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Location: A Dark Satanic/Green and Pleasant Land
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I just wrote my first article in a LONG ass time about this:
PHPBay: Start to Finish Tutorial | Build And Earn They don't tell you exactly, but they outline a few of the main principles:
If you're pushing quality traffic, you'll make more using this. If you push shit traffic you'll make less. Less people will be banned but you'll make dick if your traffic sucks ass. Unfortunately new people signing up get to start Sept. 1st while existing folks gotta wait until October 1st. One cool thing is that we'll hbe able to see how much we WOULD be making each day under QCP starting late August, even though the old method will be used for payment. This could be really good.... but nothing testing won't answer.
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Nice article. Certainly is gonna be an interesting change, the rev share of ads and paypal sounds good and if it's done per affiliate rather than per campaign it's gonna make me reconsider epn on some sites that get the clicks but not many sales.
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really unsure if this is going to help or hurt me at this point.. we were getting a lot of ACRU's and they were buying stuff (ebay motors products) yet ebay thinks they can just decide to not pay people what they are worth based on their bullshit top secret algorithms..
Hoping this works out in my favor cause we do generate a lot of clicks so maybe all will be good (after they slapped out QS for no reason i dont see how it could get worse) |
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It wont be good for anyone but ebay....mark my words
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@bigb - eBay specificall acknowledged EBay Motors sellers saying that they realize the dynamics and analytics of car shoppers is different than other types of items. They are therefore separating those when they calculate EPC so you don't get screwed if lots of people click to look at cars but don't end up purchasing, since a car is a big investment decision for example and conversion is probably lower.
@SEO Mike - thanks for the kind words. It has been that way for a hot minute... now I just gotta start posting again lol.
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I'm not convinced this is going to be a good thing for affiliates. I didn't care about the lack of transparency in the ACRU change - I figured that to be a perk, incentive, whatever - but to completely change and obfuscate the payout model from a straight percentage per sale to some 'quality traffic score' that is ripe for errors on ePN's side - that to me just seems to be placing too much faith in ePN.
I'll continue to use auction2post for generating great content and sure the rover links to eBay that generate some 'quality click pricing' will be fine - but I'm much more interested in checking out some of the retail affiliate programs out there and incorporating those into my sites as I described here. Mashup sites from now on...
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that's kinda what i was thinking... "what"
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I'm not sure why everyone is so doom and gloom. They said some people would be making more some less. Are they looking out for number 1? Of course. Are they looking to commit affiliate suicide? I don't think so. Either way we'll all find out in a week or so. |
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You get paid more under this new system if you have high quality traffic. A whole lot more
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BTW: just an update, after their amazing network quality assurance guys re-evaluated my account, I'm still banned for life despite the fact someone else cookie stuffed with my ID. Whoever it was, congrats you beat me. Edit 2 - I've considered using all of the spidered EPN id's I've collected to cookie stuff random accounts to prove to EPN that it's being done. I've tried everything else the legit way already but obviously they're too fucking clueless and stupid to handle it like a real company. Their communication is worse than Dell. Fuck. Ok, rant over.
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Rob did you see what I posted over here Got some EPN (QPC) dirt to dish They talked about the spider issue. (In the forum) Epn seems to think there's not a problem with it and then at itall equals out but the 'one lung' guy had a point with what about the two or 3 days after the bots?
EDIT: You gotta consider though, that if you did that with other peoples epn ids that there a good possibility you're taking down some friends, like me. I told you you wouldn't get your account back you could have been up and running with a new one after all the time it took you to argue with them. |
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And I'm trying to play nice, but yeah I may just have to result in buying accounts. Meh.
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I don't believe I have been shifted over. But I'm pushing the same click and impression #s I was through the first part of the month, I earned a couple hundred bucks in 10 days, and then nothing since. Everyday, they just post zeros for earnings, and barely any bids.
I'm mostly in the holiday and back to school sort of niches. I should be booming right now. Ever since they announced that new structure, everything has gone to crap. Not that is related, but what a lousy coinkydink. Whatever, this isn't my bread and butter anyways. |
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What are you talking about? No one has shifted over yet. That won't happen until the 1st of September (I think) for anyone that gets approved after that date. For all of us we won't get shifted until October 1st. The only people who has any experience with this is the beta testers. The only one that I know of is the one on the phpbay forum and he says his earnings are higher. Looking forward to that preview function though fer sher. (should be any day now) |
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With all the recent changes its fucking hard not to break out the tinfoil hat every time something seems off with the numbers.
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I didn't see anyone post this link yet, but if you want to read more about the new Quality Click BS program, you can check it out here. Second tab down on the left.
https://publisher.ebaypartnernetwork...UserManualPage If you look under the General Questions area of the Quality Click Pricing, you'll see that EPN is actually letting some sites stay on CPA. So basically they're just picking and choosing who lives and who dies. I know it's their business, but if you're going to have an affiliate program, shouldn't you try to be consistent with it? Quote:
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Has anyone checked your new Quality Click Pricing preview in the report area? It's in there and it will give you a side by side comparison of the CPA vs QCP for your campaigns from August 18th thru today. During that time period I've made $575 on the old pay scale. It shows that on the new QCP, I would have earned $1000.51 with my epc being $0.20 higher than than the old scale. So theoretically I'm going to be making twice as much per month on the new program. Yeah, I'll believe that shit at the end of September.
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that conversation is happening in this thread.
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