Azoogleads Fires 16 employees in one day! - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

Jon · 09-29-2006, 10:06 PM

This is purely a rumor at the moment until we can get confirmation from someone at AzoogleAds..

A member on WF pointed this rumor post from FuckedCompany -
16 gone
Rumor has it AzoogleAds booted 16 employees today.
When: 9/29/2006
Company: AzoogleAds

Jdog · 09-29-2006, 10:07 PM

any rumor about why?

Jon · 09-29-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdog

any rumor about why?

Nope, still trying to find out why and who.. and if it's real or not.

capitalistpig · 09-29-2006, 10:12 PM

Jeeze man, didn't they just clean house a month or so ago? WTF is going on over there??

GeorgeB · 09-29-2006, 10:25 PM

Damn, just when I started making money with them.

I'm sure this won't affect much in terms of offers paying on time. Maybe offer payouts levels though..

Saadh · 09-29-2006, 10:40 PM

How many employees does Azoogle currently have in total?

wfhnow · 09-29-2006, 10:51 PM

THat sucks....Thats not good...LIke to hear if thats true on not!!!

illusion · 09-29-2006, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saadh

How many employees does Azoogle currently have in total?

Better hope they have more than 16

Jon · 09-29-2006, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illusion

Better hope they have more than 16

Hahaha!

They have two offices.. Toronto and New York City.. I'm sure this "spring cleaning" in the Fall time won't effect any of it's publishers much.

wfhnow · 09-29-2006, 11:27 PM

Maybe because of OCT 1 the fiscal year must cut back!!

chrislingle · 09-29-2006, 11:43 PM

my rep changed recently and when I asked was given the old no answer answer.

aeiouy · 09-30-2006, 12:09 AM

My rep changed recently too. Of course my old rep never responded to me. My new rep has been very helpful and tries to keep in touch.

I don't really like to hear about group firings like that.. hope it is not true.

cc23 · 09-30-2006, 12:42 AM

Yea i talk to my rep all the time through im and I im him today and no response.... I im him a few hours later.... no response... I thought it was odd b/c he usually replies immediately... today nothing... hopefully he did not receive the axe....

Jon · 09-30-2006, 01:00 AM

What are the names of your reps?

Andrew · 09-30-2006, 04:12 AM

Didn't they just add a bunch of employees?

Michel Z. · 09-30-2006, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeiouy

My rep changed recently too. Of course my old rep never responded to me. My new rep has been very helpful and tries to keep in touch.

I don't really like to hear about group firings like that.. hope it is not true.

Azoogle is changing sometimes account managers when affiliates moving up/down in monthly revenues regarding my opinion. It's more likely that a new affiliate not making much bucks (yet) will get a junior account manager and when an affiliate makes lots of money with them will get a senior account manager.

Sometimes also account managers promoting themselves when they do good business, I mean account managers also get a percentage of your leads. So when they promote themselves as a senior account manager for example that might mean also other affiliates they deal with on a daily basis. This could also influence you. I had with Azoogle so far 3 different account managers since I started with them about 1.5 years ago for different reasons!

Stanley · 09-30-2006, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShoeMoney

At first I was going to say this was BS but I have left messages on both co-founders phones and zero response so I really dunno

I guess you're one of their top earner if you have the co-founder's phone numbers.

My personal guess is that Azoogle is growing and expanding so they need to get rid of people that aren't performing well enough.

roozbeh007 · 09-30-2006, 05:58 PM

I met with them back in Affiliate Summit in Vegas. I just signed up with them like 3 days ago, but no responde yet if i've been approved or not.

holyearth · 09-30-2006, 11:27 PM

It's true. What do you expect? CPA marketing is slowing down. CJ layed off not too long ago........

Rob_TID · 09-30-2006, 11:45 PM

Would that have been revealing Ringtone promotional methods and then cleaning up when everyone jumped on teh Azoogle ringtones bandwagon?

holyearth · 09-30-2006, 11:49 PM

The NY office was opened around 10/05 ... back then the mobile vertical was producing insane results - there was no end in sight.

