moltar

Wow!!

Digital Point Owners Indicted – Out on 100k Bail | NickyCakes.com

I think we should all pitch in money and buy DP to keep it alive. Don't want a noob flood. Or at least buy their user database and ban all the IPs

kimboslice

Facing 20 years.

Wow.

faceblogger

BTW, I think more than half of their users are xrumer profiles - created by xrumer...!!!

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OJQJeff

Good God 40 million dollar fine for cookie stuffing .. this is not a 40 million dollar civil suit .. this is a state imposed fine, that is insane ... This could be a pretty landmark case in how Cookies are viewed legally...

It just goes to show that you can make a ton of cake being shady, but you better watch over your shoulder cause it could come down on you at anytime.

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moltar

that's the way a cookie crumbles...

Ardoris

Humm...
Didn't they make enough money just from Forum traffics?
I guess it wasn't enough.

moltar

forums dont usually make much money of their own

ChinaSearchAds

Yes, they shouldn't have done it but why are they having a criminal trial? Surely the civil action from ebay should be enough. In cases involving big corporations they should get their money back, their costs and perhaps a bit more and then do something to improve their security. FBI investigations, trials and prison space are on the taxpayers' dime, and ebay and CJ should not be getting this corporate welfare.

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PlzNotInTheFace

Good ol' wire fraud!

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_fraud]Wire fraud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

teatree

They won't come here, they'll go to the Warrior Forum.

Upstairs

boom!

faceblogger

Many of them will come here instead of going to warrior forum. I was in DP until last year and then I have come here.

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sousen

Did they make 40 million over the year... It's bad

faceblogger

Any idea that when DP is gonna wiped off from the internet!?

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nkobend

yeah, we just love having you here.

this forum needs more cockmunchers.

mediasup

Get ready to see the message hello DP member oh wait scratch that hello wickfire members Im a guru on DP Forum I have come here to save you i have a great ebook i would like to sell you for $5 dollars, act now only 200 copies available underground cookie method. Only a matter of time before the flood

patrick24601

Just use the original story....

Affiliates Indicted For Cookie Stuffing | ReveNews

Stefan Johne

This could be words from Jesus. Keep WickedFire alive! Stick your cock in your CD drive and watch what happens!

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sumitdhawan

Hello friends,

Maybe Shawn can sell Digial Point for about one hundred million in order to pay fine and law suit.

With money left he can put in investments good. By time he get out jail in 10 or 20 year can have lot money waiting for him for live good live.

Good luck bros

kblessinggr

Probably seized most of their assets already anyways...

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tjewsky

lmao I think DP/Shawn's getting what they deserve

kblessinggr

Probably would have been smarter of them to do it on a number of well dispersed sites than right on their most directly-tied-to-them domain.

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GerardWon

Would it be wrong to send him an email with a dickroll link now that he is facing 20 years of anal?
Though I sort of do admire his balls. I would not be able to sleep at night after scamming 20 mil in fake commissions. I mean wtf -where did this traffic come from ? That question would play over and over in my mind. Because it sure as shit didn't come from DP.

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r3p1v

WHOA! whoawhoawhoa

eBay seriously paid them that much money without even checking into it and being sure everything was legit? HOLY....................................

dsiomtw

I heard someone once bought 100k worth of popups and made $1 mil in about a week...

Blastyourass

This is serious $hit here. This will have grave implications for many of the black hatters out there and also forum owners who are using members data, such as their email and IP to essentially steal affiliate commissions.

How easy would it be for a forum owner to stuff code on their sites and then hijack someones browser? EASY!

In order to steal over $15 million from ebay using the alleged methods Hogan used, you would have to have access to a A LOT of traffic. What better platform then a webmaster forum like DigitalPoint with newbies up his a$$?

I am sure he may have used other methods, but my educated guess is that the DP was his preying grounds. It may still be.

To be quite honest with you all, I hate thieves, liars, frauds and scammers. Especially webmasters who claim they are experts, gurus or stars, when in fact they are nothing but thieves that scam from the very people that trust and rely on them for help or information. It is akin to getting raped by your school teacher or priest. These people need to be rooted out from the internet and sent to prison. I am going to go after these scum bags daily and expose their scams. So, if you are a black hatter who is using your skill to steal, you will be exposed or caught eventually.

The facts are that many of the so called gurus and million dollar affiliates use these same tactics. They have no real online marketing skills because it is all chicanery, theft and deception.

I wrote an article about this yesterday that goes more in depth than Mr. Cakes post.

FBI Charges Digital Point Forum Founder, Shawn Hogan With Fraud | Internet Scams, Online scams, Rip Off

Is he hacking and stealing from his own Digital Point members?

It is unknown at this time if he is is using or was using his forum at Digital Point as a potential gateway for his alleged million dollar eBay scam. However, one has to wonder since he has access to thousands of web visitors daily with their emails and their actual IP addresses. If he did, he has the perfect scam platform to capture people’s data and then use it against them. The same people that he claims to help on his webmaster forum.


