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mrvolleyball · 07-04-2006, 05:07 AM

I'm looking to quickly setup a couple of new simple content based sites, that will hopefully eventually earn some money.

Should I set them up using:
Wordpress - I believe this will be the quickest method to setup and update
or
a 'proper' site (it would be based on a free template as I have the design flair of a bunch of hedgehogs kept in a bag in the bottom of a cupboard i.e. not very much) I could then plugin a CMS for updating it.

If I go with wordpress I'd still be using a bought domain name and hosting it myself.

Would people think less of the site if it looks like a blog, would it look less professional, have less potential to earn money?

Any thoughts , advantages, disadvantages are appreciated.

Giles · 07-04-2006, 08:19 AM

I'm using WP on my only content site and it is great!
God bless WP.
You will love the billions of plugins (sitemaps, adsense, social bookmarking, quick edit in javascript and more). Thousands of templates. SEO friendly URLs. To see how my WordPress content site works for me read my publisher blog, and to see the site iteslf visit photographer tips (links in siggy).

mrvolleyball · 07-04-2006, 09:03 AM

Looks good, well have a go with Wordpress I think and see how I get on.

Thanks

jonjon · 07-04-2006, 09:17 AM

Really wish somone would come up with some niche plugins for wordpress to integrate things like local portals, recipes, etc. - don't know if i can describe it properly but, make it more like a recipe script (plugin) - where you can have users enter recipes into a form and you can manage it - it would also layout the information and photos in a uniform way for each post..

It could really be a platform for anything - but just needs tweaking in certain directions for functionality of the niche you are working in..if any of this makes sense.

g1c9 · 07-04-2006, 09:39 AM

thing is - wordpress is a blogging solution, and just that.

I'm not sure recipies and photo galleries are all too relevant. Other CMS's though, can be integrated.

figurine · 07-04-2006, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giles

You will love the billions of plugins (sitemaps, adsense, social bookmarking, quick edit in javascript and more). Thousands of templates. SEO friendly URLs.

Could you give me a link to a good sitemap plugin for WordPress, because I've looked around and I can't find a decent one yet.

jonjon · 07-04-2006, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g1c9

thing is - wordpress is a blogging solution, and just that.

I'm not sure recipies and photo galleries are all too relevant. Other CMS's though, can be integrated.

True - but it just saves time and learning curve if it can be incorporated into something you already know.. time/money thing..

peach · 07-04-2006, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonjon

Really wish somone would come up with some niche plugins for wordpress to integrate things like local portals, recipes, etc. - don't know if i can describe it properly but, make it more like a recipe script (plugin) - where you can have users enter recipes into a form and you can manage it - it would also layout the information and photos in a uniform way for each post..

It could really be a platform for anything - but just needs tweaking in certain directions for functionality of the niche you are working in..if any of this makes sense.

Wordpress isn't the only good open source software in the world.
Check out this, or if drupal seems to scary for you, check this.

Wordpress is awesome at what is does, blogging, old skool blogging. But if you want to go beyond that there are much more powerful tools with more versatile functionality and plugins.

peach · 07-04-2006, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonjon

Really wish somone would come up with some niche plugins for wordpress to integrate things like local portals, recipes, etc. - don't know if i can describe it properly but, make it more like a recipe script (plugin) - where you can have users enter recipes into a form and you can manage it - it would also layout the information and photos in a uniform way for each post..

It could really be a platform for anything - but just needs tweaking in certain directions for functionality of the niche you are working in..if any of this makes sense.

Wordpress isn't the only good open source software in the world.
Check out this, or if drupal seems to scary for you, check this.

Wordpress is awesome at what is does, blogging, old skool blogging. But if you want to go beyond that there are much more powerful tools with more versatile functionality and plugins.

mrvolleyball · 07-04-2006, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by figurine

Could you give me a link to a good sitemap plugin for WordPress, because I've looked around and I can't find a decent one yet.

No idea if these are any good but:

http://www.arnebrachhold.de/2005/06/...rator-v2-final

http://www.dagondesign.com/articles/...for-wordpress/

JDA · 07-04-2006, 06:41 PM

I use Wordpress for a couple of standalone sites, really simplifies things in my opinion.

Giles · 07-04-2006, 07:13 PM

I'm using http://www.arnebrachhold.de/2005/06/...rator-v2-final

Also. I use WordPress becuase my sitesare content and wordpress is good at managing content. If I was to make some sort of community website with submitted content I would probably use Drupal, even though it pissses me off.