Anyhow, I believe the stated purpose of the NY office - to connect more efficiently with US advertisers and clients.

Lord B · 10-01-2006, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon

What are the names of your reps?

Yuli Shumsky. He seems to be still there though.

chris22 · 10-01-2006, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by holyearth

What do you expect? CPA marketing is slowing down.

LMAO..

ConceptualMind · 10-01-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ShoeMoney

This one guy i refered is doing like 500k/mo average he must be a big email marketer or something but I get percent of him and like 80 other people for life how hot is that

So basically, you own their souls?

feedbuzzard · 10-01-2006, 11:26 AM

I hope they dropped my rep, he has been totally useless - usually just doesn't reply to emails. I won't mention that his name is

DruSam · 10-01-2006, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShoeMoney

This one guy i refered is doing like 500k/mo average he must be a big email marketer or something but I get percent of him and like 80 other people for life how hot is that

Holy shit. and you get 2% of this guy's money for referring him right? That's enough to live off...

Stanley · 10-01-2006, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShoeMoney

This one guy i refered is doing like 500k/mo average he must be a big email marketer or something but I get percent of him and like 80 other people for life how hot is that

would you mind closing your account and reregistering using my referral?

5starAffiliates · 10-01-2006, 01:15 PM

Azoogle is one of my clients, but I have not heard what happened or if it's true. I talked to Mitch on Friday to ask what their top offers are in prep for my ShoeMoney Show on Tues. (Someone in Shoe's forum is giving me a list of questions already and one was, what are the hot offers right now.)

My STRONG guess is they are growing so fast they had to add lots of people fast and now they need to clean house for one that's didn't work out well.

CPA is not slowing down. Azoogle is SLAMMED with business!

Andrew · 10-01-2006, 02:54 PM

You'll read all about this in my new e-book, "The Death of CPA"

Jdog · 10-01-2006, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

You'll read all about this in my new e-book, "The Death of CPA"

Where's the link, that is a must read! LOL.

AZAlex · 10-01-2006, 08:39 PM

Hi guys,

We did in fact let go of some people in our Toronto office, around 16 employees. This has nothing to do with the "cpa industry slowing down." In fact, we are still growing like a weed. Azoogle still has almost 140 employees. In any growing company, you need to hire the best but also you need to ensure that you trim your staff when necessary to remove redundant employees, as well as your lowest performers. Just because someone "does the job" does not mean that they deserve to keep it. If someone else can service the client better, then we want the better employee to service the client. Azoogle was not built by hiring employees that were just "good enough," we want the best and brightest in the industry to lead this company.

This round of spring cleaning won't really affect affiliates at all, as the affiliate group is only growing, in fact its nearly twice bigger today than it was 6 months ago.

Hope that answers some questions, you can always reach out to me directly at alex@azoogleads.com if you have any questions.

Oh, and if you're unhappy with an affiliate manager you've been assigned or simply want to change to someone new, dont keep this a secret, you know where to find me

Cheers!
Alex

feedbuzzard · 10-01-2006, 09:02 PM

Thanks for communicating this Alex. Sounds like typical growing pains. I've been there (Powersoft in the mid 90's).

And thanks for PMing me.

DruSam · 10-01-2006, 09:09 PM

Azoogle rocks! I can't emphasize how great it is that some of their AMs like AZAlex will take the time to post here and explain what's going on.

Entrep · 10-01-2006, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feedbuzzard

I hope they dropped my rep, he has been totally useless - usually just doesn't reply to emails. I won't mention that his name is Mike Curruthers

agreed, although I got a new AM a few weeks ago who is much better.

Jdog · 10-01-2006, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZAlex

Hi guys,

We did in fact let go of some people in our Toronto office, around 16 employees. This has nothing to do with the "cpa industry slowing down." In fact, we are still growing like a weed. Azoogle still has almost 140 employees. In any growing company, you need to hire the best but also you need to ensure that you trim your staff when necessary to remove redundant employees, as well as your lowest performers. Just because someone "does the job" does not mean that they deserve to keep it. If someone else can service the client better, then we want the better employee to service the client. Azoogle was not built by hiring employees that were just "good enough," we want the best and brightest in the industry to lead this company.

