Facebook Wins $873M Spam Suit - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

Jon · 11-25-2008, 02:21 PM

This is pretty unreal.. But true..

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ADOTAS — A Spam judge has whacked a spammer for hacking into Facebook and sending sexually explicit messages to the social network’s members.

Friday, federal Judge Jeremy Fogel awarded Facebook $873 million in damages against Adam Guerbuez and Atlantis Blue Capital. According to the social network, it is the largest award ever under the Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing Act (CAN-SPAM).

According to Max Kelly, Facebook’s director of security, the company doesn’t expect to ever collect the money but believes it will be a powerful deterent to anyone who messes with the company or its users.

“Everyone who participates constructively in Facebook should feel confident that we are fighting hard to protect you against spam and other online nuisances,” Kelly blogs. “We will continue to invest in this area by improving our technical safeguards and devoting significant resources to finding, exposing and prosecuting the sources of spam attacks.”

In May, Myspace won a $230 million spamming judgement against notorious spammer Sanford Wallace and his partner Walter Rines.

DavidL · 11-25-2008, 02:23 PM

Jeesh, How in the world do you justify $873/mill in damages? Thats crazy! But Iḿ sure if it was me I would find one way or another to get as much as I can to.

productionhead · 11-25-2008, 07:04 PM

prolly not even going to recover 1% of that

the $873M is justified because the number is set so high they are going to get as much of ABC's assets as they can

xentech · 11-26-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by productionhead

prolly not even going to recover 1% of that

the $873M is justified because the number is set so high they are going to get as much of ABC's assets as they can

What do you mean by 'recover'?

elime · 11-26-2008, 09:34 AM

Here's my question about all these spammers that get busted: why are they so stupid?

Specifically, why would they think it's safe to operate a "project" like this from their home countries (US, Canada in this case)?

It's like holding up a huge sign with "PLEASE RAPE ME" written on it.

I don't endorse what they do, but jesus fucking H.

It's not exactly rocket science to think to yourself, "Hmm, maybe I should hide my tracks when engaging in this highly illegal activity."

Nahhhhhh, just do it, everything will be coooool maaann.

glowleaf · 11-26-2008, 09:43 AM

Elime, computer forensics guys have big balls too. They know the exact same stuff spammers and scammers do, they just apply them to different situations. It is not that easy to hide your tracks. In the end, the only true protection you have is if your country does not give a shit and tells them to fuck off.

Bofu2U · 11-26-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by glowleaf

Elime, computer forensics guys have big balls too. They know the exact same stuff spammers and scammers do, they just apply them to different situations. It is not that easy to hide your tracks. In the end, the only true protection you have is if your country does not give a shit and tells them to fuck off.

Takes a hacker to stop a hacker

mediasup · 11-26-2008, 11:55 AM

Dude if you wanna spam move to panama for 6 months set up your servers and domains there as well as your bank accounts and have fun. Lots of hot girls down there but again just hear-say

MaxSteve · 11-26-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elime

Here's my question about all these spammers that get busted: why are they so stupid?

Specifically, why would they think it's safe to operate a "project" like this from their home countries (US, Canada in this case)?

It's like holding up a huge sign with "PLEASE RAPE ME" written on it.

I don't endorse what they do, but jesus fucking H.

It's not exactly rocket science to think to yourself, "Hmm, maybe I should hide my tracks when engaging in this highly illegal activity."

Nahhhhhh, just do it, everything will be coooool maaann.

I'd have to say that greed does a very good job of clouding judgement.

Someone who doesn't get caught after hacking a few accounts and making a few bucks spends most of their time thinking about all the money they'll have if they significantly ramp up their activities, instead of thinking about covering their tracks.

Not only that, I'm sure that when they are small time and are going unnoticed, they develop feelings of invincibility and arrogance and figure there's NO way they'll get caught.

xmcp123 · 11-26-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by elime

Here's my question about all these spammers that get busted: why are they so stupid?

Specifically, why would they think it's safe to operate a "project" like this from their home countries (US, Canada in this case)?

It's like holding up a huge sign with "PLEASE RAPE ME" written on it.

I don't endorse what they do, but jesus fucking H.

It's not exactly rocket science to think to yourself, "Hmm, maybe I should hide my tracks when engaging in this highly illegal activity."

Nahhhhhh, just do it, everything will be coooool maaann.

Spoken like someone who doesn't understand money trails and lawyers.

$5 Submissions · 11-27-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mediasup

Dude if you wanna spam move to panama for 6 months set up your servers and domains there as well as your bank accounts and have fun. Lots of hot girls down there but again just hear-say

They should change the name of some parts of Panama city to "Mailer Haven"

$5 Submissions · 11-27-2008, 03:33 PM

The judgment is huge because it's a default judgment, if I am not mistaken. The defendant didn't put up a fight.

dschus · 11-28-2008, 07:53 PM

Panama? Ha, I'd go to the fuckin' moon.

productionhead · 11-29-2008, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by xentech

What do you mean by 'recover'?

facebook sued for a loss, so they are trying to recover what they think they lost

for example, myspace thinks (or values) sending one spam message through their messaging system is $100,000 worth of damage done to them

DumDum · 12-01-2008, 02:55 PM

OMG!!!
Now that's one spammer in some deep shit!

11-25-2008, 02:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
DavidL Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Port Richey, Florida Posts: 115 iTrader: (0)	Jeesh, How in the world do you justify $873/mill in damages? Thats crazy! But Iḿ sure if it was me I would find one way or another to get as much as I can to. __________________ -Dave

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elime Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 772 iTrader: (6)	Here's my question about all these spammers that get busted: why are they so stupid? Specifically, why would they think it's safe to operate a "project" like this from their home countries (US, Canada in this case)? It's like holding up a huge sign with "PLEASE RAPE ME" written on it. I don't endorse what they do, but jesus fucking H. It's not exactly rocket science to think to yourself, "Hmm, maybe I should hide my tracks when engaging in this highly illegal activity." Nahhhhhh, just do it, everything will be coooool maaann. __________________ Hosting: Hostgator ¤ Domains: Namecheap \| Moniker

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11-25-2008, 07:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
productionhead pay per stroke Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,092 iTrader: (3)	prolly not even going to recover 1% of that the $873M is justified because the number is set so high they are going to get as much of ABC's assets as they can

11-26-2008, 11:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
mediasup Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 138 iTrader: (0)	Dude if you wanna spam move to panama for 6 months set up your servers and domains there as well as your bank accounts and have fun. Lots of hot girls down there but again just hear-say

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DumDum Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 130 iTrader: (2)	OMG!!! Now that's one spammer in some deep shit! __________________ SEO specialist