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Old 06-01-2007, 08:12 AM   #101 (permalink)
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100 Hackers... this is turning into a crazy drama filled thread.. I guess we can't even go a week without something fucked up happening..
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Seriously, I hate spam just as much as everyone here. I'm not saying I never spam or anything like that. Phishing is not something I would ever consider doing, as that's something I believe to be immoral.

But it's at least just as immoral as letting honest people pay for someone else's mistakes (which is what's happening since MillnicMedia is down), that's like saying : "hey 1 jew, did us harm, now let's go harm all jews).

You're never going to fix spamming with that, if you want spam to stop or at least reduce spam, use your "hacking talents" to help improve people's sites, so they are less vulnerable to spam/phishing/whatever, much more effective and no honest people get hurt in the process.
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CPAempire has you beat. *PERIOD*

Lmmfao. You make a "living" off of Millnic? You're fucking 14 years old. How much of a "LIVING" do you have to make? Your fuckin parents still feed your sorry little shitass and all you're doing is annoying the fuck out of everyone here. So stfu.
Holy shit. HAHAHAHA.
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Seriously, I hate spam just as much as everyone here. I'm not saying I never spam or anything like that.
Seriously...Wtf? That's like saying, "I'm totally against homosexuals...However I'll take a cock in the ass every now and then. But when it comes to blowjobs, I don't do that. Hell no. It's immoral and degrading."

Your hypocrisy in the statement above completely null and voids anything you said thereafter.
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No it doesn't, I'm sure you hate it when people act like an asshole, and I'm even more sure you act like one yourself sometimes.
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Their activities are criminal. They will be found. They will be dealt with. This will have no long term effect on Millnic Media. We are and will continue to be the Best CPA Network on the Planet *PERIOD*

This is but a fly in our soup. It is the hard working affiliates that are getting hurt here. People with mouths to feed. I am fine. I have more money than god. I do this for kicks. But many other people, 1000's are adversely effected by some guy who apparantly doesn't want his free iPhone...

So they can preach from the moral high ground, but they are the pieces of shit committing crimes. They are the ones who look like turds in the end.
After reading your blog post I was starting to come down on the side of you guys, but this shit just sounds so fuckin arrogant.

"Best CPA network" - best at what? best at letting some letting all your affiliates get fucked cos you don't take action when phishing/spam is reported to you?

"More money than God" - well, that's fuckin nice for ya ain't it. Why not spend some of your mountains of cash on improving your systems so this shit doesn't happen - or so when it does you have a plan b.

You claim that the attacks are from a phisher banned by millnic - care to share any evidence of this?
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Thought you brits had a sense of humour... guess not.

My mom told me we are the best cpa network and frankly i believe her.

Missing a few days of earnings isn't going to hurt us. I've seen gods bank statements, he isn't doing NEARLY as well as he was back in the 14/1500's.

As for systems, we pay a pretty penny for the ones we have and frankly we are yet to see a better alternative. It is easy to sit on your high horse and say 'I am invincible! I have never been hit like that! I ruuule!!!' It is very different in the trenches.

And you are pimping Copeac - who is on EXACTLY the same system as us. And could just as easily be in the same situation and has experienced some downtime from this as well.
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Thought you brits had a sense of humour... guess not.

My mom told me we are the best cpa network and frankly i believe her.

Missing a few days of earnings isn't going to hurt us. I've seen gods bank statements, he isn't doing NEARLY as well as he was back in the 14/1500's.
LOL - your right on that one! Inquisition was more prob a lot more profitable than evangelism! Fuck asking for money, we'll just take it!

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As for systems, we pay a pretty penny for the ones we have and frankly we are yet to see a better alternative. It is easy to sit on your high horse and say 'I am invincible! I have never been hit like that! I ruuule!!!' It is very different in the trenches.
I'm not an expert in this, but are you saying that directtrack is the best system available, better than an in-house system? Going by the comments of others, it seems many would disagree.

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And you are pimping Copeac - who is on EXACTLY the same system as us. And could just as easily be in the same situation and has experienced some downtime from this as well.
You're right Copeac could easily have been hit and if they responded in the same way I would say the same to them. I'm promoting them because in my experience their service has been shit-hot.

The DT statement said only one other network was affected, could anyone please confirm if that was Copeac?

Seeing as money isn't a problem, can I ask if and when you will be compensating affiliates? To make a comparison, when there were tracking problems with the eBay program in April CJ made compensation payments, actually over-paid as a goodwill gesture - will you (and other affected networks) be doing something similar?

I'm not with you (at present) but I'm sure other affiliates would be interested in compensation - any payments made may be recoverable if/when you take action against the people behind this.
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Thought you brits had a sense of humour... guess not.

My mom told me we are the best cpa network and frankly i believe her.

Missing a few days of earnings isn't going to hurt us. I've seen gods bank statements, he isn't doing NEARLY as well as he was back in the 14/1500's.

