Facebook Wins $873M Spam Suit - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

Jon · 11-25-2008, 01:21 PM

This is pretty unreal.. But true..

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ADOTAS — A Spam judge has whacked a spammer for hacking into Facebook and sending sexually explicit messages to the social network’s members.

Friday, federal Judge Jeremy Fogel awarded Facebook $873 million in damages against Adam Guerbuez and Atlantis Blue Capital. According to the social network, it is the largest award ever under the Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing Act (CAN-SPAM).

According to Max Kelly, Facebook’s director of security, the company doesn’t expect to ever collect the money but believes it will be a powerful deterent to anyone who messes with the company or its users.

“Everyone who participates constructively in Facebook should feel confident that we are fighting hard to protect you against spam and other online nuisances,” Kelly blogs. “We will continue to invest in this area by improving our technical safeguards and devoting significant resources to finding, exposing and prosecuting the sources of spam attacks.”

In May, Myspace won a $230 million spamming judgement against notorious spammer Sanford Wallace and his partner Walter Rines.

DavidL · 11-25-2008, 01:23 PM

Jeesh, How in the world do you justify $873/mill in damages? Thats crazy! But Iḿ sure if it was me I would find one way or another to get as much as I can to.

productionhead · 11-25-2008, 06:04 PM

prolly not even going to recover 1% of that

the $873M is justified because the number is set so high they are going to get as much of ABC's assets as they can

xentech · 11-26-2008, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by productionhead

prolly not even going to recover 1% of that

the $873M is justified because the number is set so high they are going to get as much of ABC's assets as they can

What do you mean by 'recover'?

elime · 11-26-2008, 08:34 AM

Here's my question about all these spammers that get busted: why are they so stupid?

Specifically, why would they think it's safe to operate a "project" like this from their home countries (US, Canada in this case)?

It's like holding up a huge sign with "PLEASE RAPE ME" written on it.

I don't endorse what they do, but jesus fucking H.

It's not exactly rocket science to think to yourself, "Hmm, maybe I should hide my tracks when engaging in this highly illegal activity."

Nahhhhhh, just do it, everything will be coooool maaann.

glowleaf · 11-26-2008, 08:43 AM

Elime, computer forensics guys have big balls too. They know the exact same stuff spammers and scammers do, they just apply them to different situations. It is not that easy to hide your tracks. In the end, the only true protection you have is if your country does not give a shit and tells them to fuck off.

Bofu2U · 11-26-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by glowleaf

Elime, computer forensics guys have big balls too. They know the exact same stuff spammers and scammers do, they just apply them to different situations. It is not that easy to hide your tracks. In the end, the only true protection you have is if your country does not give a shit and tells them to fuck off.

Takes a hacker to stop a hacker

mediasup · 11-26-2008, 10:55 AM

Dude if you wanna spam move to panama for 6 months set up your servers and domains there as well as your bank accounts and have fun. Lots of hot girls down there but again just hear-say

MaxSteve · 11-26-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by elime

Here's my question about all these spammers that get busted: why are they so stupid?

Specifically, why would they think it's safe to operate a "project" like this from their home countries (US, Canada in this case)?

It's like holding up a huge sign with "PLEASE RAPE ME" written on it.

I don't endorse what they do, but jesus fucking H.

It's not exactly rocket science to think to yourself, "Hmm, maybe I should hide my tracks when engaging in this highly illegal activity."

Nahhhhhh, just do it, everything will be coooool maaann.

I'd have to say that greed does a very good job of clouding judgement.

Someone who doesn't get caught after hacking a few accounts and making a few bucks spends most of their time thinking about all the money they'll have if they significantly ramp up their activities, instead of thinking about covering their tracks.

Not only that, I'm sure that when they are small time and are going unnoticed, they develop feelings of invincibility and arrogance and figure there's NO way they'll get caught.

xmcp123 · 11-26-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by elime

Here's my question about all these spammers that get busted: why are they so stupid?

Specifically, why would they think it's safe to operate a "project" like this from their home countries (US, Canada in this case)?

It's like holding up a huge sign with "PLEASE RAPE ME" written on it.

I don't endorse what they do, but jesus fucking H.

It's not exactly rocket science to think to yourself, "Hmm, maybe I should hide my tracks when engaging in this highly illegal activity."

Nahhhhhh, just do it, everything will be coooool maaann.

