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theNOTO · 07-28-2008, 01:04 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/te...l?ref=business

yevlesh · 07-28-2008, 01:58 AM

Another pointless attempt at beating Google. Did they ever bother testing their own search engine? The relevancy is horibble and the interface isn't much better.

-Matt- · 07-28-2008, 02:06 AM

gay webmaster forum - Cuil

RuDeDoGg · 07-28-2008, 02:29 AM

sucks..

in no particular order:
1. I think the index data is bullshit, I am getting like 4 pages of results for decent terms
2. the interface is pretty gay
3. the results page totally sucks giant donkey dick, in a lot of ways
4. Yeah the relevancy is terrible..

Razeen · 07-28-2008, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuDeDoGg

sucks..

in no particular order:
1. I think the index data is bullshit, I am getting like 4 pages of results for decent terms
2. the interface is pretty gay
3. the results page totally sucks giant donkey dick, in a lot of ways
4. Yeah the relevancy is terrible..

And one more, the server speed is suck

productionhead · 07-28-2008, 03:23 AM

Horrible search engine with unpronounceable name that makes my tongue hurt and their index data is OLD.

xmcp123 · 07-28-2008, 03:25 AM

I do not rank for shady seo, and therefore put in on the failboat.

Proof · 07-28-2008, 09:21 AM

The server is down now...and contrary to claims that they have the biggest index (press release featured on mashable) 3 of my sites that are highly ranked (serps, compete.com etc) fail to show up in their index at all.

Red_Virus · 07-28-2008, 09:31 AM

Just checked it when it made it to the top 50 on the Google Trends, some may call it as the next Google Killer, But the engine is really sloppy and gay.

Sticks79 · 07-28-2008, 09:40 AM

its. GAY. period.

xecutech · 07-28-2008, 10:33 AM

Not impressed with it at all.

Red_Virus · 07-28-2008, 10:54 AM

Wanna have a Laugh ? Cuil is such a shame.

Razeen · 07-28-2008, 11:02 AM

I think this search engine is still beta version, so it is proper so many bugs there. Wait it till full version..

chatmasta · 07-28-2008, 11:27 AM

gay - Google Search

Cuil ranks #3 after only getting a link from this thread.

xmcp123 · 07-28-2008, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chatmasta

gay - Google Search

Cuil ranks #3 after only getting a link from this thread.

Go go gadget parasite!

Volume10 · 07-28-2008, 11:48 AM

very, super GAY

nachoninja · 07-28-2008, 12:41 PM

not cuil

get it?

it's a play on words

-Matt- · 07-28-2008, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Virus

Wanna have a Laugh ? Cuil is such a shame.

I'm not getting that. For gay webmaster forum, there are over 7 mil results and WF ranks there.

I was getting this last night, too.

acemenace · 07-28-2008, 04:11 PM

I think this SE will kill Google.

Bofu2U · 07-28-2008, 10:37 PM

None of my sites are in there, even with ~500K results in G.

$5 Submissions · 07-29-2008, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yevlesh

Another pointless attempt at beating Google. Did they ever bother testing their own search engine? The relevancy is horibble and the interface isn't much better.

Plus the servers are swamped.

Anyway, the founders' Google background was good for a quick $33 million from venture capital firms.

Stanley · 07-29-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 Submissions

Plus the servers are swamped.

Anyway, the founders' Google background was good for a quick $33 million from venture capital firms.

I wonder how many more rounds of financing they're going to go through before calling it quits.

fabian1 · 07-29-2008, 10:00 PM

I received some visits from cuil already.

Red_Virus · 07-30-2008, 01:24 PM

How Cuil Is The SEO Industry?
have a nice laugh.

emp · 07-30-2008, 02:24 PM

From a quality standpoint, the results suck sweaty gay balls.

