CLOSED THREADS.. READ HERE

[zygis.service]

These things like threads closing, fee per thread is like launching new Windows. Firstly they release it and after that improving them (fixing bugs because they rushed too fast and so on) 1-2 years. Like here, firstly WF released this new thing and now a lot of things are unknown, nobody knows how everything will be in next days , of course something will be changed in this system, so why don't firstly decide what and how to do, discuss with WF members and then start revolution in WF?

[cathy rydu]

Hello,

I've some doubt may i know whats the reason behind the however more thread still active ?This rules active from today.so why not take steps again following person.

Here is link :

LOOKING FOR EMAIL CONTENT WRITER

[Beat Panda] High Quality SEO Optimized Article Service | Review Copies

$3/500 words..high quality writing service....use it now

http://www.wickedfire.com/content/14...-articles.html

BMR Writing Guru

Please clarify my question

regards

[flx89]

My vote goes for this system:

50$ monthly fee and thread goes live and never gets deleted.

If any moderator can answer to the question we all have in mind right now....

WHAT'S THE POINT OF DELETING THREADS AFTER A FEW DAYS???

[Legendary]

the OTHER WF forum charges $40 for thread, and it has about 2000 times more traffic compared to WickedFire.

So Why would anyone pay $36 every 10 days?

Probably Noone will pay. And you will see that...

[HiGhPeR]

Originally Posted by Legendary

the OTHER WF forum charges $40 for thread, and it has about 2000 times more traffic compared to WickedFire.

So Why would anyone pay $36 every 10 days?

Probably Noone will pay. And you will see that...

You're an idiot if you can't figure this one out.

[kakaboo]

Originally Posted by davidb

All you people with quality services that have past customers should have or be setting up ways for past customers to contact you and reorder.

List your Skype account, setup a separate website, whatever. Use BST to generate new customers, but do not solely rely on it for repeat business. Whatever the final decision is with respect to BST, You Should Be Doing This. Make it easy for your previous customers to get in contact with you and order your services again, as needed.

Some don't because of this

Read Before Posting: Pet Peeves That Will Probably Get You In Trouble

Putting emails in threads. I like to ban dumbasses that do this. If you can't keep business on WickedFire - the place where you're selling - then you can just go away.

Most probably didn't expect something like this to happen anyway (The closing thread stuff)

[andly]

Originally Posted by davidb

All you people with quality services that have past customers should have or be setting up ways for past customers to contact you and reorder.

List your Skype account, setup a separate website, whatever. Use BST to generate new customers, but do not solely rely on it for repeat business. Whatever the final decision is with respect to BST, You Should Be Doing This. Make it easy for your previous customers to get in contact with you and order your services again, as needed.

This is what I do all time. But open a new thread every 10 days penalyze both sellers and buyers.

Still, I don't understand why some threads are still open

[LiamGallagher]

Why don't you make the BST posting a privilege only for people who subscribes (via PayPal or whatever). Limit the number of created threads per person and no need to create the same thread all over again.

IMHO, the fee is quite expensive, specially for writers who are struggling at the beginning. At ~$1.5/100 words it would take them to write more than 2,000 words to afford the publishing fee alone. I'm not a writer nor a seller, just my 2 cents.

[penultimate]

Yes, I agree with the above ^

[-joe-]

I've already stated my opinions about making people pay for threads in a couple of other threads, when it was first suggested. I wasn't a fan of it then, and I'm not a fan of it now. [although it's Jon's forum, I know he can do whatever, and I know he doesn't owe us anything.] Wickedfire had the best BST of any of the forums I visit, and it was the only BST I used. I don't think that'll be the case for much longer, although we'll see how it turns out.

$108 per month is too high. I have no plans to sell in the BST anywhere, but it'll really affect some of the people from India who sell here. The average monthly wage in India is what, $300? I doubt the price would be getting the same generally positive reaction if people from the West the same percentage of the average salary. (~$2000 per month, so $660/month) I can't honestly really see any advantages of this system, ok, it brings in Jon some cash for the work he puts in, but I'd prefer to see ads on Wickedfire than this.