This round of spring cleaning won't really affect affiliates at all, as the affiliate group is only growing, in fact its nearly twice bigger today than it was 6 months ago.

Hope that answers some questions, you can always reach out to me directly at alex@azoogleads.com if you have any questions.

Oh, and if you're unhappy with an affiliate manager you've been assigned or simply want to change to someone new, dont keep this a secret, you know where to find me

Cheers!
Alex

I don't know, didn't you read Andrew's e-book about the death of CPA?

wfhnow · 10-01-2006, 09:48 PM

Thanks for the updated...

Stanley · 10-01-2006, 09:56 PM

Alex, thanks for stopping by and letting us know.

Jon you must feel pretty special that we've got so many network managers here

EduardoM3 · 10-02-2006, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DruSam

Azoogle rocks! I can't emphasize how great it is that some of their AMs like AZAlex will take the time to post here and explain what's going on.

Alex is one of the co-founders of Azoogle.

John · 10-02-2006, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EduardoM3

Alex is one of the co-founders of Azoogle.

Apples are red

5starAffiliates · 10-02-2006, 11:27 AM

"Jon you must feel pretty special that we've got so many network managers here"

Yep it's great that so many network managers post here, but Alex OWNS the company so he's about 140 people up from an AM.

So how cool is it that the co-founder who has a million other things to do would come here to post and give us an update! Pretty cool!

Saadh · 10-02-2006, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John

Apples are red

some are green

wickedfire2006 · 10-02-2006, 01:19 PM

Alex's comment sounds to me like spin control. I was told by a pretty good source that the Azoogle people were let go because they are moving positions over to San Francisco. My source told me that nothing was said about redundancy or performance, but that they acquired a company in San Francisco and had to cut costs in Toronto.

AZAlex · 10-02-2006, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wickedfire2006

Alex's comment sounds to me like spin control. I was told by a pretty good source that the Azoogle people were let go because they are moving positions over to San Francisco. My source told me that nothing was said about redundancy or performance, but that they acquired a company in San Francisco and had to cut costs in Toronto.

No spin control at all. There were individuals in our Toronto office that were no longer necessary because other individuals in our other offices were performing their jobs.

Some people were let go due to performance issues, but this only affected a few individuals. We routinely let go of individuals that don't meet our peformance standards - as does any company in any industry.

Thanks.
Alex

Ack · 10-02-2006, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entrep

Quote:

Originally Posted by feedbuzzard

I hope they dropped my rep, he has been totally useless - usually just doesn't reply to emails. I won't mention that his name is Mike Curruthers

agreed, although I got a new AM a few weeks ago who is much better.

After over 2 years with Azoogle and 2 amazing AM's I got stuck with this guy a while back too. He never responded to a single phone message or email except for once after I contacted Alex to ask what was going on. It got so bad that I finally just packed it up and moved over to Max Bounty.

guysmy · 10-02-2006, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saadh

some are green

others are yellow

DruSam · 10-02-2006, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guysmy

others are yellow

all are worseless

pocketrockets · 10-02-2006, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ack

After over 2 years with Azoogle and 2 amazing AM's I got stuck with this guy a while back too. He never responded to a single phone message or email except for once after I contacted Alex to ask what was going on. It got so bad that I finally just packed it up and moved over to Max Bounty.

I signed up with Azoogle in Aug. after hearing all these great things about the company - I ended up getting that AM also. He never returned emails or phone calls. Then just recently I noticed I was assigned a new one and he actually called the day before I heard about all these cuts. Hopefully he will still be around.

starmarketbiz · 10-02-2006, 08:13 PM

Come on guys.... let's be realistic. I've heard from a good source that AzoogleAds is moving all of their operations to New York City. They are closing the TO office. They don't care anymore. After they got money from investors they ended firing the people that actually help built the company. Shame, shame on AzoogleAds for forgetting where they started.