Spoken like someone who doesn't understand money trails and lawyers.

$5 Submissions · 11-27-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mediasup

Dude if you wanna spam move to panama for 6 months set up your servers and domains there as well as your bank accounts and have fun. Lots of hot girls down there but again just hear-say

They should change the name of some parts of Panama city to "Mailer Haven"

$5 Submissions · 11-27-2008, 02:33 PM

The judgment is huge because it's a default judgment, if I am not mistaken. The defendant didn't put up a fight.

dschus · 11-28-2008, 06:53 PM

Panama? Ha, I'd go to the fuckin' moon.

productionhead · 11-29-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by xentech

What do you mean by 'recover'?

facebook sued for a loss, so they are trying to recover what they think they lost

for example, myspace thinks (or values) sending one spam message through their messaging system is $100,000 worth of damage done to them

DumDum · 12-01-2008, 01:55 PM

OMG!!!
Now that's one spammer in some deep shit!

hehtaky · 12-09-2008, 08:50 AM

i agree that is a ridiculous amount, i guarantee they didnt make 25% of that spamming the site.

im wondering why fb didnt go after the advertiser for letting them do it instead of the ones who wrote the apps and carried it out? must have been alot of traffic to justify 900 million fucking dollars imo the advertises must have been a little curious as to where all of it was coming from.

i mean fuck anyone with a recaptcha ocr, a boatload of proxies and knowledge of a programming language could have done this. the advertiser is to blame! haha. cmon give these guys some sympathy they are just trying to make a buck- porn was probably the wrong way to do it though and wouldnt look exactly innocent to the law.

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Originally Posted by elime

Here's my question about all these spammers that get busted: why are they so stupid?

Specifically, why would they think it's safe to operate a "project" like this from their home countries (US, Canada in this case)?

It's like holding up a huge sign with "PLEASE RAPE ME" written on it.

I don't endorse what they do, but jesus fucking H.

It's not exactly rocket science to think to yourself, "Hmm, maybe I should hide my tracks when engaging in this highly illegal activity."

Nahhhhhh, just do it, everything will be coooool maaann.

you really dont understand how social works, at all.

11-25-2008, 01:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
DavidL Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Jeesh, How in the world do you justify $873/mill in damages? Thats crazy! But Iḿ sure if it was me I would find one way or another to get as much as I can to. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ -Dave Got allot of leftover landing page domains? Park them at Parked.com and earn $$ Revenue $$ from your leftover traffic.

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productionhead Hard Body LLC Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,147 iTrader: 5 / 86%	prolly not even going to recover 1% of that the $873M is justified because the number is set so high they are going to get as much of ABC's assets as they can Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-26-2008, 08:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
elime Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 876 iTrader: 8 / 100%	Here's my question about all these spammers that get busted: why are they so stupid? Specifically, why would they think it's safe to operate a "project" like this from their home countries (US, Canada in this case)? It's like holding up a huge sign with "PLEASE RAPE ME" written on it. I don't endorse what they do, but jesus fucking H. It's not exactly rocket science to think to yourself, "Hmm, maybe I should hide my tracks when engaging in this highly illegal activity." Nahhhhhh, just do it, everything will be coooool maaann. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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glowleaf My head annoys people Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,124 iTrader: 3 / 100%	Elime, computer forensics guys have big balls too. They know the exact same stuff spammers and scammers do, they just apply them to different situations. It is not that easy to hide your tracks. In the end, the only true protection you have is if your country does not give a shit and tells them to fuck off. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ The unofficial gallery of Wickedfire Boobs. Must see! http://www.wickedfire.com/images/icons/nsfw.gif Affiliate marketing blog

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mediasup Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 632 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Dude if you wanna spam move to panama for 6 months set up your servers and domains there as well as your bank accounts and have fun. Lots of hot girls down there but again just hear-say Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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$5 Submissions Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Global Posts: 1,923 iTrader: 4 / 100%	The judgment is huge because it's a default judgment, if I am not mistaken. The defendant didn't put up a fight. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Income producing sites for sale

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dschus Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South Dakota Posts: 532 iTrader: 7 / 100%	Panama? Ha, I'd go to the fuckin' moon. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ fuck you. pay me.

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DumDum ASS ASS IN Join Date: May 2008 Location: En Pizda Posts: 1,173 iTrader: 14 / 100%	OMG!!! Now that's one spammer in some deep shit! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

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