a niche (daycares, pet stuff, etc), or you'll need to go very local. and by very local I mean get suburb about it. (ex: you live in Dallas, do Plano/Frisco businesses to start with)


Obviously you can grow this bitch into anything you want, but these are the essentials.


I suggest adding some niche/local recognizable brand CPAs to your site ad 'featured advertisers' to give the feel that the big dogs are already advertising on your directory. Not to mention start making money off the traffic you'll be driving to the site.

Then, start campaigning your services to the businesses listed in your database.

BAM! Cash all day fools.






ok ok... I know you want some tips to skip past all the bullshit.... fucking lazy bastards...


Tip #1: Rates - to sell advertising as a directory, you'll want to offer rates. What I do is offer HIGH month-to-month rates ($75-$80) Vs. low yearly rates ($175 year for featured listings)

Tip #2: Banners - you can charge to make the banner for your customer ($65 - $100) and then charge for placement (impressions or time... your choice)

Tip #3: FREE LISTINGS - this is a must, because it will allow you to collect the ever elusive email address from the business owners.

Tip #4: do some really good offline marketing. you'll have the mailing info for your target market, so hit them with a packet of info about your directory, or give them a call.

Tip #5: offer shit that YellowPages doesn't. Content, RSS, Event listings, whatever. be creative.



I've sold 5 $1,000+ packages and several $300+ packages in the last month, so I proved that this shit will work, is easy, and is actually pretty fucking fun if you just sit down and do it.

Now go my children.... MAKE SOME FUCKING MONEY


AND VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!!!!!
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:51 AM   #2
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I'm currently doing ONLINE versions of this and can vouch for this method. Think of niches that have people just waiting to throw cash at you. That's all I'm going to say.

In my opinion, CorrectAD may be spending a tad too much time on one directory. All you need is one advertiser onboard then you can open the local yellowpages and send a quick letter telling them that "Hey, your competition is getting a leg up on you, here's how. And here's a similar directory we have that can put you in the same spotlight"

Once you start getting advertisers, you'll get more and more. Why? How many times have you opened the paper and saw some competitors ads and thought, "Hell, they are doing it, I should too!"

I'd rather sell 500 $500 packages via 100 directories then having just one really popular one making $1000 a premium package. Just saying.

+rep. Solid post.
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Good outside the box thinking. +rep.
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One question:

Do you go to the businesses and sell this to them? Or do you just promote your site locally? I got into making money online so I wouldn't have to talk to people.

Can this be done from behind the scenes?
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Solid post agreed... very interesting and full of info.

This shit is gold to n00bs... adding content... multiple monetization streams avail. here... Especially investing in a scraper...

Solid time put into something like this... in key niches - could be a very good thing...

Thanks for the very well laid-out post.

One question...
Say I have some really good content... for say "niche "x" doing multiple regions, etc... It would be fine for that content to be on each area/region's page (talking tons of regions w/ the right time put into this)... Articles, etc...

If that didn't make sense Im baked... just tell me and I'll try to figure it out...

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Since getting pwned by an asian girl-ninja and having the most emberassing pics of my life posted all over the Internet, I've actually found another way to make some hellified cash.

Project: Niche Business Directory


Exp Level: Basic - Mid-level (The heavy rollers who want to make a shit-load of money can do this To)

Cost: $150 - $600 depending on software, advertising you want to do, etc...


The concept: you create an online directory tailored to a specific niche and sell advertising/listing upgrades to niched businesses.

**note: works REALLY well with offline businesses (at least that's what I'm currently doing)


The building blocks:

1. You'll need data. I had a YellowPages.com Scraper made and pulled data from specific categories

2. You'll need directory software. You can make your own or buy some.

3. You'll need a niche (daycares, pet stuff, etc), or you'll need to go very local. and by very local I mean get suburb about it. (ex: you live in Dallas, do Plano/Frisco businesses to start with)


Obviously you can grow this bitch into anything you want, but these are the essentials.


I suggest adding some niche/local recognizable brand CPAs to your site ad 'featured advertisers' to give the feel that the big dogs are already advertising on your directory. Not to mention start making money off the traffic you'll be driving to the site.

Then, start campaigning your services to the businesses listed in your database.

BAM! Cash all day fools.






ok ok... I know you want some tips to skip past all the bullshit.... fucking lazy bastards...