Stanley · 10-02-2006, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starmarketbiz

Come on guys.... let's be realistic. I've heard from a good source that AzoogleAds is moving all of their operations to New York City. They are closing the TO office. They don't care anymore. After they got money from investors they ended firing the people that actually help built the company. Shame, shame on AzoogleAds for forgetting where they started.

...and you are?

all of a sudden we've got 1 post wonders who coincidentally know all the ins and outs of the industry

you know what starmarketbiz, I heard from a good source that you're a jackass. How's that for inside information?

aeiouy · 10-02-2006, 08:29 PM

Azoogle should really move to Arizona.

09-29-2006, 10:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
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09-29-2006, 10:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
capitalistpig Nothing To Read Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 153 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Jeeze man, didn't they just clean house a month or so ago? WTF is going on over there?? __________________ Capitalist Pig Was Here

09-29-2006, 10:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
GeorgeB Sorry... I'm back! Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 335 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Damn, just when I started making money with them. I'm sure this won't affect much in terms of offers paying on time. Maybe offer payouts levels though.. __________________ Wanna skip the crap and get real GOLD info at WF? Bookmark This Link. But if you really need to waste your time. Do it here pease

09-29-2006, 10:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Saadh y.is.Saadh.so.loveable Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NJ, USA. Posts: 888 iTrader: 0 / 0%	How many employees does Azoogle currently have in total? __________________ http://aimchecker.com/saadhishkabod.wf.gif

09-30-2006, 12:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
aeiouy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 926 iTrader: 0 / 0%	My rep changed recently too. Of course my old rep never responded to me. My new rep has been very helpful and tries to keep in touch. I don't really like to hear about group firings like that.. hope it is not true. __________________ Wickedfire is spanish for F'ed Up Make Wickedfire a better place. Click Here Hakuna Matata

09-29-2006, 10:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
wfhnow Work From Home Now Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,388 iTrader: 0 / 0%	THat sucks....Thats not good...LIke to hear if thats true on not!!!

09-29-2006, 11:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
wfhnow Work From Home Now Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,388 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Maybe because of OCT 1 the fiscal year must cut back!!

09-29-2006, 11:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
chrislingle Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,544 iTrader: 0 / 0%	my rep changed recently and when I asked was given the old no answer answer.

09-30-2006, 12:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
cc23 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 38 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yea i talk to my rep all the time through im and I im him today and no response.... I im him a few hours later.... no response... I thought it was odd b/c he usually replies immediately... today nothing... hopefully he did not receive the axe....

09-30-2006, 04:12 AM	#15 (permalink)
Andrew Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,036 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Didn't they just add a bunch of employees?

09-30-2006, 05:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
roozbeh007 RS4 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 375 iTrader: 2 / 100%	I met with them back in Affiliate Summit in Vegas. I just signed up with them like 3 days ago, but no responde yet if i've been approved or not. __________________ BoxGraphic.com - Complete Search Engine Marketing Service in Houston

09-30-2006, 11:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
holyearth Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 27 iTrader: 0 / 0%	It's true. What do you expect? CPA marketing is slowing down. CJ layed off not too long ago........

09-30-2006, 11:45 PM	#20 (permalink)
Rob_TID Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,344 iTrader: 4 / 100%	Would that have been revealing Ringtone promotional methods and then cleaning up when everyone jumped on teh Azoogle ringtones bandwagon? __________________ $50 Landing Pages from My Designer (Get in Quick)

09-30-2006, 11:49 PM	#21 (permalink)
holyearth Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 27 iTrader: 0 / 0%	The NY office was opened around 10/05 ... back then the mobile vertical was producing insane results - there was no end in sight. Anyhow, I believe the stated purpose of the NY office - to connect more efficiently with US advertisers and clients.