[mx=headroom]

Originally Posted by -joe-

I can't honestly really see any advantages of this system, ok, it brings in Jon some cash for the work he puts in, but I'd prefer to see ads on Wickedfire than this.

I'm not Jon so I can't speak for him, but if I were to guess it's not about the money. This is about everyone bitching left and right about the quality of the SBT section, or lack there of. Everyone bitching about everyone, people outright stealing and repurposing packages, having to assign Zingo to moderate the section, dealing with everyone whining via PM.

To me this seems like an easy way to basically kill the SBT section, so no more whining about it if it doesn't exist. Sellers not happy about the fees and the 10 day threads. Buyers not happy that there will be no reviews and wary of purchasing anything. If a seller puts up the cash for a thread and no one buys, how long will they continue to throw money down the drain before they give up and move on.

All this is pure speculation of course, but just my view of a situation that has been out of hand for quite some time.

As always, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

[seohug]

I see this as a nail in the coffin for WF. Seriously, I love WF and bought way more services than I can remember. I sold some, but I primarly a buyer here. Here are problems I see ahead, if you care to know:

# The fee is too high for South East Asian providers. Many of which I have seen fab providers at really low prices.
>> $5 is reasonable and enough to turn away most of junk we've seen here. Plus it helps new starters, new ideas with small pockets...etc.

# Closing the thread within 10 days will effectively kill the quality score of the service. Some services take around 20-30 days, without including late delivery. If that's closed or the scammer run away, they can start a new one and scam even more, especially with a new service.
>> Keep the thread as long as there is interest from anyone other than OP and have a recurring monthly payment in place.

# Closing existing threads just sucked - big time. What happened to existing orders? people waiting? money spent? those who don't want start paying for a new thread?
>> Open active threads.

Just trying to get over the latest Panda and now this.

[liquids]

Originally Posted by flx89

My vote goes for this system:

50$ monthly fee and thread goes live and never gets deleted.

If any moderator can answer to the question we all have in mind right now....

WHAT'S THE POINT OF DELETING THREADS AFTER A FEW DAYS???

i agree with him.

[qualo]

Just read one of the new threads- there was a review request from a noob with 8 posts lol. before that a whole page of sales pitch which I read weeks ago. This is a waste of buyers time and a raping of seller's asses.

Time to migrate to the other forum for services and just bookmark the quality sellers websites/sales pages.

I have a feeling this might improve other areas of this forum though (less noob/wannabie providers traffic)

[davidb]

Read Before Posting: Pet Peeves That Will Probably Get You In Trouble

Putting emails in threads. I like to ban dumbasses that do this. If you can't keep business on WickedFire - the place where you're selling - then you can just go away.

I'm don't mean just add your email or Skype in BST. I mean use BST to promote your services and to keep promoting your services, but once someone has purchased your service and they are happy with your service, then you have a happy customer which is a very valuable thing.

If it is against the rules on WF then don't list the information in the thread. But if you do not have a way for an existing customer to contact you and say wickedfire were down for a few days or longer, what would you do then?

A happy paying customer who will come back for more is a very valuable thing. But they need to be able to contact you.

Plus not all communication is done via the thread. A lot of the information is private, so you either need to us WF's PM, Skype, Email, or some other way of communicating.

[firstpagegoogle]

Why not...

10 days - $15
1 month - $35
3 months - $100
6 months - $150
lifetime - $250

If you buy the lifetime, your probably legit, no?

Bumping: Every 5 posts = bump or Normal Bumping (if people are talking about it, it's probably popular - make it so the OPs posts can't bump his/her own thread)
Threads: Close when membership ends, to reactivate that specific thread you just buy a new membership

The current system won't get rid of scammer, who ever thought that is a fucking idiot. All it will do is raise peoples prices and increase scammers. You will start seeing BS threads like "1,000 Google + Dripped over 90 days" of course after 10 days, the thread closes that scam fuck gets his money and opens a new thread to repeat, after doing that a couple times, leaves or makes a new account with a new BS service. You would think I am talking about Wa....Forum... at this point...