As for systems, we pay a pretty penny for the ones we have and frankly we are yet to see a better alternative. It is easy to sit on your high horse and say 'I am invincible! I have never been hit like that! I ruuule!!!' It is very different in the trenches.

And you are pimping Copeac - who is on EXACTLY the same system as us. And could just as easily be in the same situation and has experienced some downtime from this as well.

You pay a pretty penny? You don't even have your own dedicated DirectTrack servers while Copeac and CPAempire do. What the fuck are you talking about?
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Old 06-01-2007, 03:00 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Great...some hackers hate the myspace phishing and take it out on everyone instead of targeting the phishers individually. If I'm not mistaken they tracked this said phisher for months and the best solution they came up with is a massive DDoS attack on DT datacenter? Fucking brilliant.

So since I hate myspace and I'm sick of some of the people I know talking about it 24/7 and I decide I will take matters into my own hands so I don't have to hear it anymore by massive DDoS attack on Myspace so their isn't anything to talk about. (DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A JOKE I WILL NOT ATTACK MYSPACE).

I also don't condone phishing but the spamming part...why the hell do you think they built myspace? To see who can get the biggest friends list?

ANOTHER DISCLAIMER: I don't spam myspace either. I don't use it. I don't go there. I hate it with a passion.
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Well this seems to have turned into a bash Millnic Media Thread.

To address some people here -

1) If any of our affiliates are caught phishing they are terminated. It is in our TOS that we do not allow this activity.

2) If you would like to report phishing or illegal activity by any affiliates please feel free to email me at dan <at> millnicmedia.com

3) If you have any other beefs with us our contact information is on the website.

4) We try to have a sense of humor. As you can tell by our website we like to try and have fun at our jobs.

5) Jason's sense of humor often brings out the haters.

6) According to Digital River this attack would have brought down any network on thier system regardless of dedicated server or not.

I hope we can all get back to work soon. Many of us were effected by this attack.

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Old 06-01-2007, 04:09 PM   #112 (permalink)
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I kinda have my doubts about this being done by an ex-affiliate...
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Not really, i came clean. i actually talk to the head of myspace abuse now since i am so anti spam. millnicmedia knows that i am 100% anti spam and i believe that this myspace spam shit should not be deemed as promotion...

But i guess you could say i WAS a little terd

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I don't see how just by showing a link in the comment section means someones a phisher. Sure, theres a pretty good chance that they are but a lot of people do that with accounts that they have made themselves.
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Well this seems to have turned into a bash Millnic Media Thread.

To address some people here -

1) If any of our affiliates are caught phishing they are terminated. It is in our TOS that we do not allow this activity.

2) If you would like to report phishing or illegal activity by any affiliates please feel free to email me at dan <at> millnicmedia.com

3) If you have any other beefs with us our contact information is on the website.

4) We try to have a sense of humor. As you can tell by our website we like to try and have fun at our jobs.

5) Jason's sense of humor often brings out the haters.

6) According to Digital River this attack would have brought down any network on thier system regardless of dedicated server or not.

I hope we can all get back to work soon. Many of us were effected by this attack.

If you have any questions or concerns feel free to contact me

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AmazingHippy brought up an 'amazing' point, which you did not address -- Since you guys are sitting on oh-so-many pounds of cold hard cash, will you be compensating others who make their living through your website? Or will you simply chalk it up to 'experience' and 'lesson learned?'
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AmazingHippy brought up an 'amazing' point, which you did not address -- Since you guys are sitting on oh-so-many pounds of cold hard cash, will you be compensating others who make their living through your website? Or will you simply chalk it up to 'experience' and 'lesson learned?'

that would not be too wise as it would open you up to extortion..
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I don't see how just by showing a link in the comment section means someones a phisher. Sure, theres a pretty good chance that they are but a lot of people do that with accounts that they have made themselves.
It's pretty easy to see who's phishing. Multiple comments from different accounts on the same profile. Check the screenshot I posted a few pages back.
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It's pretty easy to see who's phishing. Multiple comments from different accounts on the same profile. Check the screenshot I posted a few pages back.
Again, there are those that make multiple accounts and send out friend requests with them. The person doing those comments could be doing that. I know people that get 10-20K accounts made a day. So it wouldn't be that far fetched that someone added two or more accounts from someone doing that.
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Again, there are those that make multiple accounts and send out friend requests with them. The person doing those comments could be doing that. I know people that get 10-20K accounts made a day. So it wouldn't be that far fetched that someone added two or more accounts from someone doing that.
What kind of moron makes 20k accounts to spam the same profile? Either way I'll look at the profiles before I report, it's pretty easy to see who's phishing and who isn't.
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<-- doesn't phish but doesn't really care. If you value your myspace profile that much, you need to get out more.
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<-- doesn't phish but doesn't really care. If you value your myspace profile that much, you need to get out more.
No one really gives a damn about the myspace profiles, it's the legitimate affiliates that are being punished for something they had no control over.
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What kind of moron makes 20k accounts to spam the same profile? Either way I'll look at the profiles before I report, it's pretty easy to see who's phishing and who isn't.
How would you know if you do it on that scale? You make the accounts, send friend requests on them all day, comment and bulletin. With that many you are going to have the same person adding one or more of your accounts at some point.
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Apparently these hackers cared. Soon I am sure they wished they didn't.
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Understood, I am referring to all the people crying about phishers. I don't understand why anybody would care this much.
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How would you know if you do it on that scale? You make the accounts, send friend requests on them all day, comment and bulletin. With that many you are going to have the same person adding one or more of your accounts at some point.
If you can't tell whether a profile is phished or not that's your problem, I'm not going to sit here and explain it to you.
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If you can't tell whether a profile is phished or not that's your problem, I'm not going to sit here and explain it to you.
Not really my problem since it doesn't concern me one way or the other. But there are non-phishers that post bulletins and comments from tons of accounts just like the phishers do. And just going by what you see in the comment section of a persons profile doesn't automatically make the owner of that affiliate url a phisher.
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That is my point exactly.
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Well for one Jon! We do not condone phishing of any type! We terminate anyone we catch. For two, they didnt hit just us they hit the whole DT datacenter.