Tip #1: Rates - to sell advertising as a directory, you'll want to offer rates. What I do is offer HIGH month-to-month rates ($75-$80) Vs. low yearly rates ($175 year for featured listings)

Tip #2: Banners - you can charge to make the banner for your customer ($65 - $100) and then charge for placement (impressions or time... your choice)

Tip #3: FREE LISTINGS - this is a must, because it will allow you to collect the ever elusive email address from the business owners.

Tip #4: do some really good offline marketing. you'll have the mailing info for your target market, so hit them with a packet of info about your directory, or give them a call.

Tip #5: offer shit that YellowPages doesn't. Content, RSS, Event listings, whatever. be creative.



I've sold 5 $1,000+ packages and several $300+ packages in the last month, so I proved that this shit will work, is easy, and is actually pretty fucking fun if you just sit down and do it.

Now go my children.... MAKE SOME FUCKING MONEY


AND VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!!!!!
Meh..Seems like too much work for me. Hustling and off line marketing is for prostitutes and crash whores. I prefer just chilling at my computer, working my magic, and pulling in $$. No off line marketing required. No cold calling. And $600 start up cost is too steep.
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meh...ok idea but requires too much work and start up costs.
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You must not see the value in content based traffic... particular niches for direct info are not too hard... figure articles on like 6 unsaturated areas (gotta research and dig bro)
Build it and flourish it... content is not that hard to come up with... and monetize it!

I currently have a few college student friends that help with content for real cheap... like $10 a pop.. and its original, keyword rich stuff... They can get two articles on the sa,e type of content done in like 50mins... factual, researched.... etc...

Plus factor in the minimal time it would take to extract data from the scraper...
Make a few calls once traffic starts building up...
Hey Sir... I run a directory that serves your "business area"
If you offer them advertising to "x" amount of potential visitors/uniques at a good package price... there is you advertising expense cut to zilch (plus you could probably profit...

Its all about effort man... i could keep going but most should have caught on by now...

Time + Effort + Research = Big Bucks
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meh...ok idea but requires too much work and start up costs.
haha I agree I want to make money online for FREE with ZERO Investment, CorrectAD I also want you to supply me with an exact tutorial, actually fuck it I want you to just use my paypal link so the money will go directly into my account, that way I can take all your money and you can do all the work.

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In case no one cought that I was being sarcastic, more or less what the fuck breen thats minimal investment, turn one sale and your in the profits.
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I know... FFS...

Look at the potential scott mentions...

500 Well targeted areas/regions...
Great content... well placed Afiill products... monetize the fuck out of it... some damn calling or emailing, you're sure to get a lot of link space to sell off in 500 areas with X amount of decent niches...

Sorry bro, the time it would take on this and investment would be earned back pronto... This is really great info...

Time would be content... build, and monetization...

Gotta put it in to receive it...

Even gotta put time into eating just so you can spend that valuable 10-15 mins a pop and shitting brother...

Open the mind
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Breen you're a fucknut go back to warriorforums. People actually work to make money here.

However I do have an amazing new ebook just released it's called "MAKE TON'z of Money While Doing Nothing" It's a numbered limited edition ebook and if you buy it before I release it to the public I'll give you a good deal for only 499$ rather then 500$. However I'm going to require a 2 page feedback letter on how I could improve it for that discount.

By the way flipping burgers is work to, on that note don't you need to get back to it?
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Fucking 0wn3d
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Haha, breen is going to go far in affiliate marketing. $600 is too much, wtf.. Successful marketers will spend that in a day. I spent $1200 for a much more powerful system that can be themed, relaunched x 1000s if I wanted. The more I launch, the cheaper the initial cost was.

BTW, I don't do cold calling or offline advertising. They call me. Give a couple POPULAR people in the market some free adspace for a year and their names coming up in google will drive the adsales for any new site. You get to use their name, they get free advertising, no brainer.

Just fucking think for yourself sometimes. You might surprise yourself.
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i spend 600 daily just for water for my programmers, dem boys get thirsty from all that coding

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i spend 600 daily just for water for my programmers, dem boys get thirsty from all that coding

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Priceless quote above, fell on the floor laughing. Great idea, looking into a particular niche myself right now and had similiar thoughts of implementing. CorrectAd: how much did the Yellow pages scraper script end up costing you?
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very straight to the point post, bro
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if anyone needs a coder for the stuff described in this post (ie YellowPages scraper), PM me. im can write you a script to do that.
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What about traffic to your niche directory?