::emp::

HarveyJ · 07-30-2008, 07:40 PM

I've been fooling around with Cuil since Saturday.
I agree on the results sucking a lot, but then I also noticed a few things

Search terms that have a .com or other TLD domain that IS THE SEARCH TERM may not make it to first place - This sucks a lot, but if your domain is all about marketing a product, it may actually be less relevant to what people are actually looking for (be honest here). As such, it may prove more useful to some people
A very large number of returns for me were old domains, and usually from the academic (not necessarily .edu) or social spheres (and I don't mean blogs or social-media sites) of the net - I pulled a lot of academic papers, a lot of 3+ year old forums and even sources like QDB. Perhaps the Cuil algorithm is designed more to look for information it trusts as being established informational content, rather than information pertaining to commerce?
Converesly, I found very few sites based on commerce - Is Cuil attempting to be an information specific search engine that does not favour, or even disfavours, commercial activity?
One specific site I know to be the only one of its kind in Aus and was the .com.au of the search term appeared down the bottom, whilst other sites, including ones from academics, got higher results.
It appears to ignore PR value of links, and focused more on domain age and number of links. Probably make it easier to game, until they tweak that.
There is no geo-specific favouring in results

I had a few more points that were sort of light-bulb moments for me, but I've forgotten them. I'll write them down when they come back to me.

digga121 · 08-04-2008, 11:44 AM

dam, they should of stayed at google

xmcp123 · 08-04-2008, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarveyJ

I've been fooling around with Cuil since Saturday.

It appears to ignore PR value of links, and focused more on domain age and number of links. Probably make it easier to game, until they tweak that.

Might that be because PR is an internal measurement specific to Google that Cuil can't access? and that it's based around domain age and number of links?

coglethorpe · 08-04-2008, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmcp123

[/list]Might that be because PR is an internal measurement specific to Google that Cuil can't access?

I think indeed it might be and that PageRank(tm) is the key patent that got Google going and what others have tried to work around for years.

HarveyJ · 08-05-2008, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmcp123

[/list]Might that be because PR is an internal measurement specific to Google that Cuil can't access? and that it's based around domain age and number of links?

Figures as much... but having been people that worked on parts of Google's algo, you'd think they'd maybe create something similar (yet different enough to avoid patent infringement).
So I guess they're making their own new algo because Google gets pretty relevant results... and Cuil does not...

nmwando · 08-07-2008, 04:22 PM

So much hating, these guys are just a couple of weeks old . Every google drinking, ppc loving mofo are hating on these guys. Come on realistically Google didn't own 70 of the search revenue overnight and for these guys to start up the way they did, kudos to them. They have along way to go but its always nice to see that theres someone out there willing to kick some ass.

John · 08-07-2008, 06:14 PM

where do the pictures next to the results come from?

ninjacluster · 08-16-2008, 05:13 PM

I like Googles vertical system better. I dont like looking at the whole screen to find results.

07-28-2008, 01:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
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07-28-2008, 01:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
yevlesh Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 168 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Another pointless attempt at beating Google. Did they ever bother testing their own search engine? The relevancy is horibble and the interface isn't much better. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-28-2008, 02:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
RuDeDoGg Austin Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,082 iTrader: 11 / 100%	sucks.. in no particular order: 1. I think the index data is bullshit, I am getting like 4 pages of results for decent terms 2. the interface is pretty gay 3. the results page totally sucks giant donkey dick, in a lot of ways 4. Yeah the relevancy is terrible.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

07-28-2008, 03:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
productionhead Hard Body LLC Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,147 iTrader: 5 / 86%	Horrible search engine with unpronounceable name that makes my tongue hurt and their index data is OLD. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-28-2008, 03:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
xmcp123 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Not Louisiana Posts: 3,947 iTrader: 3 / 100%	I do not rank for shady seo, and therefore put in on the failboat. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

07-28-2008, 09:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
Proof Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 99 iTrader: 0 / 0%	The server is down now...and contrary to claims that they have the biggest index (press release featured on mashable) 3 of my sites that are highly ranked (serps, compete.com etc) fail to show up in their index at all. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-28-2008, 09:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
Red_Virus Support: +1(347) 417-5786 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,267 iTrader: 731 / 100%	Just checked it when it made it to the top 50 on the Google Trends, some may call it as the next Google Killer, But the engine is really sloppy and gay. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ I am back!

