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Old 08-06-2008, 03:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Sweet Say hello to the i-Patriot Act

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Amazing revelations have emerged concerning already existing government plans to overhaul the way the internet functions in order to apply much greater restrictions and control over the web.

Lawrence Lessig, a respected Law Professor from Stanford University told an audience at this years Fortune’s Brainstorm Tech conference in Half Moon Bay, California, that “There’s going to be an i-9/11 event” which will act as a catalyst for a radical reworking of the law pertaining to the internet.

Lessig also revealed that he had learned, during a dinner with former government Counter Terrorism Czar Richard Clarke, that there is already in existence a cyber equivalent of the Patriot Act, an “i-Patriot Act” if you will, and that the Justice Department is waiting for a cyber terrorism event in order to implement its provisions.....
Source: Internet Censorship is On it's Way. The i-Patriot Act - Young Famous and Fashionable
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Old 08-06-2008, 03:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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just watched the youtube clip, if this happens goodbye America
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Old 08-06-2008, 03:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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no shit.. I'm leaving the country sometime in the next decade for sure. It just keeps getting worse. Yay let's give up all our freedoms so we can be safe. yea.
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Old 08-06-2008, 03:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'd love to see the government censor me. Looks like I'll end up selling more encryption software...
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Old 08-06-2008, 04:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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fuck GWB and fuck our government. Bunch of no talent ass clowns.
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Put your money where your mouth is: Electronic Frontier Foundation | Defending Freedom in the Digital World

Moving outside the country won't change a thing. Guess where ICANN and ARIN are located?
The Internet is a global market, and if the US is locked down the same will happen in other countries.
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Put your money where your mouth is: Electronic Frontier Foundation | Defending Freedom in the Digital World

Moving outside the country won't change a thing. Guess where ICANN and ARIN are located?
The Internet is a global market, and if the US is locked down the same will happen in other countries.
well shit, there goes my italy plans
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I really can't say that I'm terribly surprised. But leaving the country won't help. All the old style "write your congressman and representative" stuff will help, but it is an unending battle to keep the US government out of things they have no business in.

Can you imagine how threating the Internet is to a 70+ year old politician like McCain who grew up asking the phone operator to connect him to 'John or Jane Doe' ? No control or even accountability that they can see.

They know there is money in it; and know they must follow the money, but they would love to slap a 'classified - need to know only' stamp on the whole damn thing.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I'll look into this legislation later, but what does it mean in practical terms?

What can't I do? Examples?
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Old 08-08-2008, 02:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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no shit.. I'm leaving the country sometime in the next decade for sure. It just keeps getting worse. Yay let's give up all our freedoms so we can be safe. yea.
from the looks of things, you don't have a decade.
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Old 08-08-2008, 03:55 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The American Gov. are nothing but fucking DOGS and they will stop at fucking nothing to have complete control over everything.

FUCK THEM!
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:03 AM   #14 (permalink)
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This is complete bullshit.

Land of the free my ass.
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:32 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You know in the old days if they did this all the domainers and website owners would sue the living shit out of whoever was responsible.

But nowadays the stupid govt would give immunity to ICANN, Internet2, the US Govt and everyone else involved like they did with the telecomm FISA bill.

We need to hammer on the FISA bill and get someone to challenge its constitutionality.
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fuck GWB and fuck our government. Bunch of no talent ass clowns.
Look, I hate GWB just as much as the next guy. But if you really think that Bush was the REAL power behind the first patriot act ... or this new thing ... you don't understand how much of a puppet the guy is.

I'd bet almost anything that the first bill was written before Bush took office ... and that Clinton had nothing to do with it.
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Things like the Patriot Act sit around in someone's desk draw waiting for shit like 9/11 to happen, so they can pull it out.
Damn, you think they could even TYPE that damn thing in the 20days between September 11th and it passing on October 1st?

The biggest issue with this bill is that it will have global repercussions, which it damn well shouldn't.
The internet is a global network, yet crap like this and the Snowe bill have the power to reach across the world.
As a non US citizen, as someone that is HAPPILY citizen of another 1st world country, I really resent that sort of power grab. I have enough crap to deal with my own Gov wanting to install ISP level filters to stop me looking at X rated porn because it's illegal in every state (yet the Australian Capitol Territory, where the federal government sits, it's 100% legal... funny that)
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