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Old 04-28-2012, 06:43 PM   #1
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Question Better Business Bureau

How many of you are listed? Do you care? Do you think your business does better if it is or are most people too stupid to check with them?
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:54 PM   #2
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Been wondering about this for sometime. I'm probably gonna get listed soon
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BBB Certification

If your customers aren't asking if you're accredited by the BBB, don't do it. My online ventures were never questioned about being accredited. However, my offline business is frequently asked if we are accredited.
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That's odd Riley--I usually look things up myself and don't ask the person if they're accredited. Has saved me from quite a few scams.
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you can list your business for free on BBB, costs to be 'accredited'.

IMO they are a totally scam and crock of shit. you dont need them to be successful in 2012.
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This is a good idea I haven't thought of. I am sure visitors and potential customers would consider you more trustworthy if you are listed there. This is something I have to look into.
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Don't bother, there's better things to spend your money on.
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its depend on everyone how he they want to make business.
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They are a total scam - watch this [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo8kfV9kONw]Better Business Bureau 20/20 Investigation - YouTube[/ame]

Of course a lot of the public trusts them so if you have a bad rating and people are searching for your company you are basically forced to pay the $400 to get certified and get the A rating.
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Depends on your demographic and the type of services you offer.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:52 AM   #12
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BBB is a total scam - I have had an F- rating ranked on page 1 for my business for a year now and no one fucking cares, because everyone knows it is a scam. Probably only company to actually beat out Yelp in terms of being a sheer con artist.
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:26 AM   #13
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Idiots make statements without understanding ROI. It's so freakin ign'ant to call it a scam, especially when you guys are working in a field that used to bribe ass holes to list you in DMOZ or Yahoo to get you listed in their directory (at least as much as it cost to get accredited by the BBB) which drove rankings and in turn business. The BBB drives business and also gives you a link.

In my industry, we pay for the BBB accreditation with 2 sales each year. The BBB definitely drives more than that. If it can pay for itself, you should do it, if it won't pay for itself, you shouldn't. Very simple calculation.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:37 AM   #14
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The best thing that a BBB listing is good for is the fact that if you are a local business, you can manipulate your keyword into your listing and get your listing ranked on the 1st page of Google.

Other than that, it is just a big money grab.
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Hey guys,

I run a business based at India and I do often face questions on authenticity/credibility of my business. If not BBB, what are confidence building measures would you suggest?
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BBB is a total scam - I have had an F- rating ranked on page 1 for my business for a year now and no one fucking cares, because everyone knows it is a scam. Probably only company to actually beat out Yelp in terms of being a sheer con artist.
This. Fuck the BBB. I run a GPT site and get few complaints about the dumbest shit. In a few cases im able to contest the complaints but for the most part they want me to pay a crazy ass fee to get them removed. Yelp is sort of headed in the same direction. You can pay yelp to get bad reviews removed.

20/20 did a investigation on the BBB
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:16 PM   #17
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It doesnt matter if there is a positive ROI in it, scammy mother fuckers shouldnt get our money, its the principle. Dont strong arm the public, you need us more then we need you.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:38 AM   #18
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It doesnt matter if there is a positive ROI in it, scammy mother fuckers shouldnt get our money, its the principle. Dont strong arm the public, you need us more then we need you.
How is something that gives you a positive ROI a scam? I mean, you can argue that they scam the public, but they certainly don't scam businesses.
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:45 AM   #19
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THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU IS A HUGE SCAM

Better Business Bureau Scam - the BBB is a scam

I would tell everybody who asked if I was listed to read that and anything else as they are the WORSE.


Client: Are you listed with the BBB?

Everyones ANSWER: HELL NO. WHY WOULD I PAY TO BE BLACKMAILED ON A SITE. you can have 5 million complaints but if you pay then you maintain an A+ rating.
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:11 AM   #20
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Just a quick question regarding BBB. I have my Client Business Listed on BBB. I listed it for Free but it does not have ratings. So Do he need to pay a fix amount to get A+ rating or it happens automatically according to their system based on some criteria?
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Old 12-14-2013, 07:00 PM   #21
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Add Mugshot websites and D&B to this list?
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BBB deosnt mean shit. People arent going to check with them, just like the days of slinging berries with the BBB jpg image on your advertorial lander
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Does Google, etc... look at the BBB rating?

I think it's a shakedown... we get 10K unique visitors per day and have two complaints and an F- rating... and we are trying to decide if it is worth paying the shakedown price.

I am more interested in ROI vs the principal that they are assholes shaking companies down for cash...
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Does Google, etc... look at the BBB rating?

I think it's a shakedown... we get 10K unique visitors per day and have two complaints and an F- rating... and we are trying to decide if it is worth paying the shakedown price.

I am more interested in ROI vs the principal that they are assholes shaking companies down for cash...
Personally you probably would have a better ROI, hiring an attorney and taking the BBB to court. I'm not sure what type of product you have, but their whole operating process is similar to Yelp's where they try to leverage their reputation and extort people into paying, just to have a fair rating.
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How is something that gives you a positive ROI a scam? I mean, you can argue that they scam the public, but they certainly don't scam businesses.

I would say that when they give you a rating based off of how much money you give them it is pretty much a scam for both the business and the customer looking at that rating assuming its legit.

It doesnt matter if your positive on the roi they should die off like the yellow pages.
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I think, I am confident guests and probable consumers would believe you more responsible if you are listed there. Thanks for the post.
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I wouldn't be too quick to assume that people would not check with BBB. Besides my internet adventures, I work as a digital marketing manager for a home improvement company. We have an A+ rating on BBB and constantly get referrals from them. In addition, customers often mention that they chose us because of our positive reviews on BBB.

Again, this is all in context. Here I am talking about a brick store, that has physical showrooms, locations, etc...this is not an e-commerce website that sells home improvement tools from a catalogue. All I am saying is that as part of our overall internet marketing strategy, submitting company's info to websites such as BBB or Homestars is great (given you can maintain a positive profile).

Having said that, I did own an ecommerce website (furniture) that I registered on BBB. Within a week from the registration, I had 4 negative reviews. People said they never got their items, the company was a fraud, etc...I can only imagine those were fake reviews, because at the times we had no such complaints. The reason I submitted it to BBB, is because according to my competitors' analysis, the big shots were there.

IMO no review website can hurt your business if you maintain a positive profile.
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Ugh..we used them for one of my companies and it turned into a nightmare. We had an A rating with them for over a year. All of a sudden after 1 year they sent us a laundry list of changes they wanted us to make to our website (all changes that would have decreased the conversions to unprofitable levels). This was after we paid the $300+ fee to be accredited for the coming year. We basically told them there was no way we could operate with the changes. Even went as far as showing them competitors in the industry who had A ratings using identicl verbiage as us.

Long story short, my partner got into a big fuck you argument with them and they changed our rating to an F. Also, wouldn't refund the $300 fee. Good thing we have multiple locations and tons of sites.

This is just one of multiple experiences with them over the years. Total scam.
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As someone who checks out businesses on BBB... more often than not I am checking on businesses that have messed up already. Or I tend to check in on businesses that are going to cost me a lot of money -- cross country moving services, remodeling, car mechanics, etc... If you have a lower cost product or service I would say don't bother...
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I would go with all business listings which are reputed by others. BBB, it's not a big wow for me.
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I'm not sure if BBB is a scam, I've heard both good and bad reviews about it.

But either way, if you want to be successful in your business and feel confident about what you do, I think it's best to know what's stopping you from achieving business success. A successful business rakes in good reviews so you don't have to worry. This video will help you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnzLe-WxH8k&t
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