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Old 05-04-2010, 09:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Checkthisout Facebook at war w/aff marketers

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Thanks for the mention! I've been getting a bit of traffic from WickedFire, always appreciate it. ANd thanks to whomever sent me the WickedFire TSHIRT!
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Well then... how does FB intend to get anyone else to advertise through them...... there is no one left ;P
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Well then... how does FB intend to get anyone else to advertise through them...... there is no one left ;P
How dare you make light of the affiliate community's delusion that once a traffic source no longer wants aff money said traffic source will shrivel up and die, after all look at how bad google is doing these days.
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They send their reps to affiliate marketing conferences and they show up at parties to talk shop, what's the point of that if we don't "fit into their long term growth plan”?
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I am hoping that my post will help them see the light and want to actually have customer service.
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Pace's articles would be OK if he didn't censor his comments. Pace loves to delete anything that isn't favorable to him. He has been deleting my comments about his self serving posts for weeks now.

Take it for what its worth, rehashed BS spun to make Pace's position look better. FB hates edu ads due to his networks inability to monitor the compliance of those offers themselves. (funny how he posted weeks ago about a networks ability to be compliant, what a joke) His network was supposedly specifically banned from FB for the obama EDU ads they allowed pubs to run. If he didnt help affiliates push the envelope in search of profits, then maybe FB wouldn't hate pubs and his article wouldn't need to be written

Pace you take shots at people expect them to shoot back! WF doesnt censor so feel free to respond.

As an FYI my gripe with Pace is his post about Copeac being party to a class action lawsuit that EVERY network was hit with, however it was a better story for Pace to point out us in his article. He failed to mention that the same firm sued his company 2 years ago and actually got a big settlement from them, he also goes on to talk about the suit being hazardous to pubs and they should work with a network with a good compliance team protecting publishers, guess your compliance team couldnt protect pubs from being banned off facebook huh?
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Pace's articles would be OK if he didn't censor his comments. Pace loves to delete anything that isn't favorable to him. He has been deleting my comments about his self serving posts for weeks now.

Take it for what its worth, rehashed BS spun to make Pace's position look better. FB hates edu ads due to his networks inability to monitor the compliance of those offers themselves. (funny how he posted weeks ago about a networks ability to be compliant, what a joke) His network was supposedly specifically banned from FB for the obama EDU ads they allowed pubs to run. If he didnt help affiliates push the envelope in search of profits, then maybe FB wouldn't hate pubs and his article wouldn't need to be written

Pace you take shots at people expect them to shoot back! WF doesnt censor so feel free to respond.

As an FYI my gripe with Pace is his post about Copeac being party to a class action lawsuit that EVERY network was hit with, however it was a better story for Pace to point out us in his article. He failed to mention that the same firm sued his company 2 years ago and actually got a big settlement from them, he also goes on to talk about the suit being hazardous to pubs and they should work with a network with a good compliance team protecting publishers, guess your compliance team couldnt protect pubs from being banned off facebook huh?
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Mike, everyone knows I'm self-serving. I love to promote my business and make money for the clients and companies I work for. I'm a marketing and advertising guy. If you are in this industry to do anything else, you better leave it. I love what I do, and I love working for my clients.

Yeah, my personal blog sucks. I'll live with it.

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The difference is, Mr Lattin, some of us make a living preying on consumers, whereas others among us resort to cannibalism.
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Hmmmm! Interesting thought indeed. I'd like to think none of us "prey on consumers" but instead provide a service and products that they are interested in. I'm not a meat eater, so can't comment on cannibalism!
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Hmmmm! Interesting thought indeed. I'd like to think none of us "prey on consumers" but instead provide a service and products that they are interested in. I'm not a meat eater, so can't comment on cannibalism!
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Pace and Vizi Interactive are the biggest bunch of crooks in the industry. He still owes a few networks/publishers a lot of money!!
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Dofus?

lol Pace youre a funny guy Facebook doesn't get it: Affiliate Marketers areGood - Articles - IndustryPace.com - Interactive Advertising Insight

I guess the last line is at me.

Why did you email me on Facebook?

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wan to work with this out. how about senidng me a box ad and i'll put you up on my blog. Really not trying to create a war here, have too many good things to deal with. New kid, really put things in perspective...

Or this one

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I didn't know that, I will mention again and update. Not a good idea to comment in forums, makes everoyne look like retards.

Read my other emails, life is too short, y'know?



You can see from the time stamps he emailed me immediately after my response to this thread above.

Carlos or Pace whatever his name is this month still has not done the right thing and addressed my post below about his incorrect comments, he also didnt address why facebook is now booting affiliate networks from their ad platform.
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Yeah, let's hear about that, Pace. Don't bribe him with box ads, just spill it.

