edls4475

Some of you guys might have heard already that you might be getting a new rep at TheUseful in what I believe is their third re-organization in the past year. Layoffs occurred today as at least 25 people were let go. Seems like a lot of changes are happening and some good people are being let go. I wonder when the powers that be can stop blaming the people beneath them for their shortcomings?

SickandTired

I am certainly not surprised. The company has a long history of "things that make you go hmmm" The executives I have dealt with are morons - the worst being that Mike Mathews character - what an arrogant big-mouthed jerk. What a joke - i heard about the layoffs today as well. Every person that I knew there has voluntarily left or was just given a swift kick in the ass out the door. So many bad business decisions being made - I wonder how long it will take for Niuniu to wake up, grow up and start to hire and fire the right people. The inmates are now running the asylum!!!

Jon

Looks like they beat the Azoogle record of 16 in one day. 25 in one day.. that's fucking massive. Tell them to come here and post about it. We love that sorta drama!

Is it safe to now say The Useful will now be known as The Useless?

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Andrew

I'm sure there are plenty of other companies out there looking to pick up a few new employees.

edls4475

Yeah, let's hope but that's still dropping a lot of people out there. People might have to move to accept other jobs, be unemployed for a while and what not. I just think a lot of lives will be affected and that the situation (as well the company) could've been handled a little better.

dayjob

I know everyone loves a scandal, but could this be an example of things getting blown out of proportion? I called a friend over there who I trust, who I've had beers with, etc., and he said "yeah, I heard about the postings, but the truth is about 8 were laid off". Then there were a few that resigned saying they were moving to another state.

Oh yeah, edls4475 was fired from TheUseful, so he'll probably have a hard-on no matter what. His situation doesn't really make for "fair and accurate" reporting. Maybe he should concentrate on trying to make his current position with GRS / Filinet successful instead of holding onto the past. I've been called "gay" on this board before, but damn Ed:

http://www.google.com/search?q=edls4...50%2CGGIH%3Aen

For those that aren't familiar with Wilton Manors, it's one of nation's premiere gay friendly destinations:
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That would explain his love for drama. Not that there's anything WRONG with that of course, if it happens to be your cup o' tea! Sorry John, I know this isn't helping with the forum's "gay friendly" reputation.

EleanorRigby

hahaha

MinorThreat

Uh, no, you're wrong and so is you "friend." TheUseful is laying off 25 people and that's straight from the mouth of the president. I know of at least 14 that have already been axed and I'm sure there's more, so I believe 25 rather than 8.

Dayjob, defend them all you want it still doesn't change the fact that people are either being fired or are leaving of their own freewill because management at TheUseful has made poor decisions. You must be the only one who ever got paid on time and legit from TheUseful to defend them so!

edls4475

Well, I guess your "friend" was right and I was wrong. If that's the case, then I'll stand by your word. But when people who work there and also know people who work there tell me upper management gives out these #s, I'm willing to believe them.

As far as it getting personal and you want to call me "gay", I could throw in such memorable gestures as "that's not what your mom said" , "takes one to know one" , etc. etc. But I'll let that go.

Have a nice day

EleanorRigby

WickedCity

NO... there weren't 25 or even 14 people layed off yesterday -- not even close.

MinorThreat

ok wickedcity, and why then would the president of the company say that 25 people we're being laid off in 72 hour period? Are you suggesting it's a unique way of boosting morale, or that perhaps it was a joke? HAHA, that's a damn good joke. Yes, they are doing it for business reasons, but all could certainly be avoided with more intelligent and researched hiring and expansion efforts to begin with.

Jon

I don't really care what the real number is.. I just like calling them The Useless!

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EleanorRigby

agreed.

kfheard

Since the announcement of 25 people getting laid off and no one is stating the REAL issue of what is happening at TheUseful. Upper management's salaries are so HUGE that if they got rid a a few VP's they could save the jobs of ALOT HARD WORKING EMPLOYEES. So let's think of the wasted salary of Mike Mathews (does anyone in the industry really like him OR just tolerate him because we all know the control is really with Niuniu?) Maybe if the company stopped paying for him to fly back and forth to NY they could save a few qualified harding working people that do all his work - that report to him - cmon admit we all know that these are the people that explain how this business works to you Mike. Now that is just one of many VP's there - think about how much money could really be saved if they thought about it................

Bottom line TheUseful is Useless.....Their attitude of you want to work with us then do it our way is childish - if you really need to work with them the real question is WHY????? So many companies in their space do it BETTER!