What about people that have services like mine that are legit, but take up to 90 days? I have seen others that can take up to a month and more. Why would people take the risk on services like ours? That is all it would be in a the end, a huge risk.

[zingo]

Originally Posted by mx=headroom

To me this seems like an easy way to basically kill the SBT section, so no more whining about it if it doesn't exist. Sellers not happy about the fees and the 10 day threads. Buyers not happy that there will be no reviews and wary of purchasing anything. If a seller puts up the cash for a thread and no one buys, how long will they continue to throw money down the drain before they give up and move on.

I have voiced this very thing to the admins in the mod section. I want this place to thrive as much as everyone else, and 10 days then thread locking will crush many good providers as well as hinder new providers from signing up or being able to establish there service.

All new changes take time to tweak, I am suggesting to extend the time before a thread locks or make it perm, this is an easy fix to the current setup and would promote a more healthy SBT.

[ethan4jobs]

It cost more than warrior forum LOL keep going admin, you planned to became millionaire with in 10 days. you rocking

[-joe-]

Originally Posted by mx=headroom

I'm not Jon so I can't speak for him, but if I were to guess it's not about the money. This is about everyone bitching left and right about the quality of the SBT section, or lack there of. Everyone bitching about everyone, people outright stealing and repurposing packages, having to assign Zingo to moderate the section, dealing with everyone whining via PM.

To me this seems like an easy way to basically kill the SBT section, so no more whining about it if it doesn't exist. Sellers not happy about the fees and the 10 day threads. Buyers not happy that there will be no reviews and wary of purchasing anything. If a seller puts up the cash for a thread and no one buys, how long will they continue to throw money down the drain before they give up and move on.

All this is pure speculation of course, but just my view of a situation that has been out of hand for quite some time.

As always, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

Yeah, I wondered that too. It's a shame though, most of the junk is coming from the people who can afford the fees, the people from the west selling packages of 10 web 2.0s brokered from fiverr for $25. And the annoying thing is, people are buying them, not just newbies, I've seen established members buy this bullshit. Far more people from India/Pakistan/Phillippines are providing quality, nicely priced services than people over here. The only place for new sellers from those countries to start now really is DP, which is just full of shitty services, with not a lot of buyers.

Personally, I feel the solution is to keep it the way it was, and firstly, use someone on here's suggestion of a skype interview to verify them, and secondly, add more moderation. Don't get me wrong, Zingo does an excellent job of moderating here, probably one of the best I know (and I'm not just ass-kissing), but to be honest, it's too much to ask of one person, there's just far too many posts every day.

[casinobonus24]

This 10 day solution is genius and opens the gates for:

1) hit-and-run 10 day threads. 9 days of lovely reviews and from 10th on no renewal, collect payments and run away with the cash.

2) fake reviews. Providers will come up with pre-reviews etc. and fuck on the 10 days just to get some reviews in by guys they know. Well done.

3) kill new providers with cheaper services. Think what's happening in Greece is tough ? Take a look on India next week.

4) more work for admins who don't give a fuck as they don't get paid - guaranteed some threads will take longer to open than they stay open due to work overload.

5) killing reviews in the thread - best way to mix up the shit with the good stuff

Seriously this is probably one of the biggest mistakes ever made here on WF in my opinion. Closes the gates for both clients and providers for solid business / reviews / getting well reputed threads.

[botwiz]

Not to point any fingers, but there were ppl that didn't get effected by this which I personally think is bull shit!

[secretagentdad]

I totally support this set up.
If you want cheap shit go on fiver. This could go a long way towards cleaning up the other sections of the forum.

[Your_Pal]

Originally Posted by ethan4jobs

It cost more than warrior forum LOL keep going admin, you planned to became millionaire with in 10 days. you rocking

you dickhead Jon don't give a fuck to this money and if he used to give why the fuck he DID NOT publish ads for bunch of hungry companies begging to publish their ads here?

[eliquid]

Originally Posted by botwiz

Not to point any fingers, but there were ppl that didn't get effected by this which I personally think is bull shit!

Yeah, whats up with unlocked ( not closed ) sales threads in the BST still running strong with new posts as of today but they are not on a new thread for their service?

