Man sues Google over AdSense cancellation, wins! - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

coglethorpe · 03-06-2009, 10:37 AM

The little guy who fought back:

Aaron Greenspan: Why I Sued Google (and Won)

So he got some of his AdCents back, 72,100 cents, to be exact. But the story exposes the strange world that is Google's advertising empire.

theNOTO · 03-06-2009, 11:36 AM

Cool story. Lots of time invested for $700 though.

frequentdriver · 03-06-2009, 11:42 AM

I enjoyed reading the story. I did have to laugh when google's rep said that google had already refunded the money to its advertisers. I don't believe one word of that statement.

More people need to do this type of stuff to keep google honest.

kingofsp · 03-06-2009, 11:50 AM

Google is just lucky they didn't have to face Chi-city in court.

kblessinggr · 03-06-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

"But it's not fair!" Google's paralegal protested. "What if everyone whose account was canceled sued Google?"

:P I'd need to see a court transcript to believe that might have been said (as that). And why is a paralegal even using the term "fair"?

ranzuken · 03-06-2009, 03:13 PM

Lol I like how something on one forum can get passed on to another forum such as this news. =D

mediasup · 03-06-2009, 03:24 PM

Someone needs to bring a class action lawsuit

ecigarette · 03-07-2009, 05:07 PM

I agree with the idea of a class action lawsuit. Imagine if all the little guys banded together. It would be a mob of angry geeks.

tekkiegurl · 03-11-2009, 06:46 AM

congratz to the man he sure have a lot money after winning a case like that

pandaexpress · 03-12-2009, 03:13 PM

nice find on the article

HarveyJ · 03-15-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tekkiegurl

congratz to the man he sure have a lot money after winning a case like that

Errr, no... If you botheredto read the article, it's over roughly $700.

He'd have done this in small claims court, where you don't get lawyers or appeals. You get Judge Judy, and similarly bitter judges who never made a name for themselves, are usually senior citizens that don't understand tech, and generally side with the complainant.

This Aaron guy most likely went through the effort of all this to get some press coverage as well, because people love an underdog.

midnight_focus · 03-18-2009, 12:37 PM

I don't believe this story, if you see the tos of adsense you can see that google can cancel any account for any reason without having to clarify for the user

sean3 · 03-18-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by midnight_focus

I don't believe this story, if you see the tos of adsense you can see that google can cancel any account for any reason without having to clarify for the user

thats is the point by Which he won the case, Google cannot cancel his account just because he had blue eyes

kingofsp · 03-18-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by midnight_focus

I don't believe this story, if you see the tos of adsense you can see that google can cancel any account for any reason without having to clarify for the user

SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER

FortressDewey · 03-18-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by midnight_focus

I don't believe this story, if you see the tos of adsense you can see that google can cancel any account for any reason without having to clarify for the user

The judge did say their needed to be a reason, not just b/c their TOS said so...also, it is highly possible a paralegal used "fair" as she is not used to arguing in court.

Also, i think it's great that google got a very very small slap on the wrist....

One other food for thought....what does Google refunding Adwords advertisers have to do with Adsense? WTF?

auroinfo · 03-19-2009, 12:05 AM

Great post by the man about his experience. I hope this will bring some change in google.

midnight_focus · 03-19-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sean3

thats is the point by Which he won the case, Google cannot cancel his account just because he had blue eyes

Yea they can this TOS are the contract between google and the user, let's say you are renting a house from me and we wrote in the contract that "I can cancel this contract any time without your agreement" and we both signed for this the next day I did cancel the contract can you sue me!!!

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Originally Posted by FortressDewey

One other food for thought....what does Google refunding Adwords advertisers have to do with Adsense? WTF?

Adsense earning based on adwords, Adwords are the advertisers without them your adsense ads will show nothing

GetYourWriter · 03-20-2009, 01:10 AM

This is a pretty cool story, but I definitely don't believe all of it. I think it was juiced up in order to get some extra publicity. A contract is a contract, but the thing that puzzles me is that unless you get a digital signature, is the contract valid?

jewin · 03-31-2009, 01:47 AM

Given how much this guy was spending, he wasted allot of time and money trying to get back at Google. Why waste your time over that when there are other PPC venues and many, many other ways to promote your site?

