NEWS: Death of YPN arbitrage? Smart Pricing Launched - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

dshah · 06-04-2007, 09:41 PM

Yahoo just launched smart pricing (Quality based Pricing). This is gonna kill arbi margins

Here: Digg - YPN Introduces Smart Pricing (Quality Based Pricing)

barman · 06-04-2007, 09:46 PM

hasn't this been the adwords model for a while now?

evolve or die.

BlueMendicant · 06-04-2007, 09:47 PM

There is an industry news section you know...

nachoninja · 06-04-2007, 09:48 PM

maybe this will get it out of beta

dshah · 06-04-2007, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMendicant

There is an industry news section you know...

yeah, missed it. Hope mod can move it to right forum

xharrisonx · 06-04-2007, 09:52 PM

Fucking Christ,
uifg48g43g8h4tu

DruSam · 06-04-2007, 10:26 PM

bah, affiliate is better anyway.

gdubs12345 · 06-04-2007, 10:49 PM

damn i just submitted that to digg too

engaged · 06-04-2007, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DruSam

bah, affiliate is better anyway.

oh ya, i disagree

ScottDaMan · 06-04-2007, 11:32 PM

Smart pricing has been in google for quite some time and yet arbi still worked. So why will this be any different.

pocketrockets · 06-05-2007, 12:01 AM

Yep, smart pricing is not what kills arbi campaigns... it's the human editors that decide you are not providing a "good user experience".

Polyphonic · 06-05-2007, 04:04 AM

Also turns out that, for certain keywords, it has been in effect since May anyway.

I haven't noticed any difference but we'll see what happens. As barman said, evolve or die

jened · 06-05-2007, 12:36 PM

kudos to those of you who figured out niches to get really relevant ads on ypn!

ScottDaMan · 06-05-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jened

kudos to those of you who figured out niches to get really relevant ads on ypn!

Nooooo shit! Seriously

I must be blind...

tmoney$ · 06-05-2007, 01:45 PM

I was able to squeeze over $35k out of YPN doing arbi... I spent about $5k in PPC to do it. Not a bad return at all. Ahh the good ol' days.

dshah · 06-07-2007, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmoney$

I was able to squeeze over $35k out of YPN doing arbi... I spent about $5k in PPC to do it. Not a bad return at all. Ahh the good ol' days.

Which PPC program you used - adwords?

tmoney$ · 06-07-2007, 11:53 AM

Yes Adwords.

It wasn't intentional Arb, and my site definitely isnt an arb site. I dont even show ads until 2 pages deep.

I was basically just supplementing some additional traffic via PPC and noticed that my earning started to jump. YPN was paying rediculous RPC, so I just fed the machine and rode the wave.

bubbles · 06-08-2007, 10:53 AM

On the flip side I don't feel so scared to use the yahoo content network to display ads now.

sp111 · 06-08-2007, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jened

kudos to those of you who figured out niches to get really relevant ads on ypn!

Completely 100% true

Setec · 06-11-2007, 12:40 AM

I was worried about this when they announced it, but the changes haven't hit me yet. Maybe the traffic quality I'm sending from YSM/MSN/AdWords is good enough that it's not kicking in for me, or maybe it's not active yet.

Has anyone HAD a problem with this yet?

Quote:

kudos to those of you who figured out niches to get really relevant ads on ypn!

it's really pretty easy if you're doing pure arbitrage, putting up a page designed only to target the ads, rather than running YPN on a real content site with varied language. I run a good content site and YPN completely blows there because my pages aren't stuffed full of keywords relevant to the products they oughtta advertise. But my arbi pages have auto-generated text with Mad-Libs style insertion of about a dozen good keywords, and the targeting works fine.

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dshah Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0%	NEWS: Death of YPN arbitrage? Smart Pricing Launched Yahoo just launched smart pricing (Quality based Pricing). This is gonna kill arbi margins Here: Digg - YPN Introduces Smart Pricing (Quality Based Pricing) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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ScottDaMan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,177 iTrader: 11 / 100%	Smart pricing has been in google for quite some time and yet arbi still worked. So why will this be any different. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Gay Webmaster Forum <-- Still #1 - LOL

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pocketrockets Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,728 iTrader: 75 / 100%	Yep, smart pricing is not what kills arbi campaigns... it's the human editors that decide you are not providing a "good user experience". Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Private Network of 34, aged sites (oldest 1996!) 1 x PR5, 10 x PR4, 10 x PR3, 9 x PR2, 4 x PR1 = $35/month Status: SOLD-OUT [see thread] But Re-Opening Soon! >>Join the waiting list here for instant notification when we open!

06-05-2007, 04:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
Polyphonic Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 124 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Also turns out that, for certain keywords, it has been in effect since May anyway. I haven't noticed any difference but we'll see what happens. As barman said, evolve or die Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

06-05-2007, 12:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
jened Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: upstate NY Posts: 983 iTrader: 0 / 0%	kudos to those of you who figured out niches to get really relevant ads on ypn! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

06-05-2007, 01:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
tmoney$ Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I was able to squeeze over $35k out of YPN doing arbi... I spent about $5k in PPC to do it. Not a bad return at all. Ahh the good ol' days. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

06-07-2007, 11:53 AM	#17 (permalink)
tmoney$ Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yes Adwords. It wasn't intentional Arb, and my site definitely isnt an arb site. I dont even show ads until 2 pages deep. I was basically just supplementing some additional traffic via PPC and noticed that my earning started to jump. YPN was paying rediculous RPC, so I just fed the machine and rode the wave. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

06-08-2007, 10:53 AM	#18 (permalink)
bubbles Domainers... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 866 iTrader: 3 / 100%	On the flip side I don't feel so scared to use the yahoo content network to display ads now. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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