I see several old BST treads running fine right now and didnt have to close down and start a new thread...

[flx89]

Let's



we have to protest. Really

[Meatytreats]

Maybe he grandfathered them... LMAO!

[seofactory]

Originally Posted by flx89

Let's



we have to protest. Really

Agree.

[Jon]

Why am I not surprised that people who have been making thousands of dollars a month selling services on here, taking full advantage of there being NO cost until now and from this place having the least amount of fraud and scams than all other forums combined, are suddenly up in arms about having to pay anything.... If you don't agree or like it, go to any of the other places that exist and sell there. No one is stopping you, trust me on that.

I never once claimed that this is the only place that you need to sell or buy at. Nor will I ever, because I absolutely believe that there is not one place that is the end all be all place to buy and sell on the internet.

If the model we have now doesn't work out, we'll change it and adapt to the market so that we can make it work first for us from a time and resource perspective and then from a market perspective, all the while, within our means.

There are plenty of really big and expensive solutions I could apply here that would make this section bigger and better than anything in existence today. But I'm not willing to make that type of investment on my own. The amount of work, effort, and cash alone make it a daunting task. If the point of WickedFire was to make us money and nothing else, then the choice would be quite clear and that's the route I'd go. But its not. Nor will it ever be. Instead, I alluded to partnering with another, much more in-depth and professional third party service that I know of that can do just that, but also compliment our goals here and yours too. However, unfortunately for you guys and perhaps us a bit, that partnership is not absolutely inked yet. They have to accommodate us, and in order to do so, they need to make certain changes to do so. The day that they are ready to roll, that is the day it will be available here and things will really change. Their focus is purely to be a buying and selling platform and nothing more or less. They are neutral from the buyers and sellers, just like we are neutral here from all business between affs and networks and advertisers and everyone else.

Back onto this topic here, stop complaining. If you sell something and you really can't make over $100 a month from it, then this place is not for you. For everyone else that sees how this is a good deal and realizes how they can actually increase their sales volume and revenue and at the same time reduce the friction that fraud, previews and defaming from their competitors here causes.

Its not a perfect solution, and it wasn't supposed to be. Remember that. If you work WITH us then that type of environment helps everyone. If your goal is to sell bullshit and then bitch about how bad we are, then there are so many options elsewhere to choose from and you don't belong here. But if you realize that this is a good plan, and can respect the change, then you are going to certainly continue making money while providing a good business service.

For everyone else who disagrees, tell your God, because he's handling customer support right now for the people who just want to voice their stupid thoughts. I'm sure he has nothing better to do than address your opinions and concern.

[adnanfirdous]

Originally Posted by seohug

I see this as a nail in the coffin for WF. Seriously, I love WF and bought way more services than I can remember. I sold some, but I primarly a buyer here. Here are problems I see ahead, if you care to know:

# The fee is too high for South East Asian providers. Many of which I have seen fab providers at really low prices.
>> $5 is reasonable and enough to turn away most of junk we've seen here. Plus it helps new starters, new ideas with small pockets...etc.

# Closing the thread within 10 days will effectively kill the quality score of the service. Some services take around 20-30 days, without including late delivery. If that's closed or the scammer run away, they can start a new one and scam even more, especially with a new service.
>> Keep the thread as long as there is interest from anyone other than OP and have a recurring monthly payment in place.

# Closing existing threads just sucked - big time. What happened to existing orders? people waiting? money spent? those who don't want start paying for a new thread?
>> Open active threads.

Just trying to get over the latest Panda and now this.

Originally Posted by firstpagegoogle

Why not...

10 days - $15
1 month - $35
3 months - $100
6 months - $150
lifetime - $250

If you buy the lifetime, your probably legit, no?

Bumping: Every 5 posts = bump or Normal Bumping (if people are talking about it, it's probably popular - make it so the OPs posts can't bump his/her own thread)
Threads: Close when membership ends, to reactivate that specific thread you just buy a new membership

The current system won't get rid of scammer, who ever thought that is a fucking idiot. All it will do is raise peoples prices and increase scammers. You will start seeing BS threads like "1,000 Google + Dripped over 90 days" of course after 10 days, the thread closes that scam fuck gets his money and opens a new thread to repeat, after doing that a couple times, leaves or makes a new account with a new BS service. You would think I am talking about Wa....Forum... at this point...