Here is the V7n.com forum owner, John Scott in 2008 saying that Hogan had shared this cookie stuffing trick with him. What I find peculiar is that a few members on the V7n forum call out Scott for cosigning Hogans cookie stuffing fraudulent behavior and then you will see that many of them were banned from the website. I guess John doesnt like ethical people calling this alleged crime what it is, A FRAUD!
Here is what Scott said;

Shawn was kind enough to share the “cookie stuffing” tip with me years ago, and although I never did it because I thought it seemed a bit iffy, I don’t think that he perceived it to be unethical or wrong. I don’t think Shawn would have done it if he saw it as unethical.


I’m sure Shawn will work something out with ebay. Just seems like they might have failed to make it clear what commissions they are liable for.

Is this fricken clown serious? But the major problem here Mr. Scott is that your “buddy” may one of the biggest scammers in the history of the internets and by you cosigning him, that makes you just as slimy in my book. I find it funny that John Scott’s public statement about Hogan sharing these fraud techniques probably garnished him a visit by the FBI AND he may now be a witness against cookie pal.

Sticks79

^^^ Haha, love the MTV cribs "interview" nice crib, keep pimpin.

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theunicorn

always assumed he was stuffing at dp.

dsiomtw

You would have to be incredibly stupid to cookie stuff your way to being eBay's #1 affiliate and think they aren't going to figure out what you're doing. Hogan is either mentally retarded, or he truly thinks what he was doing was OK.

espey127

Not sure how many of you will remember The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show but this story reminds of the charters Boris and Natasha. Boris claimed to be an active member of Local 12 of the VTSU, Villains, Thieves, and Scoundrels Union.

blog8491

What will happen to Shawan. is this the end of DP?

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Blastyourass

Here is Hogan today on the DP. Looks like he is just going to let this ride and enjoy the traffic so he can get some adsense clicks for his legal defense fund. I dunno....

The Big Digitalpoint / eBay / FBI thread - all discussions happen here - Page 2

Between the amount of people who come to his forum and use his online tools, I bet he had access to tons of unique ip's to hijack daily. I think it's a smart move to let everyone just ride it out and talk about it on the DP. Just as long as he doesn't implicate himself more. However, these same people probably have already been fucked in the a$$ by him and they have no idea.

Well, it is because his penis is soooooooooooo small that he slips it in without them ever knowing they've been screwed. Kinda like stuffing your browser with cookies on DP.

Damain

DP would be one of the last places i'd choose to cookie stuff. There may be a lot of noobs, but i doubt it would be long before someone noticed the little rover.ebay.com url loading in the status bar and report it. Less than 30% of its traffic is from profitable EPN countries.

seoworking

Well I hope this doesnt kill DP, I really like it. :P

Blastyourass

Are your from India, yes/no?

identity_00

And...how much money did ebay/paypal make off those commissions?

zingo

Fuck DP....

This make me larf

zingo

Shauns rebuttal -

What Does Carmen Electra, Cyber-Terrorism and Meg Whitman Have In Common? eBay! - Blogs - Digital Point Forums

Demon

Wow.

FTC-Hater

that was a great read

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justo_tx

I made to to about the Carmen Electra stuff. Great read or no, do you guys give any credence to this story or is it a huge load of bullshit? Seems like bullshit to me (the Feds really telling soembody being charged they think it's a bogus case? come on dude).

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Blastyourass

So eBay told him to do it. Fucken lame defense.

Um, the manger opened the bank vault and I just took the money because the manager said it was OK. I am not guilty since he told me to take it.. Or she dressed like a whore, so she deserved to get raped!

WTF?!!!!!

Funny how he says the FBI agent says it should be just a civil case. These guys are paid to act like it is no big deal so they get confessions easily. He just spilled the guilty beans. He just sealed his fate with that post.

Did the Hoolligan Hogan talk with a lawyer before he wrote that?

This is going to be HUGE folks.

Damain

That story sounds like something a bizop buyer would dream he got involved in. What sort of retard would let their AM coerce them into buying them stuff and wonder if it was normal, then ask to stop earning $1m+ per month

'gee, i guess this is how the internet business is done. oh, and when can you stop sending me these millions!?!?!?, i've been trying to cancel this service for months!!! do i have to get my bank account number changed? I DO NOT LIKE THIS MONEY. GOOGLE HAS BEEN GOOD TO ME AND I WANT TO STOP HURTING IT'...

FTC-Hater

It's not all BS.

Bottom line, whether he 'likes' money or not, greed was the main factor on both sides and he did a lot more 'gray' stuff than he cared to cover.

...It'll be an interesting case. Doubt he'll do jail time, but I haven't looked into it all too much. Waste of time.

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blog8491

I never though that DP is doing these kind of things. WTF.

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theunicorn

sounds like bullshit.

faceblogger

LOL!

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seolinker

Exactly my thoughts, like 80% of DP users are from India/Pakistan/Malaysia/China/etc.... did they bought all this ebay stuff ? Highly doubt

ayzo

They didn't cookie stuff DP, they stuffed the coop link exchange network via the "tracking" pixel and then bought a bunch of junk iframe/popup traffic.

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nkobend

ah... digital pointless.... i'm gonna miss those fucked up mongs.