Uzzz · 07-07-2006, 08:30 PM

Hey does anyone use any good wordpress resource sites? *specifically template sites. Any particular good ones you use when doing content sites?

Giles · 07-07-2006, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uzzz

Hey does anyone use any good wordpress resource sites? *specifically template sites. Any particular good ones you use when doing content sites?

I always use this when looking for themes becuase it actually previws them as they are:
http://www.alexking.org/software/wor...me_browser.php

wfhnow · 07-09-2006, 09:17 PM

So Wordpress is better then Blogger?

Just wondering on a scale of 1 to 10 what would you give wordpress and blogger? I'm currently using blogger but from what it sounds is that wordpress is pretty good. I dont think blogger have all the plugins as wordpress.

rob

JDA · 07-09-2006, 10:13 PM

My advice would be to get off of Blogger as soon as possible. It makes things a lot more flexible to own your own domain.

J-Tag · 07-09-2006, 10:45 PM

Blogger's a 1 and WordPress is an 8.

I've tried making sites on Blogger. Doesn't turn out well unless you're just using the blogger platform and faking having a very small regular site (aka not chronological, and linking directly to your posts [not dynamically]). It's hella buggy, doesn't let you have categories, and you have to have a giant-ass bar running along the top of the browser window (if they're hosting)--and who wants that?

revlimiter · 07-10-2006, 12:24 AM

Yeah, I have redesigned countless blogs for Real Estate Clients at work and Blogger is complete crap to work with. I would give Blogger a 5.5/10 and WordPress a 9.5/10. Both are free but WordPress is soo much better, faster, and easier to use.

You would not believe how many hours I have wasted waiting for Blogger to load a page, or republish an index file. Oh and don't use TypePad.. that thing costs money and doesn't even let you play with the CSS lol

Peter · 07-10-2006, 03:51 AM

I use Wordpress for blogs, If I'm creating a content site for a niche I'll build it myself.

John · 07-10-2006, 04:12 AM

The only problem I have with wordpress sites is they all look the same.

emp · 07-10-2006, 04:36 AM

Blogger can be a bitch at times, yes.

No, you do NOT have to have the bar running around the top, you can just switch that off.

The worst thing is the lack of categories. If you have a blog that runs around multiple topics and / or has very short posts, adsense gets confused. Having categorized pages helps the algorithm.

The "all those sites look the same" is a problem every CMS has. It does take work to get a template up and running smoothly, so most people tend to go with free or default.

::emp::

wfhnow · 07-10-2006, 10:38 AM

Great points....I only have one blog on blogger thats doing pretty good think i would be hard to transfer over. Have and ideas to transfer over anyone??

emp · 07-10-2006, 10:55 AM

Facing the same problem. What I did is leave the old posts where they are, move the index page to a new spot, link to it and just start addingnew and fresh content using the new system.

::emp::

Uzzz · 07-10-2006, 03:09 PM

im pretty sure you can transfer over posts with wordpress, if thats what your talking about.

wfhnow · 07-11-2006, 12:54 AM

Yea i was talking about that but i more worry about my rankings in google just got of the sandbox

07-04-2006, 05:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
mrvolleyball Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 72 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Wordpress vs standalone site I'm looking to quickly setup a couple of new simple content based sites, that will hopefully eventually earn some money. Should I set them up using: Wordpress - I believe this will be the quickest method to setup and update or a 'proper' site (it would be based on a free template as I have the design flair of a bunch of hedgehogs kept in a bag in the bottom of a cupboard i.e. not very much) I could then plugin a CMS for updating it. If I go with wordpress I'd still be using a bought domain name and hosting it myself. Would people think less of the site if it looks like a blog, would it look less professional, have less potential to earn money? Any thoughts , advantages, disadvantages are appreciated. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-04-2006, 08:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
Giles Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wanganui, New Zealand Posts: 139 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I'm using WP on my only content site and it is great! God bless WP. You will love the billions of plugins (sitemaps, adsense, social bookmarking, quick edit in javascript and more). Thousands of templates. SEO friendly URLs. To see how my WordPress content site works for me read my publisher blog, and to see the site iteslf visit photographer tips (links in siggy). Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-04-2006, 09:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
mrvolleyball Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 72 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Looks good, well have a go with Wordpress I think and see how I get on. Thanks Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-04-2006, 09:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
jonjon Blathering Toad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 57 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Really wish somone would come up with some niche plugins for wordpress to integrate things like local portals, recipes, etc. - don't know if i can describe it properly but, make it more like a recipe script (plugin) - where you can have users enter recipes into a form and you can manage it - it would also layout the information and photos in a uniform way for each post.. It could really be a platform for anything - but just needs tweaking in certain directions for functionality of the niche you are working in..if any of this makes sense. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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g1c9 06 Time Person of le Year Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MERICA Posts: 987 iTrader: 11 / 92%	thing is - wordpress is a blogging solution, and just that. I'm not sure recipies and photo galleries are all too relevant. Other CMS's though, can be integrated. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ 10,000+ Directory Submissions \| FREE if Late! \| 1,000+ PR3+