07-28-2008, 10:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
xecutech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 360 iTrader: 4 / 100%	Not impressed with it at all. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ v2x communication

07-28-2008, 10:54 AM	#12 (permalink)
Red_Virus Support: +1(347) 417-5786 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,267 iTrader: 731 / 100%	Wanna have a Laugh ? Cuil is such a shame. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-28-2008, 11:02 AM	#13 (permalink)
Razeen Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 18 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I think this search engine is still beta version, so it is proper so many bugs there. Wait it till full version.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-28-2008, 11:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
chatmasta Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NH, Connecticut Posts: 2,441 iTrader: 23 / 100%	gay - Google Search Cuil ranks #3 after only getting a link from this thread. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ $$ AFFILIATE PROGRAM PAYING 50% COMMISSION $$ PM me if you are interested. Looking for service providers. Seriously, no bullshit. PM me with any questions.

07-28-2008, 11:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
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07-28-2008, 12:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
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07-28-2008, 04:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
acemenace Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,482 iTrader: 3 / 100%	I think this SE will kill Google. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-28-2008, 10:37 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bofu2U Automation Specialist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baltimore, Murdaland Posts: 8,293 iTrader: 78 / 100%	None of my sites are in there, even with ~500K results in G. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Read This About The Penguin Update Contempt / Business Caffeine

07-29-2008, 10:00 PM	#23 (permalink)
fabian1 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 319 iTrader: 49 / 100%	re I received some visits from cuil already. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-30-2008, 01:24 PM	#24 (permalink)
Red_Virus Support: +1(347) 417-5786 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,267 iTrader: 731 / 100%	How Cuil Is The SEO Industry? have a nice laugh. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ I am back!

07-30-2008, 02:24 PM	#25 (permalink)
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07-30-2008, 07:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
HarveyJ He is - THE CACTUS! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne - Not the one in Florida Posts: 3,906 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I've been fooling around with Cuil since Saturday. I agree on the results sucking a lot, but then I also noticed a few things Search terms that have a .com or other TLD domain that IS THE SEARCH TERM may not make it to first place - This sucks a lot, but if your domain is all about marketing a product, it may actually be less relevant to what people are actually looking for (be honest here). As such, it may prove more useful to some people A very large number of returns for me were old domains, and usually from the academic (not necessarily .edu) or social spheres (and I don't mean blogs or social-media sites) of the net - I pulled a lot of academic papers, a lot of 3+ year old forums and even sources like QDB. Perhaps the Cuil algorithm is designed more to look for information it trusts as being established informational content, rather than information pertaining to commerce? Converesly, I found very few sites based on commerce - Is Cuil attempting to be an information specific search engine that does not favour, or even disfavours, commercial activity? One specific site I know to be the only one of its kind in Aus and was the .com.au of the search term appeared down the bottom, whilst other sites, including ones from academics, got higher results. It appears to ignore PR value of links, and focused more on domain age and number of links. Probably make it easier to game, until they tweak that. There is no geo-specific favouring in results I had a few more points that were sort of light-bulb moments for me, but I've forgotten them. I'll write them down when they come back to me. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ After 10,000 years I'm free!

08-04-2008, 11:44 AM	#27 (permalink)
digga121 ajaxking Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 723 iTrader: 26 / 100%	dam, they should of stayed at google Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Need Followers? Read Latest Review Looking for Custom Wordpress Theme (+HTML5)? Go Here! Get Twitter Followers

08-07-2008, 04:22 PM	#31 (permalink)
nmwando Credworthy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: raleigh Posts: 760 iTrader: 2 / 100%	So much hating, these guys are just a couple of weeks old . Every google drinking, ppc loving mofo are hating on these guys. Come on realistically Google didn't own 70 of the search revenue overnight and for these guys to start up the way they did, kudos to them. They have along way to go but its always nice to see that theres someone out there willing to kick some ass. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-07-2008, 06:14 PM	#32 (permalink)
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08-16-2008, 05:13 PM	#33 (permalink)
ninjacluster Superuser Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 18 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I like Googles vertical system better. I dont like looking at the whole screen to find results. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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