QAT-Mirza · 04-01-2009, 04:51 PM

Exactly , that what i wanted to say... But still good done with google.

ldsmedia · 04-02-2009, 11:18 AM

Just one clarification. It is my understanding that if a contract is made that is contrary to law, it is not a valid contract. If someone puts up a sign that says they are not liable for injuries incurred at their store, or something similar to that, it doesn't negate their liability. Remember if you can get your case in front of a jury they are likely to decide by what they think is right and not the letter of the law.

datingloot.com · 04-03-2009, 11:15 PM

about fucking time. im amazed they havent got hit with a massive class action about this yet.

jonnyboy · 05-04-2009, 07:44 AM

I am shocked they are not suit till now.

dably · 05-04-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midnight_focus

Yea they can this TOS are the contract between google and the user, let's say you are renting a house from me and we wrote in the contract that "I can cancel this contract any time without your agreement" and we both signed for this the next day I did cancel the contract can you sue me!!!

Adsense earning based on adwords, Adwords are the advertisers without them your adsense ads will show nothing

I think you picked a bad example landlord tenant laws in most jurisdictions would generally give the tenant XX days to leave regardless of what the lease says. In a similar manner if TOS are written to strictly they can be thrown out or rather portions of them can be thrown out.

Traffic-Bug · 05-05-2009, 01:10 AM

Google has become arrogant monopoly

satanus · 05-12-2009, 09:44 AM

Good to know that there're still people with balls in this world who can stand up against corporate assholes. Google has became so arrogant with Adsense banning simply because no one try to fight for their rights...but from the other side many people say they've been banned for "no reason", where in fact they just didn't read carefully the TOS agreement...

metafever · 05-19-2009, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecigarette

I agree with the idea of a class action lawsuit. Imagine if all the little guys banded together. It would be a mob of angry geeks.

This wont happen since most people are too busy making money . . . no one is counting the coins they are leaving on the table.

benitomol · 05-27-2009, 08:57 PM

cool story...kudos to this guy. a mob of angry geeks would be something to see.

OlegBkk · 05-27-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ldsmedia

Just one clarification. It is my understanding that if a contract is made that is contrary to law, it is not a valid contract. If someone puts up a sign that says they are not liable for injuries incurred at their store, or something similar to that, it doesn't negate their liability. Remember if you can get your case in front of a jury they are likely to decide by what they think is right and not the letter of the law.

absolutely! every shop has a idiot label said "No return/refund/exchage" - well it doesn't matter what they stick. There's Consumer Protection Law, which is important.
Same for Google TOS. What is that "any reason" ? Daylight robbery

neablas · 05-28-2009, 04:55 PM

i think he should write an ebook about it. lol

Super-Affiliate · 05-31-2009, 04:54 AM

gud piece of deal

dragonheart · 05-31-2009, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coglethorpe

The little guy who fought back:

Aaron Greenspan: Why I Sued Google (and Won)

So he got some of his AdCents back, 72,100 cents, to be exact. But the story exposes the strange world that is Google's advertising empire.

Great story. Sometimes you just have to stand up and say "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore."

Good for him and I'm sure Google will now think twice before doing anything like this again....right?

DH

mailinatorm2 · 06-06-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kingofsp

Google is just lucky they didn't have to face Chi-city in court.

+1 ...who knows? Maybe one day Chi-city will, after all he earns from ads next to his videos that are served by Google.

Nated · 06-07-2009, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theNOTO

Cool story. Lots of time invested for $700 though.

Yeah, but with all this publicity I bet he got something more then that out of it. Hehe.

bb_wolfe · 06-08-2009, 02:17 PM

Remember That AdSense Publisher That Sued Google & Won? Well, He Lost

nachoninja · 06-08-2009, 03:13 PM

^^^ hahaha owned by a screenshot

mike_ccw · 06-08-2009, 03:34 PM

WTF is this then Aaron Greenspan Settles Trademark Dispute With Facebook

airforcematt · 06-08-2009, 06:52 PM

Thank God - I was getting tired of this thread - this is a fitting end to it.

HarveyJ · 06-08-2009, 08:52 PM

The flipside is that this guy became amazingly good linkbait, and has probably moved on to other projects thanks to his 15 minutes.

nachoninja · 06-11-2009, 06:12 PM

Aaron Greenspan: Why Google Bothered to Appeal a $761 Small Claims Case (and Won)

Quote:

Clearly Google's representatives were present at the trial, but I'd like to think that more than being a simply typographical error, the judge was conceding that I had a point. There is no law explicitly stating so, but there was no need for Google to behave in as draconian a manner as it did throughout the entire process of investigating the circumstances surrounding my account termination.