MinorThreat

On that note, ask anybody if they've ever worked with or heard from Devon Cohen of TheUseful's automotive lead gen channel, or Jack Owen the COO of TheUseful. Over a year Devon has been a VP there and I've never seen an automotive offer from them. And why would they need a COO, who probably brings home a half mill each year, when they've got a President? Most companies either have one or the other, not both... Useless

EleanorRigby

Devon actually put in his resignation...probably because he realized what a joke the company is? I dunno... just a thought.

Jon

Does TheUseless only handle major brands for publishers and other network offers? I ask only because I, personally have never heard of them until they started to sponsor things, and they just seemed like another network in the long line of loads of others.

What makes them unique/different from the rest? Seriously please..

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stupidredhaired

How about this guy???

Jon

Huh?

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EleanorRigby

That my friend is Niuniu (aka the brains behind the whole operation) I hear he's a whiz kid.....met him a few times.

stupidredhaired

yup.

aeiouy

What a weird premise. You introduce him as your friend, yet you just hear he is a whiz kid and have met him just a few times.

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Jon

How old is he?

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casidnet

I think he was calling Jon his friend not the picture guy.

aeiouy

G-Damn it.

He certainly did. Not sure why I read it that way.

I will have to get angelina to leave me alone when I am reading posts on Wicked Fire.

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EleanorRigby

he's 26 or 27ish

Jon

With all of these layoffs coming or already happening, does this mean The Useless is showing signs of tanking, or is this just a way to clean up an old mess of some sort?

Usually when a company lets go of a significant portion of it's staff, especially in one day, they are gearing up to make changes. Like with Azoogle, they let go of those Toronto based staffers because they were moving all of the AM and marketing departments down to NYC, and keeping the rest in Toronto for support to the affiliates and advertisers. I think it was a smart move on their part in many ways, but not all.

So what's The Useless up to now and after this fire storm?

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dvdking05

Just found this forum and all i have to say is that there are some major problems going on over there. Luckily i left there right before the mass layoffs happened, but once they get kicked off of google (which is bound to happen again) they're really screwed. It unfortunate because there are some good hard working people there and some good people in management (the few).

Unfortunately, due to improper planning and flat out poor management I'm willing to bet the house that there will be another round of layoffs happening here in the not-so-distant future, which is a shame. You have Dale and other top executives making outragous salaries (way too much for what they're worth to be honest with you) who will decide to take the easy way out and just get rid of people.

Know a couple of people who were laid-off from there and these people deserved much better than what they got. These were hard working and very intelligent people.

onlinegirlie

I agree whole-heartedly. They are dumb for laying off certain people. Oh well, any other company in the industry will be lucky to have them. I know most of the people have been snatched up already. What a idiotic decision they made...oh well...

onlinegirlie

Can any of you former employees/current employees offer any insight on this? Let us know your thoughts.

Jon

I highly doubt they are reading this thread, it's pretty old.. not to mention they wouldn't find it unless someone pointed them to it directly.

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edls4475

Actually, a lot of former and current employees still read this forum. They told me people were still posting on it. That's why I decided to check to see what was going on. But hey, what would I know? I'm just a gay, vengeful person... No one should listen to me, what would I know?

onlinegirlie

aww I'm all ears! you used to work there i'm assuming?

onlinegirlie

aww I'm all ears! you used to work there i'm assuming?

edls4475

Yeah, I used to work there. Then I started this post and then got accused of being gay and vengeful. Apparently some people can't take criticism. Everyone I talk to over there feels as though they are walking on egg shells, but hey what would I know?

dayjob

Oh Ed, c'mon, I was just having a little fun. Everyone knows that. Don't take it personally. I still love you. But not in the way you're thinking. I love you differently...I love you in the man/butt kinda way. And stop leaving your damn toothbrush at my place. If you need to reach me later, I'll be "in the Jim" ;-)

edls4475

You mean all those nights I stayed up at night crying myself to sleep because of what you said meant nothing? Does this mean I should cancel my therapy sessions? Anyways, you wait long enough and you'll see what everyone was talking about... Good luck over there.. Oh wait, that's right... tell your "friend" good luck over there...

rumorpatrol

I heard that there are going to be a LOT more layoffs. Massive this time. My source even went so far to say that they were laying off more than 100 people this time! IF this turns out to be true it will be very unfortunate. Im assuming they will just outsource most everything. Also with the company moving so far south, I'm sure a lot of people will just bail out on their own. Thoughts?

onlinegirlie

I heard this too....3 or 4 people got laid off earlier this week....it's starting again.