Without some real traffic you won't retain advertisers and you won't sell advertisers on spending money with you to begin with.

How much traffic do you try to sustain before seeking out advertisers?
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Great post, but if you think this is going to wash away the memories of you being a drunken ass you are mistaken!

+rep

$600 for startup costs is too steep? Fuck man, go invest in windex and a squeegee.
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CorrectAD, how much of the technical work do you outsource? Ie is your scraper script custom coded by a freelancer or a package you found and hacked? What about design work?

I have great ideas like these but, in the end, it always seems that it takes ridiculous (read month) of design work to make and code one site to HOPE it pulls a profit (and typically does not).
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This sounds a lot like what Google is doing. You better hurry up and get some good cities. And the way I see it, you don't really need to live there to advertise, either. Just send advertisements in the mail.

This also gave me some really good ideas for expanding. Awesome. *adds to list*
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Look at the size of you, you would need to make a million a year just to keep on that regemented twinky and rare steak a day diet.
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Nice post, will be doing this with a twist
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I do have to say this is a great post for the noobs... still a great post, but shit you fuckers need to wake up and start doing things if you think this is 'new' or 'amazing'.

I've been doing this exact same thing for years now, and yes it works. Plus it helps me build up really relevant directories/sites for other ventures I want to go in to.

Say for example I want to get into Real Estate... I built several niche directories in real estate.. one for agents, one for brokers, one for home inspectors, one for builders.. etc. Get the point dumb ass's? Then I went I scraped the content from a few places and put it in the sites. I even localized the bitch too.

Guess what, people were wanting to get into the directories so I charged them yearly fees, then months down the road when I wanted to open a MLS site, BAM BAM BAM BAM.. I got targetted niche links to throw at it from all the directory site.

Shit, if you think this is new or amazing, go back to DP.. but still a good post for those that need to wake up and start building.
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Hey everyone God finally signed up for WF ^^
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Help Niche Business Directory

I need the actual niche directory listing of businesses to market my new commercial cleaning company to. Where can I get a directory of businesses in the Detroit, Metro Detroit area?
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:28 PM   #31
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Get the point dumb ass's?
Does the question mark belong to the dumb ass?

I have juneau.us which I think I'll test this on. It really just sits atm.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:41 PM   #32
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Sales genie dot come... go pay em $249/month and you can get all the leads for any kinda of fucking business imaginable...
Geo-Targeted as well
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I need the actual niche directory listing of businesses to market my new commercial cleaning company to. Where can I get a directory of businesses in the Detroit, Metro Detroit area?
Ask your local chamber of commerce. Or something like that.
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:31 PM   #34
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I'm currently doing ONLINE versions of this and can vouch for this method. Think of niches that have people just waiting to throw cash at you. That's all I'm going to say.

In my opinion, CorrectAD may be spending a tad too much time on one directory. All you need is one advertiser onboard then you can open the local yellowpages and send a quick letter telling them that "Hey, your competition is getting a leg up on you, here's how. And here's a similar directory we have that can put you in the same spotlight"

Once you start getting advertisers, you'll get more and more. Why? How many times have you opened the paper and saw some competitors ads and thought, "Hell, they are doing it, I should too!"

I'd rather sell 500 $500 packages via 100 directories then having just one really popular one making $1000 a premium package. Just saying.

+rep. Solid post.
That's some really good info Scott - I've actually started playing with multiple directories for the cross/up sells.

Instead of waiting for advertisers, I just pulled some high-powered nich-related CPAs and used them to attract the 'paying' customers. It's worked really well, too.


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meh...ok idea but requires too much work and start up costs.
hahaha what a fag

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CorrectAD, how much of the technical work do you outsource? Ie is your scraper script custom coded by a freelancer or a package you found and hacked? What about design work?

I have great ideas like these but, in the end, it always seems that it takes ridiculous (read month) of design work to make and code one site to HOPE it pulls a profit (and typically does not).
I outsourced everything. Took all of 2 weeks to get up and running... granted it's kind of ugly, it still does the job and sales are coming in.