10-01-2006, 11:26 AM	#25 (permalink)
feedbuzzard Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I hope they dropped my rep, he has been totally useless - usually just doesn't reply to emails. I won't mention that his name is

10-01-2006, 01:15 PM	#28 (permalink)
5starAffiliates Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sun Diego Posts: 73 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Azoogle is one of my clients, but I have not heard what happened or if it's true. I talked to Mitch on Friday to ask what their top offers are in prep for my ShoeMoney Show on Tues. (Someone in Shoe's forum is giving me a list of questions already and one was, what are the hot offers right now.) My STRONG guess is they are growing so fast they had to add lots of people fast and now they need to clean house for one that's didn't work out well. CPA is not slowing down. Azoogle is SLAMMED with business! __________________ Linda Buquet :: Affiliate Management Consultant High Paying, High Integrity 5 Star Affiliate Programs 5 Star Affiliate Blogs :: 5 Star Affiliate Forums

10-01-2006, 02:54 PM	#29 (permalink)
Andrew Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,036 iTrader: 0 / 0%	You'll read all about this in my new e-book, "The Death of CPA"

10-01-2006, 08:39 PM	#31 (permalink)
AZAlex Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 73 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hi guys, We did in fact let go of some people in our Toronto office, around 16 employees. This has nothing to do with the "cpa industry slowing down." In fact, we are still growing like a weed. Azoogle still has almost 140 employees. In any growing company, you need to hire the best but also you need to ensure that you trim your staff when necessary to remove redundant employees, as well as your lowest performers. Just because someone "does the job" does not mean that they deserve to keep it. If someone else can service the client better, then we want the better employee to service the client. Azoogle was not built by hiring employees that were just "good enough," we want the best and brightest in the industry to lead this company. This round of spring cleaning won't really affect affiliates at all, as the affiliate group is only growing, in fact its nearly twice bigger today than it was 6 months ago. Hope that answers some questions, you can always reach out to me directly at alex@azoogleads.com if you have any questions. Oh, and if you're unhappy with an affiliate manager you've been assigned or simply want to change to someone new, dont keep this a secret, you know where to find me Cheers! Alex

10-01-2006, 09:02 PM	#32 (permalink)
feedbuzzard Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Thanks for communicating this Alex. Sounds like typical growing pains. I've been there (Powersoft in the mid 90's). And thanks for PMing me. __________________ There's 10 kind of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't

10-01-2006, 09:09 PM	#33 (permalink)
DruSam Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,751 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Azoogle rocks! I can't emphasize how great it is that some of their AMs like AZAlex will take the time to post here and explain what's going on.

10-01-2006, 09:48 PM	#36 (permalink)
wfhnow Work From Home Now Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,388 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Thanks for the updated...

10-01-2006, 09:56 PM	#37 (permalink)
Stanley Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,378 iTrader: 3 / 100%	Alex, thanks for stopping by and letting us know. Jon you must feel pretty special that we've got so many network managers here __________________ @soluh divide et impera.

10-02-2006, 11:27 AM	#40 (permalink)
5starAffiliates Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sun Diego Posts: 73 iTrader: 0 / 0%	"Jon you must feel pretty special that we've got so many network managers here" Yep it's great that so many network managers post here, but Alex OWNS the company so he's about 140 people up from an AM. So how cool is it that the co-founder who has a million other things to do would come here to post and give us an update! Pretty cool! __________________ Linda Buquet :: Affiliate Management Consultant High Paying, High Integrity 5 Star Affiliate Programs 5 Star Affiliate Blogs :: 5 Star Affiliate Forums

10-02-2006, 01:19 PM	#42 (permalink)
wickedfire2006 Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Alex's comment sounds to me like spin control. I was told by a pretty good source that the Azoogle people were let go because they are moving positions over to San Francisco. My source told me that nothing was said about redundancy or performance, but that they acquired a company in San Francisco and had to cut costs in Toronto.

10-02-2006, 08:13 PM	#48 (permalink)
starmarketbiz Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Azoogle - do they care Come on guys.... let's be realistic. I've heard from a good source that AzoogleAds is moving all of their operations to New York City. They are closing the TO office. They don't care anymore. After they got money from investors they ended firing the people that actually help built the company. Shame, shame on AzoogleAds for forgetting where they started.

10-02-2006, 08:29 PM	#50 (permalink)
aeiouy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 926 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Azoogle should really move to Arizona. __________________ Wickedfire is spanish for F'ed Up Make Wickedfire a better place. Click Here Hakuna Matata

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