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Mike, everyone knows I'm self-serving. I love to promote my business and make money for the clients and companies I work for. I'm a marketing and advertising guy. If you are in this industry to do anything else, you better leave it. I love what I do, and I love working for my clients.

Yeah, my personal blog sucks. I'll live with it.

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I'm just curious if thats what you did with Vizi? When you screwed every publisher you had out of thousands of dollars? Then got kicked from DMX?

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lol Pace youre a funny guy Facebook doesn't get it: Affiliate Marketers areGood - Articles - IndustryPace.com - Interactive Advertising Insight

I guess the last line is at me.

Why did you email me on Facebook?

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wan to work with this out. how about senidng me a box ad and i'll put you up on my blog. Really not trying to create a war here, have too many good things to deal with. New kid, really put things in perspective...

Or this one

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I didn't know that, I will mention again and update. Not a good idea to comment in forums, makes everoyne look like retards.

Read my other emails, life is too short, y'know?



You can see from the time stamps he emailed me immediately after my response to this thread above.

Carlos or Pace whatever his name is this month still has not done the right thing and addressed my post below about his incorrect comments, he also didnt address why facebook is now booting affiliate networks from their ad platform.

Meh let it be. It's what this guy does, I'm waiting for him to climb the ladder at affiliate.com and then start sucking the company dry like he did with Vizi.

Oh yeah, Copeac rocks
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a lot of people tend to forget about the straight-up business looking to advertise their product or service. i think they are left...
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No shit lol.. If I go on my adboard there aren't many affliates at all.
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i think the whole issue is that affiliate marketers tend to trick people into buying something so they can get the commission. i mean, it's essentially lying. that is what facebook and google don't like. they're trying to improve the quality of the web. i bet you'll be fine using facebook for affiliate marketing if you do it in a better way instead of making your lander a flog with all sorts of fake testimonials. aff marketers should try making a real blog with real reviews of products, then their site will be of value to the online community AND they'll make some money off of the commissions AND they won't get banned from facebook.
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i think the whole issue is that affiliate marketers tend to trick people into buying something so they can get the commission. i mean, it's essentially lying. that is what facebook and google don't like. they're trying to improve the quality of the web. i bet you'll be fine using facebook for affiliate marketing if you do it in a better way instead of making your lander a flog with all sorts of fake testimonials. aff marketers should try making a real blog with real reviews of products, then their site will be of value to the online community AND they'll make some money off of the commissions AND they won't get banned from facebook.
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i think the whole issue is that affiliate marketers tend to trick people into buying something so they can get the commission. i mean, it's essentially lying. that is what facebook and google don't like. they're trying to improve the quality of the web. i bet you'll be fine using facebook for affiliate marketing if you do it in a better way instead of making your lander a flog with all sorts of fake testimonials. aff marketers should try making a real blog with real reviews of products, then their site will be of value to the online community AND they'll make some money off of the commissions AND they won't get banned from facebook.
Yea because all the testimonials and reviews you see in the media are real.
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Ehhh, Facebook is becoming more of a failure than Myspace. They really should learn how to accept and not reject. Oh lookie, I madez a rhymie.
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Yea because all the testimonials and reviews you see in the media are real.
exactly what i was thinking.... its actually been proven that 90% of everything you see in magazines and tv is true
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Ehhh, Facebook is becoming more of a failure than Myspace. They really should learn how to accept and not reject. Oh lookie, I madez a rhymie.
Sorry but nothing in your post rhymes.
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They send their reps to affiliate marketing conferences and they show up at parties to talk shop, what's the point of that if we don't "fit into their long term growth plan”?
public recognition, community participation etc.

ultimately, to any ad platform.. corporate branders advertising 365 days a yr on max bids without necessarily having income objectives >>> 'affiliates' and others who will fight, bite and steal to meet their ad-dependent check by the end of the week.
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If it's only because of those reasons I think there are still plenty of rooms for internet marketers to do their things. People will always compare FB and google. In terms of their ads, I'd say that FB is still better.
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You just have to know how to market on Facebook correctly. It can be done successfully and many marketers are making full time income just from Facebook alone. If you're interested in a Facebook Marketing product check out my signature.

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How about you all shut the fuck up and go back to you holes?

Noone here is making sense or knows what you're on about. My mum said so.
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It's always the same story. They start out with the average affiliate marketer who spend $100 a month with them. Then when they get big and start to get noticed by Ad agencies, the average affiliate marketer becomes scum.

I understood this after Google banned my Adwords account.
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I agree with GobalaKrishnan , I understood this after Google banned my Adwords account.......
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Lets watch if facebook will improve compared to google add Interesting
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