I'll invest in design as needed.
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This thread is Hotter than a Bytch!!! Does anyone have an example of what one of these should look like?
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:54 PM   #36
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Fuck the chamber of commerce...

Go to sales genie, invest some cash with them, and U can get leads for any nice/market/type of business you looking for... ALL KINDS OF DATA

I believe they also do single (category) pricing too... Not 100% on that

Good luck
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:58 PM   #37
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Nsfw NSF REPLY

Mofo - here is an example... well laid out... and perfectly explained...

I even showed you the super awesome niches to try
lemon party - a game of bingo gone horribly wrong
Thats a very good site for an example

Please note the title of this post and icon, its very clear
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Sales Genie

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Old 08-28-2007, 05:07 PM   #39
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What the F*#K???

MoFo, that is by far the grossest thing I've ever seen in my entire life!
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MoFo, that is by far the grossest thing I've ever seen in my entire life!
drrose, that link wasnt for you...
this one is:

Welcome to Salesgenie.comô - Unlimited Access to Sales Leads and Mailing Lists

You can get business information on ANY TYPE of business,.. beware... pay-for access type directory
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:15 PM   #41
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I have seen this done with small businesses in Germany.
I should actually say been done to small businesses.

Generic domain .. something like "mycity.de" (my brain is on strike right now)
Lots of subdomains "hamburg.mycity.de" etc..

They would walk around and ask businesses to sign up for "your business page in our directory" and take something like 500$ for the privilege.

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Old 08-28-2007, 05:53 PM   #42
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Very interesting idea, but if I understand this correctly there is very little value for the advertisers - the directory owner is basically taking advantage of their interweb ignorance, right?
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Old 08-28-2007, 06:39 PM   #43
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Very interesting idea, but if I understand this correctly there is very little value for the advertisers - the directory owner is basically taking advantage of their interweb ignorance, right?
Why in the world would you think there's little value in targeted niche traffic?

As a directory, you're in a great position to do some really broad advertising (cheap and in bulk) to put traffic on your directory that none of your advertisers would EVER be able to pay for.

Here's 2 strategies I'm using to build value and drive traffic to advertisers(and remember I've only been doing this for a little over a month)

1. I offer a directory.com rewards card to save money with my 'featured' advertisers.

2. I've already had a money-giveaway contest that went really well and earned me a high paying sponsor.


So, sorry to burst your bubble... no need to fuck over the advertiser dude. Directories are valuable and people understand what they are, which makes it an easy sell for you.
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Not if you're targeting the right cities...

Then traffic should pour if theres a good niche selection...

I see $-$
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Here's 2 strategies I'm using to build value and drive traffic to advertisers(and remember I've only been doing this for a little over a month)

1. I offer a directory.com rewards card to save money with my 'featured' advertisers.

2. I've already had a money-giveaway contest that went really well and earned me a high paying sponsor.
How are you driving the traffic to the site? is it all PPC?

If the site is only a month old obviously it isn't getting much if any natural traffic. How many daily visitors do you tell your advertisers you receive?
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How are you driving the traffic to the site? is it all PPC?

If the site is only a month old obviously it isn't getting much if any natural traffic. How many daily visitors do you tell your advertisers you receive?

I've getting some good PPC traffic, and have gotten a few jackpots from YouTube and Myspace, but a majority is coming from offline advertising.

I've (and by 'I've' I mean paid someone else) already delivered 500,000 fliers to local apartments and HOAs, business carded over 10,000 cars, got a great press release mention in the local paer, just bought some ads in a local movie theater, and am doing a coop with another local portal.... so... the traffic is steadily on the rise.. right now between 150-500 hits per day.

And I don't bother lying to the advertisers that we're new, or that we're ALL THAT, but my rates are about 5x less than Yellowpages, and what I offer is about 10x more valuable and targeted.


Just don't be scared to go out there and do things to get people to your website.
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It's a good idea. I started out my online ventures doing this type of stuff, it does make money. It's a good backup to offset volatile affiliate earnings too.
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hey correct ad, ever thought of building a small forum to increase activity and create a community environment to attach this type of directory too. Would probably work super well in some niches
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whats the ballpark cost for the scaper? might be interested in doin this locally for a niche and could probably use one. not certain but considering venturing into this, so i'm jus curious
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