zingo

New providers when you create your original post you must state clearly exactly what your offering.

Do not post "I am offering 7500 PR 2 + links that are super powerful" when your really offering profile links on sites that are PR 2 +.

I call these "mystery links", and it is a waste of everyone's time when the buyers either have to P.M you or ask exactly what your offering.

When you create your original post make it very CLEAR and EXACT what your offering.

The same thing applies to your TITLES as well.

These type of "mystery links/posts" can lead to either a BAN or having your thread deleted.

backlinkers

I would like to add one more idea,For a newbie provider with 0itrader Must give a small package lets say 5$ or 10$ not more than That,Then once got reviews and itraders they can give bigger packages.
So that we can stop the review beggars as well as scams.

airforcematt

Good move zingo - was getting a bit out of hand with those "I can has build links but don't ask me where" folks

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mediastar100

can we include designers who post without portfolios?

zingo

That is a good question, what is the general consensus on this?

seous

Fuck no. I think that every new designer here should give out a couple unique reviews though. :P

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zingo

That is there option, we cannot and should not force anyone to give a review.

If they are smart business people they will do what is right and prove themselves, trust is earned around here.

seous

I agree, but there are some distinct situations in which having a portfolio isn't good for buyers.

- Designer may have wiped his computer recently and lost all of his works (Happened to me).

- Designer could have stolen the portfolio from someone else.

I remember starting out with my designing, and I didn't have any samples because I had to wipe my computer. It was really hard to get started then, so I feel for people who don't have portfolios :/

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omega42900

I dont think its a rule that can be enforced, but for anyone that wants to do business on the forum, I think it's a must. It's just cost of business. You can post AD somewhere, and typically that'll cost you money. This is pretty much that, except that you're trading in your work.

seous

Oooh. More Mystery Links. I got mah own Jingle up in dis bitch. http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/...ed-tested.html

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eVandals

why don't you guys just moderate the sell buy trade section...

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zingo

He should have read the sticky, he can now come back in his next life as a new fresh roach.

blog8491

Now we have great zingo. We can help him to make this section better than other forums BST sections.

airforcematt

That's what Zingo is doing dude...

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1yerrot

Ummmm, dude. What the freak do you think is going on? It's being moderated like a MOFO and it's about time. Good work Erect and Zingo!

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zingo

I am guessing you have not been around here lately? Try to open a thread and abuse it and see what happens.

I have banned about 40 accounts that were abusing this place in the past week 1/2, I am thinking it is being moderated.

I have spent many many hours already going through the system and looking at all aspects of these accounts.

After a while you start to see the patterns and can zero in pretty quick.

I really feel for anyone that thinks they can continue to fuck this place over as it will be short lived.

eVandals

I should have phrased "moderate" differently as I meant have sbt threads go into moderation before they go live for that specific forum. You could catch the shit before it happens instead of having the garbage pop up and then playing whack a mole, but I suppose that's a big change(although definitely possible through vbulletin). I'm in no way discrediting your acute bullshit detecting skills or increasing banhammer speeds zingo, in fact I applaud them greatly and would award you a large medal had I the power.

Cheers

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zingo

Understood, and yes that might help a little. There is actually already a queue like this already maybe increasing the post count a little might help.

Maybe the "moles" will catch on the bullshit has ended here as long as admins let me moderate I will whack there fucking heads off as I see them pop up

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If (number of posts > 100 || iTrader > 5)
{
Auto approve thread
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else
{
Moderate thread
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Grindstone

Zingo, serious question. Might be better for a PM but in the spirit of transparency, I'm gonna put it here.

Gearing up to relaunch the new LL stuff, and for lack of a better description, we will have some mystery links. As in, you're not gonna see them unless you spend a bunch of time in siteexplorer and googling advanced combo queries, they're not going to be in the report, but you'll see the effects. Why take this route? Because some of these concepts could be copycatted in a couple hours with ubot, are extremely effective and I don't feel like outing techniques that very few people are doing, let alone aware of the potential that they exist. But at the same time, I want to crush the competition, both for our clients in the SERPs and here on WF regarding other link sellers.

As this approaches tl;dr territory, is it ok to offer packages with clearly defined linkbuilding aspects plus additional links/juicing activities that won't be revealed or should I just keep it to the mailing list and not do a public relaunch on WF?

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zingo

This mainly applies to new providers who come here and do not make clear what they are offering. Example: they are selling profile links but post "high pr links" or "guaranteed #1 serp" .. Shit like that, basically time wasters.

It does not apply to to what your talking about so feel free to post up.

Grindstone

Thanks for the clarification, appreciate it.

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airforcematt

Here's another roach for you Zingo

http://www.wickedfire.com/sell-buy-t...links-you.html

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zingo

He has been sprayed with Raid.

hareedoptimizer

I wanna create thread,Thanks for your suggestion.I will follow the tips in creating the title of my thread.
Thanks.

_GR1NN3R_

Hi Zingo,

I've been a member of this forum for a little while and have seen the changes about cleaning it up, I'm all for it.

I want to offer a service providing Unique content that is word randomized article paragraphs. the content will be mostly non-sensical but it will be unique. I plan to clearly detail this in the offer.

The reason I'm asking you first is that this forum is extremely valuable to me as a source of purchasing links for my businesses and if I was banned it would affect me greatly.

I see that your policy is 'shoot first ask questions later' so I want to check that offering a service like this doesn't break any rules.

Your input will be appreciated.

Cheers..

zingo

Sure why not.

EyeWeb@9

Hello Zingo,I'm a newbie and I missed this post and i opened a thread where i didn't mention package details.Is it possible to edit now?

thanks,
eyeweb@9

zingo

Just update your thread.

andly

Lately I see many people trying to resell other services without clearly mentioning it in their thread (just sent a pm regarding one I found).

I think this could be a protection for buyers to avoid to buy a service they already have used in the past

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seohug

Agreed. They should mention if they are outsourcing or they own the blogs...etc.

Bofu2U

What ... exactly would be the purpose of this as a requirement for the BST? "You must state that you're outsourcing X" - everyone outsources something at some level. It's worthless to require people to state it. If you want to ask it, ask it but IMO it should NOT be a requirement.

Just call me old fashioned but I don't ask Staples for their supplier information for the stapler I want to purchase.

This part with more focus I completely agree. If it's a link blast package I think it should be mentioned in the thread whether or not they control the property it's being put on.

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zingo

I would ask them and if they are caught in a lie they will be banned no questions asked. Just send me some evidence.

andly

I already sent you a pm

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Abagail

Thanks

Douglife

What's your stand on XRumer modifications? For instance most backlink services use Xrumer, in various formats, but mine is edited differently, does that make it a mystery link?

And if not, I would just have to mention the information above in the title correct?

zingo

be clear with what your offering.. that's about it.

gump87

http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/125280-providing-google-top-10-ranking-pay-results.html

^this thread is very vague. no pricing or description of linking strategy/package details.

OldFusser

50 Backlinks for $2 = Ridiculous

zingo

done

MSTeacher

http://www.wickedfire.com/sell-buy-t...ml#post1306428

send $15 plzkthx

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zingo

banned

gump87

http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/...view-copy.html

http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/...-pr-blogs.html

Both of these are the definition of mystery links/posts.

zingo

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kaif0346

Its very nice and a good step for honest trading.I like your policies.

andly

Yes, this is a mystery link

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xtremeseoprofes

its very good thread which help to improve your fourm policy and get banned for scammers.

magicdoll

thanks for your guidance..

zingo

pls post more worthless stuff here so you can be quickly banned thax