How the hell do I stop getting my EPN sites slapped like a bitch?

efeezy

efeezy

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It's like clockwork...every 3-4 weeks my Ebay partner network sites get slapped like a biznatch. Sure, they're a BANS style site, promoting ebay auctions which I've heard Google hates with a passion, but I put original content on each product page in addition to the auctions. Eventually my keywords always go from good 7/10+ QS to 1/10 every few weeks. Doesn't matter if I link directly to the product auction page or if I create a nice little lander...they all get slapped. So I copy it all over to a new domain, and again in a few weeks it get blasted. What the fuck.

The strangest part, and what pisses me off the most, is I have one BANS site that hasn't been slapped ever (knock on wood). It's absolutely no different than any of the other ones. Some original content, and the auctions. It's been running for 8 months now without problem. I'm just lost trying to figure out what the hell they want anymore.
 


First off, Radios plugin is excellent. I recommend getting that to add to your toolkit. . .


next..
to not get slapped up you got to dick with google a bit. . .
are all your sites on the same server? IP? Public Name Registration?

if you answered yes to any of those, then you have a place to start.

secondly I am pretty certain that Google has an identifier that it assigns to new sites that is different than anything else we know. I call it the "First Impression"

its something like

  • Quality Content
  • Affiliate site
  • Thin Affiliate Site
And what happens is that after some time, new sites get evaluated and basically hard-coded into one of these placements and will never get changed from there unless there is really good reason for someone to manually change it.

So what we have to do is "incubate" our sites a bit. Meaning we need to get Google to get its "first impression" of our site as a great quality content site.

The way you do this is just hire an indian or something to post crappy articles for a few months on your site. NO eBay Links.

Then after Google has established its "first impression" you can start loading up the crap EPN links and they will stick.

Now be a good member and hit teh thnks botton mmk?
 
oh./. and make sure your homepage doesnt look like an affiliate site of any sorts... the first review is always there. and sometimes you can fool em at the gate.
 
Add more non-affiliate content OR use something other then google for you traffic.
 
efeezy said:
they all get slapped. So I copy it all over to a new domain,
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Are you giving them a chance once they get slapped? Usually a site can rank really well in the beginning. Rank top 5 for some decent terms.
I think u might just be getting sandboxed and are not patient enough to keep building links/adding content/scaling.
 
jamman said:
Are you giving them a chance once they get slapped? Usually a site can rank really well in the beginning. Rank top 5 for some decent terms.
I think u might just be getting sandboxed and are not patient enough to keep building links/adding content/scaling.
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I'm talking about getting slapped in Adwords. My QS score starts out very good and then goes to 1/10 within a month's time.
 
efeezy said:
I'm talking about getting slapped in Adwords. My QS score starts out very good and then goes to 1/10 within a month's time.
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Does bans cloak/cover/redirect the outbound links for you?

Could be that you have 1,254 outbound "rover" links and only 2 outbounds to related authority sites.
 
if i ran any bans/epn sites i would be

1) letting them go for at least 3 months without aff links
2) masking the fuck out of my aff links with redirects and robots.txt
 
jamman said:
That is what I was trying to say by cloak/cover/redirect

thanks
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i've started calling this technique "masking" because its quite different from what is typically meant by cloaking.

i'm also curious for anyone who knows, does BANS or PHPBay do this for you? Hand coding that would be a minor pain in the ass (basically rewriting their links).
 
cloaking = showing a different page to someone particular, right? Like what people did on facebook for awhile to get things approved?
 
the other thing I would be doing if I ran these would be to view the html source and modify anything that looked like it could be easily recognized for footprinting these sites
 
jamman said:
cloaking = showing a different page to someone particular, right? Like what people did on facebook for awhile to get things approved?
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exactly, which is why I hate people calling that cloaking. Its a weird pet peeve I have.
 
conv3rsion said:
i've started calling this technique "masking" because its quite different from what is typically meant by cloaking.

i'm also curious for anyone who knows, does BANS or PHPBay do this for you? Hand coding that would be a minor pain in the ass (basically rewriting their links).
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BANS, i wouldnt know, but I wouldnt use them either for whats thats worth. Phpbay, S2P or any other good plugin will do this for you out of the box.

oh and for our vocab lesson, you may not want to call that masking because masking is what you do to basicly iframe an entire domain..

we can call it 'Link rewriting' or even 'Link cloaking"

but then we start going in circles again.. . .

I think it just needs the Link identifier in front of it.
PhpBay actually calls it "SEO URL" because they rewrite the url to match the auction title.
 
I use PHPBay right now and when you roll over the Title of any auction item, in the status bar, it looks like the link is part of the domain name, but when you click the link, it doesn't mask or cloak the url in the URL window.

That Auction2Post plugin looks pretty good. I like that populates the post with the ebay item description, photos etc, so it appears to actually add value to the page/site. I'm wondering how that would fare against the Adwords quality score slap.
 
Virtual Banker said:
oh and for our vocab lesson, you may not want to call that masking because masking is what you do to basicly iframe an entire domain..

we can call it 'Link rewriting' or even 'Link cloaking"
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Masking is a far more fitted word for this practice. You're simply not cloaking in any way and you're not necessarily just rewriting.
 
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