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JDA Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 721 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I use Wordpress for a couple of standalone sites, really simplifies things in my opinion. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

07-04-2006, 07:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
Giles Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wanganui, New Zealand Posts: 139 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I'm using http://www.arnebrachhold.de/2005/06/...rator-v2-final Also. I use WordPress becuase my sitesare content and wordpress is good at managing content. If I was to make some sort of community website with submitted content I would probably use Drupal, even though it pissses me off. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-07-2006, 08:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
Uzzz Death im yur Bitch Lover! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada, T.O Posts: 1,946 iTrader: 13 / 100%	Hey does anyone use any good wordpress resource sites? *specifically template sites. Any particular good ones you use when doing content sites? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-09-2006, 09:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
wfhnow Work From Home Now Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,388 iTrader: 0 / 0%	So Wordpress is better then Blogger? Just wondering on a scale of 1 to 10 what would you give wordpress and blogger? I'm currently using blogger but from what it sounds is that wordpress is pretty good. I dont think blogger have all the plugins as wordpress. rob Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-09-2006, 10:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
JDA Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 721 iTrader: 0 / 0%	My advice would be to get off of Blogger as soon as possible. It makes things a lot more flexible to own your own domain. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

07-09-2006, 10:45 PM	#17 (permalink)
J-Tag They call him Danger Man! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cananada Posts: 391 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Blogger's a 1 and WordPress is an 8. I've tried making sites on Blogger. Doesn't turn out well unless you're just using the blogger platform and faking having a very small regular site (aka not chronological, and linking directly to your posts [not dynamically]). It's hella buggy, doesn't let you have categories, and you have to have a giant-ass bar running along the top of the browser window (if they're hosting)--and who wants that? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Video Game Cheats "If my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN" UFC \| Movie Contests

07-10-2006, 12:24 AM	#18 (permalink)
revlimiter $333.33/day is my goal! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vancouver Island, British Columbia Posts: 261 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yeah, I have redesigned countless blogs for Real Estate Clients at work and Blogger is complete crap to work with. I would give Blogger a 5.5/10 and WordPress a 9.5/10. Both are free but WordPress is soo much better, faster, and easier to use. You would not believe how many hours I have wasted waiting for Blogger to load a page, or republish an index file. Oh and don't use TypePad.. that thing costs money and doesn't even let you play with the CSS lol Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Google Adsense \| Google Adwords

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Peter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 193 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I use Wordpress for blogs, If I'm creating a content site for a niche I'll build it myself. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-10-2006, 04:12 AM	#20 (permalink)
John Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sewageville Posts: 4,929 iTrader: 6 / 100%	The only problem I have with wordpress sites is they all look the same. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-10-2006, 04:36 AM	#21 (permalink)
emp Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,977 iTrader: 17 / 100%	Blogger can be a bitch at times, yes. No, you do NOT have to have the bar running around the top, you can just switch that off. The worst thing is the lack of categories. If you have a blog that runs around multiple topics and / or has very short posts, adsense gets confused. Having categorized pages helps the algorithm. The "all those sites look the same" is a problem every CMS has. It does take work to get a template up and running smoothly, so most people tend to go with free or default. ::emp:: Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-10-2006, 10:38 AM	#22 (permalink)
wfhnow Work From Home Now Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,388 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Great points....I only have one blog on blogger thats doing pretty good think i would be hard to transfer over. Have and ideas to transfer over anyone?? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-10-2006, 10:55 AM	#23 (permalink)
emp Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,977 iTrader: 17 / 100%	Facing the same problem. What I did is leave the old posts where they are, move the index page to a new spot, link to it and just start addingnew and fresh content using the new system. ::emp:: Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-10-2006, 03:09 PM	#24 (permalink)
Uzzz Death im yur Bitch Lover! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada, T.O Posts: 1,946 iTrader: 13 / 100%	im pretty sure you can transfer over posts with wordpress, if thats what your talking about. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-11-2006, 12:54 AM	#25 (permalink)
wfhnow Work From Home Now Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,388 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yea i was talking about that but i more worry about my rankings in google just got of the sandbox Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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