Quote:

The proper thing for Google to have done would have been to explain the following: "Your account was cancelled because technically one of your three web sites using AdSense broke our rules. You used 'pick a link' wording you shouldn't have, and you created a page where ads were the only links. Unfortunately, we can't pay you the money you earned from that site. What we can do is reinstate your account for the two valid sites, and set you up with an account for our other program, AdSense for Domains, that will be perfect for what you're trying to do on the third, and we look forward to helping you make money without any regulatory problems that way." Would that have been so hard?

Aaron Greenspan is an asshole

chriogenix · 06-12-2009, 04:22 PM

this is awesome

03-06-2009, 10:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
coglethorpe Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 446 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Man sues Google over AdSense cancellation, wins! The little guy who fought back: Aaron Greenspan: Why I Sued Google (and Won) So he got some of his AdCents back, 72,100 cents, to be exact. But the story exposes the strange world that is Google's advertising empire. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ I made my first real money in affiliate marketing through Azoogle Ads. Join Azoogle today and you can, too.

03-06-2009, 11:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
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03-06-2009, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
frequentdriver Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 39 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I enjoyed reading the story. I did have to laugh when google's rep said that google had already refunded the money to its advertisers. I don't believe one word of that statement. More people need to do this type of stuff to keep google honest. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-06-2009, 11:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
kingofsp WF Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,932 iTrader: 37 / 100%	Google is just lucky they didn't have to face Chi-city in court. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ W4 - Like Hуdra, but like way better.

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ranzuken Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Lol I like how something on one forum can get passed on to another forum such as this news. =D Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-06-2009, 03:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
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03-12-2009, 03:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
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03-18-2009, 12:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
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03-19-2009, 12:05 AM	#16 (permalink)
auroinfo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 125 iTrader: 6 / 100%	Great post by the man about his experience. I hope this will bring some change in google. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

03-20-2009, 01:10 AM	#18 (permalink)
GetYourWriter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Paradise Posts: 559 iTrader: 22 / 100%	This is a pretty cool story, but I definitely don't believe all of it. I think it was juiced up in order to get some extra publicity. A contract is a contract, but the thing that puzzles me is that unless you get a digital signature, is the contract valid? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Get some fresh webmaster chronic!

03-31-2009, 01:47 AM	#19 (permalink)
jewin Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 66 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Given how much this guy was spending, he wasted allot of time and money trying to get back at Google. Why waste your time over that when there are other PPC venues and many, many other ways to promote your site? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-01-2009, 04:51 PM	#20 (permalink)
QAT-Mirza Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: H~Y~D Posts: 43 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Exactly , that what i wanted to say... But still good done with google. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-02-2009, 11:18 AM	#21 (permalink)
ldsmedia Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 154 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Just one clarification. It is my understanding that if a contract is made that is contrary to law, it is not a valid contract. If someone puts up a sign that says they are not liable for injuries incurred at their store, or something similar to that, it doesn't negate their liability. Remember if you can get your case in front of a jury they are likely to decide by what they think is right and not the letter of the law. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

04-03-2009, 11:15 PM	#22 (permalink)
datingloot.com moo Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0%	about fucking time. im amazed they havent got hit with a massive class action about this yet. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ stacks on deck.

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jonnyboy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I am shocked they are not suit till now. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-05-2009, 01:10 AM	#25 (permalink)
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05-12-2009, 09:44 AM	#26 (permalink)
satanus Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 42 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Good to know that there're still people with balls in this world who can stand up against corporate assholes. Google has became so arrogant with Adsense banning simply because no one try to fight for their rights...but from the other side many people say they've been banned for "no reason", where in fact they just didn't read carefully the TOS agreement... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-27-2009, 08:57 PM	#28 (permalink)
benitomol Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 / 0%	cool story...kudos to this guy. a mob of angry geeks would be something to see. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-28-2009, 04:55 PM	#30 (permalink)
neablas Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 31 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i think he should write an ebook about it. lol Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-31-2009, 04:54 AM	#31 (permalink)
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06-08-2009, 03:13 PM	#36 (permalink)
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06-08-2009, 06:52 PM	#38 (permalink)
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06-08-2009, 08:52 PM	#39 (permalink)
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