As far as gone, these little kids need to keep on wishing. As harrison said in the previous post, several times he has helped us catch and terminate phishers. Thats how it works. We screen the affiliates, affiliates lie, they do something stupid, we catch them, terminate them and life goes on. So enough of this JUSTICE BULLSHIT. And although phishing is frowned upon, Illegal maybe not. But bringing down a company like Direct Track and all the companies involved with them,, well yeah thats illegal. We have been on the horn all day with DT and working some shit out,. they said it was a good attack, Isolating the IP's etc etc. Really who gives a fuck. Some little fag that the mom should have thrown the kid away and kept the afterbirth knows how to ddos. and gets Righteous in his thinking.

Nice one post wonder. Will pass the post to DT and maybe we will see how deep we can track the guy. I am sure with 30 networks going down due to this asshat, they will want to find him and they will have the support of multiple networks.
you guys sound pretty professional hahaha
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you guys sound pretty professional hahaha
We are professional but not the snobby ass professionalism that your probably accustomed to. We are a laid back network, been that way since inception and not going to change because 1 out of 10k do not like the way we do business and associate with our affiliates. The network was started by Wifckedfire members and I find it odd your even hanging out on WF if you get offended so easily by ones comments.
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We are professional but not the snobby ass professionalism that your probably accustomed to. We are a laid back network, been that way since inception and not going to change because 1 out of 10k do not like the way we do business and associate with our affiliates. The network was started by Wifckedfire members and I find it odd your even hanging out on WF if you get offended so easily by ones comments.
Does Chikenhole still spam myspace?
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Does Chikenhole still spam myspace?
He never did
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He used to spam myspace but now he runs a CPA company.
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He never did
ask him

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I was on earnersforum and he seemed to be a hotshot spammer

Not that it matter though. Honestly I don't give a **** what he does.
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Okay, so if he didn't spam myspace, he committed fraud, and he used to get people to sign up under his Affiliate account ids in order to advise them how to spam Myspace like he did.

Either way, someone who is a stand up model for a CPA company. And he was never a Wickedfire guy. He was a Earner's Forum guy.
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if BFHC was smart they would have just done this to msforum.biz, since thats where all phished myspace account sales threads are, and the so called support forums for mychanger...

or maybe to mychangers servers, no mychanger. no spam...

i mean they are the ones behind the penis pills ads and the stalkertrack comments thats right im talking to you BLUECHINAGROUP
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Has this problem been fixed? I have been considering signing up with Milnic, but I don't know if I should now. Anybody else have any thoughts on this?
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was fixed, back to being broken
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Is there any update on when it will be fixed for good? Has anybody over at Milnic said anything?
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just use Copeac bro
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Why has CPA Campaigns targeted as well? They have nothing to do with Milnic Network. However, I see that "engaged" is making referrals to another network, is there some sort of deal going on here?
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Why has CPA Campaigns targeted as well? They have nothing to do with Milnic Network. However, I see that "engaged" is making referrals to another network, is there some sort of deal going on here?
Yes look at my referral link above, look at that deal. They are paying me huge sums of $. Thanks Copeac for paying me $10,000 to post that referral above, you paid my rent for a few months.

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Addendum: Mill is fine to work with, but until their servers are 100&#37; sturdy, I recommended who I thought was best and who I use with no problems. So you 1 post wonder, shut your trap.
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Unfortunately CPA Campaigns is a victim of this attack as well. Why is that?
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Unfortunately CPA Campaigns is a victim of this attack as well. Why is that?
is there an echo in here?
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This thread has gone on long enough.. as great as it is to get loads of popularity, I don't think it's doing anyone much good anymore, and I'm putting my foot down and closing it. Go do something productive people.

If and when MillNic goes back up with DT or a new company, I'm sure they will let everyone know here. Until then, if you need to contact them, go to millnicmedia.com, their site is still up and I'm sure their support is still up too.
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