What about people that have services like mine that are legit, but take up to 90 days? I have seen others that can take up to a month and more. Why would people take the risk on services like ours? That is all it would be in a the end, a huge risk.

Originally Posted by casinobonus24

This 10 day solution is genius and opens the gates for:

1) hit-and-run 10 day threads. 9 days of lovely reviews and from 10th on no renewal, collect payments and run away with the cash.

2) fake reviews. Providers will come up with pre-reviews etc. and fuck on the 10 days just to get some reviews in by guys they know. Well done.

3) kill new providers with cheaper services. Think what's happening in Greece is tough ? Take a look on India next week.

4) more work for admins who don't give a fuck as they don't get paid - guaranteed some threads will take longer to open than they stay open due to work overload.

5) killing reviews in the thread - best way to mix up the shit with the good stuff

Seriously this is probably one of the biggest mistakes ever made here on WF in my opinion. Closes the gates for both clients and providers for solid business / reviews / getting well reputed threads.

Now I am getting worried!

[Grindstone]

Originally Posted by eliquid

Yeah, whats up with unlocked ( not closed ) sales threads in the BST still running strong with new posts as of today but they are not on a new thread for their service?

I see several old BST treads running fine right now and didnt have to close down and start a new thread...

JB, totally guessing here but it looks like threads started in the last 10 days are live, older ones are not? Again, just a guess. I have no insider knowledge.

[flx89]

I agree to pay the fee. Even if it's 100$/month, but, WHY THE THREADS HAVE TO BE CLOSED EVERY 10 DAYS?

That's the only thing we don't get it. Let us pay 100$/month, but leave the threads as they are. Never close them. Some services even have 15 days TAT, what should they do?

Originally Posted by Jon

Why am I not surprised that people who have been making thousands of dollars a month selling services on here, taking full advantage of there being NO cost until now and from this place having the least amount of fraud and scams than all other forums combined, are suddenly up in arms about having to pay anything.... If you don't agree or like it, go to any of the other places that exist and sell there. No one is stopping you, trust me on that.

I never once claimed that this is the only place that you need to sell or buy at. Nor will I ever, because I absolutely believe that there is not one place that is the end all be all place to buy and sell on the internet.

If the model we have now doesn't work out, we'll change it and adapt to the market so that we can make it work first for us from a time and resource perspective and then from a market perspective, all the while, within our means.

There are plenty of really big and expensive solutions I could apply here that would make this section bigger and better than anything in existence today. But I'm not willing to make that type of investment on my own. The amount of work, effort, and cash alone make it a daunting task. If the point of WickedFire was to make us money and nothing else, then the choice would be quite clear and that's the route I'd go. But its not. Nor will it ever be. Instead, I alluded to partnering with another, much more in-depth and professional third party service that I know of that can do just that, but also compliment our goals here and yours too. However, unfortunately for you guys and perhaps us a bit, that partnership is not absolutely inked yet. They have to accommodate us, and in order to do so, they need to make certain changes to do so. The day that they are ready to roll, that is the day it will be available here and things will really change. Their focus is purely to be a buying and selling platform and nothing more or less. They are neutral from the buyers and sellers, just like we are neutral here from all business between affs and networks and advertisers and everyone else.

Back onto this topic here, stop complaining. If you sell something and you really can't make over $100 a month from it, then this place is not for you. For everyone else that sees how this is a good deal and realizes how they can actually increase their sales volume and revenue and at the same time reduce the friction that fraud, previews and defaming from their competitors here causes.

Its not a perfect solution, and it wasn't supposed to be. Remember that. If you work WITH us then that type of environment helps everyone. If your goal is to sell bullshit and then bitch about how bad we are, then there are so many options elsewhere to choose from and you don't belong here. But if you realize that this is a good plan, and can respect the change, then you are going to certainly continue making money while providing a good business service.

