nmwando

Some report about epn and ebay.
http://www.semj.org/documents/SEMJ_ebay_vol2.pdf

riddarhusetgal

reading...

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turbolapp

Great find. Still Reading it. I would like to say that so many people have groaned and lamented about the changes of epn through the last year (I guess I would too if I had gotten kicked) but what they did was very smart for their bottom line.

From the abstract:

Edit: Just finished. What a great abstract. I was interested because it was primarily about EPN but it's really meant for any Advertiser or Network that participates in an Affiliate program, as well as Affiliates that are looking toward the future of their business practices.

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_poto_

interesting... I wonder if anybody in the adult sector is smart enough to pick up on this... usually just the whales get rewarded with higher payouts... those of us that have small niche or micro-niche targeted sites with low volumes of reasonably well converting traffic usually don't get any payout bumps... be neat if that changed, but I doubt that'll happen any time soon...

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JustLloyd

Good read. +1

nmwando

Turbo did you get your account back.
I wish networks would implement this with some sort of subscribtion model involved.
But they are interested in volume more than quality.

Or i may be getting something wrong

Super-Affiliate

reading....will post mine feedback in evening..

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richd63

Very interesting read that opens up more windows of opportunities. Awesome!

kingofsp

Even though it's unrealistic and will never happen, I would really like it if ACRU payment calculations could be done at the campaign level, and not across your whole account.

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turbolapp

It's funny you should say that. I have separated out my campaigns and, for many, it's just one campaign per account. But before this, they were all running together. My ACRU just went from 28 (as they were grouped) to 40 on the account that it's only running by it's self.

That being said, I'm sure they average it all together. So if you still have everything running on one account just get rid of your shit traffic and you'll probably increase your ACRU.

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nmwando

turbo, how about this - if you are sending such good quality traffic to ebay how about turning around and fucking them up.
Find out using excel which items are converting sooo well.
Find out on alibaba.com how much they are selling for or get on craigslist everywhere opting to buy those items from the sellers for half price.
Use that quality traffic to sell the items yourself. I am just about to do that with iphones. They fucked me over when i was sending them 10 buyers a month . Guess what i can make close to an extra 3k a month just handling all the transactions myself.
Being an affiliate is not all fine and dandy cause you dont control jack shit.
Cheers.

Andrew Scherer

I've also deactivated campaigns where I was giving them a ton of clicks and not doing much in terms of revenue.

Not only will it improve quality score but I don't want my account banned because I'm making a pretty penny with them right now..

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barman

good shit bump

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turbolapp

unfortunately I think the thread was not titled appropriately and so it's not getting as much attention as it should.

nmwando, do you mind if I retitled the thread to something like : "Must-Read Report About EPN" ?

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kingofsp

Yeah it surprises me when people tell me that they don't break all their traffic down by campaign. Seems like valuable info to me. But yeah, I plan to pull the plug on the shitty traffic as soon as the legitimate traffic earnings make it obsolete.

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nmwando

Turbo.. please rename this post as you wish.

Advertisers seem to do whatever the fuck they want and affiliates continously get fucked over and over and over.
Ebay is currently doing this right now.. i own an unlocked iphones website that gets very steady type in traffic. I am talking about 8 hits a day type in.
Think about this, that traffic is worth 400 per visit, if i monetise it right. Sure i send ebay some traffic that someone buys some crappy headphone for 7 bucks today but waits for 3 weeks and buys an iphone later.
For all this i get about 40 bucks rev share and a fucking buck from ebay cause i dont send high quality traffic.
People are fucking scared and wont buy 400 dollar items everyday unless its in dec, so fuck yeah i should be compensated.
This is me last year typing this - the new me buys iphones cheap on craigslist , unlocks them for free (its easy) and sells them on my site earning about 80 to 100 profit from each item. If i sell 40 a month ...... 40*70 = 2800 give or take. This is better than dealing with some of this cpa crap that we sometimes put ourselves through.
Cash money banging my paypal account like the salvation army drum.
Cheers.

Boomstick

Good for you. Now scale that and just wait till you start having to deal with all the bullshit customer service. Oh, and good luck going on vacation cause your ass needs to be fulfilling orders every day. Wait, you can hire someone for that, but then you'd really have some bullshit to deal with.

Better to take your $40 and find some niches with better quality traffic.


Edit: Good article though, nice find.

Andrew Scherer

Are you high...?

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Boomstick

Never be afraid of customer service unless you are trying to push acai berries. lol
The truth is this if you unlock an iphone and sell it to someone, expect questions if that iphone isnt working. I have sold a couple and its painless if you deliver a damn good product. I might have this wrong but i am sure there have been rebill programs available for a while i.e free credit report. Yet you dont hear complaints coming from them - why because they provide a service to people and make sure they are upfront about what they are doing, complete with customer service and actual adresses and emails for people to reach them.
I dont think the road to riches is through being an affiliate, sure you can make money here and there and own a niche for 4 years... and then what.
Cheers
Dealing with people is not something i am afraid of, heck i welcome it. I also dont mind not having to deal with b.s from affiliate companies.

nmwando

If i monetise the traffic right. theres never a chance you will get 100 ctr on any traffic you get.
If, if if if if if if i monetise it right. I would have to be a fucking genius to get that done.
If you are pushing grant offers then the per click traffic is worth about 25 bucks per Cpa. Thats what i mean, not that i expect to make 400 bucks for every visitor, but the type in visitors especially are visiting a website where the items dont sell for anything less than 400 bucks.
Comprende.. lol