For everyone else who disagrees, tell your God, because he's handling customer support right now for the people who just want to voice their stupid thoughts. I'm sure he has nothing better to do than address your opinions and concern.

[SEO_WAN]

Originally Posted by Jon

Why am I not surprised that people who have been making thousands of dollars a month selling services on here, taking full advantage of there being NO cost until now and from this place having the least amount of fraud and scams than all other forums combined, are suddenly up in arms about having to pay anything.... If you don't agree or like it, go to any of the other places that exist and sell there. No one is stopping you, trust me on that.

I never once claimed that this is the only place that you need to sell or buy at. Nor will I ever, because I absolutely believe that there is not one place that is the end all be all place to buy and sell on the internet.

If the model we have now doesn't work out, we'll change it and adapt to the market so that we can make it work first for us from a time and resource perspective and then from a market perspective, all the while, within our means.

There are plenty of really big and expensive solutions I could apply here that would make this section bigger and better than anything in existence today. But I'm not willing to make that type of investment on my own. The amount of work, effort, and cash alone make it a daunting task. If the point of WickedFire was to make us money and nothing else, then the choice would be quite clear and that's the route I'd go. But its not. Nor will it ever be. Instead, I alluded to partnering with another, much more in-depth and professional third party service that I know of that can do just that, but also compliment our goals here and yours too. However, unfortunately for you guys and perhaps us a bit, that partnership is not absolutely inked yet. They have to accommodate us, and in order to do so, they need to make certain changes to do so. The day that they are ready to roll, that is the day it will be available here and things will really change. Their focus is purely to be a buying and selling platform and nothing more or less. They are neutral from the buyers and sellers, just like we are neutral here from all business between affs and networks and advertisers and everyone else.

Back onto this topic here, stop complaining. If you sell something and you really can't make over $100 a month from it, then this place is not for you. For everyone else that sees how this is a good deal and realizes how they can actually increase their sales volume and revenue and at the same time reduce the friction that fraud, previews and defaming from their competitors here causes.

Its not a perfect solution, and it wasn't supposed to be. Remember that. If you work WITH us then that type of environment helps everyone. If your goal is to sell bullshit and then bitch about how bad we are, then there are so many options elsewhere to choose from and you don't belong here. But if you realize that this is a good plan, and can respect the change, then you are going to certainly continue making money while providing a good business service.

For everyone else who disagrees, tell your God, because he's handling customer support right now for the people who just want to voice their stupid thoughts. I'm sure he has nothing better to do than address your opinions and concern.

I hope that it will work and we should accept it,as Jon has mentioned that if it will not work then they will modify it.

[slickymedia]

I was worried why my thread was closed.

[mdk1721]

Ok here is my opinion(if it matters):

Good idea to start charging, gets all the rif raf out. But someone did not think this through. Starting new threads? Whats that about? Simple, pay a monthly fee to post ads, say $30/month and pay per bump of $5-10 per bump. Solves the $ issue and you dont have to start new threads all the time. And 10 days is way too short for anyone to do real sales.

JMO but if this does not change I cannot justify doing things over and over and over like re-posting the same thread when all we should have to to is pay to bump it up.

Thanks

[capone2009]

Still don't get it.. You say you don't need the money you make from this but still you don't like the idea of a one-time fee.. It would make everything much easier and still weed out the one day sellers

[PHXSEO]

Well looks like I won't be doing business here anymore. I understand charging for threads, but $36 for 10 days? C'mon that's ridiculous.

I personally think it should be $10 per thread, and it goes for at least 14 days or 30 days, and only members with X amount of posts should be allowed to make BST threads.

[absolute]

Or just make it a subscription. Hell, make it $200/month and leave the threads open for as long as the owner continues paying.

Not that many people are complaining about having to pay a fee. They're mostly concerned about having to make new threads every 10 days. It turns SBT into a classified ads section.

WF rocks.

[ofertareonline]

Originally Posted by flx89

I agree to pay the fee. Even if it's 100$/month, but, ...

Be very careful what you are wishing ...

[jeffrey]

Originally Posted by PHXSEO

Well looks like I won't be doing business here anymore. I understand charging for threads, but $36 for 10 days? C'mon that's ridiculous.

I personally think it should be $10 per thread, and it goes for at least 14 days or 30 days, and only members with X amount of posts should be allowed to make BST threads.

It's fine the way it is.

Oh yeah, it's working too guys. The shit service providers seem to be leaving.

[fatmoocow]

No one gives a shit about the money.

All we're asking for is to retain the sales history, feedback, bookmarks, etc. that keeping a thread alive would allow.

The whole point of this was to remove the garbage, locking threads every 10 days makes the garbage look exactly like the established sellers that have their shit together.

[eliquid]

i dont mind paying $100 a month, or $36.. hell I even mentioned $1k lifetime eariler...

but WTF about the 10 days making new threads? Not one person has answered the 10 days make a new thread thing. Shit, if its about charging us, make a Paypal sub every 10 days, but why make a new thread and close down prior?

[glemoh]

Originally Posted by seohug

I see this as a nail in the coffin for WF. Seriously, I love WF and bought way more services than I can remember. I sold some, but I primarly a buyer here. Here are problems I see ahead, if you care to know:

# The fee is too high for South East Asian providers. Many of which I have seen fab providers at really low prices.
>> $5 is reasonable and enough to turn away most of junk we've seen here. Plus it helps new starters, new ideas with small pockets...etc.

# Closing the thread within 10 days will effectively kill the quality score of the service. Some services take around 20-30 days, without including late delivery. If that's closed or the scammer run away, they can start a new one and scam even more, especially with a new service.
>> Keep the thread as long as there is interest from anyone other than OP and have a recurring monthly payment in place.

# Closing existing threads just sucked - big time. What happened to existing orders? people waiting? money spent? those who don't want start paying for a new thread?
>> Open active threads.

Just trying to get over the latest Panda and now this.

i agree with you and i think every one will say the same

[seodon]

Originally Posted by flx89

I agree to pay the fee. Even if it's 100$/month, but, WHY THE THREADS HAVE TO BE CLOSED EVERY 10 DAYS?

That's the only thing we don't get it. Let us pay 100$/month, but leave the threads as they are. Never close them. Some services even have 15 days TAT, what should they do?

^^^I agree
Yes we do agree with Jon, the problem here is why the thread have to be closed every 10 days because we do lot of stuff to build reputation in service threads, even many providers are running their threads for years what will they do....Instead they can charge the same $36 on every 10 days to run their threads...
May be Jon can think on this point.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by fatmoocow

No one gives a shit about the money.

All we're asking for is to retain the sales history, feedback, bookmarks, etc. that keeping a thread alive would allow.

The whole point of this was to remove the garbage, locking threads every 10 days makes the garbage look exactly like the established sellers that have their shit together.

That's arguable, if you look at the whiners only people that complaint are people who are just too lazy to Copy-paste from their old threads or Indian providers with shit margins. There's iTrader for feedback and each of the testimonials you quote link back to the old posts that are never deleted.

Just think of the current system similar to Ebay/craigslist, everytime you want to sell an item you list it for a fee/free.

There's another option but Jon already covered that.

[BitWriter]

TL;DR - We are fine with paying $100/month or whatever to sell here. Just let us keep one thread open instead of having to create a new one every ten days.

[cowsgonemad]

What if someone wants to post a "WANT TO BUY" thread?

[dchuk]

Originally Posted by cowsgonemad

What if someone wants to post a "WANT TO BUY" thread?

[botwiz]

Originally Posted by flx89

Some services even have 15 days TAT, what should they do?

Agreed that would make me leery as a buyer.

[GoldenGlovez]

I'm all for paid BST section. However, I'll have to add in against the currently proposed 10 day rule. I'd prefer to see a 30 day option to keep and maintain a BST thread. Additionally, I feel automatic locking of the thread will open many more scamming opportunities.

[casinobonus24]

One more thing came into my mind. I bet this will end up in a TON of paypal disputes with people going like 'hey I did not sell I want my money back'.

I would love to hear some arguments favouring the 10 day rule by the way.