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Old 02-11-2012, 02:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Newbiealert Competing against Big/Old Sites

So I'm using UNF to research keywords and I'm wondering how accurate the competition analysis is. Like I'm finding a lot of longtails between 30-40 difficulty but when I search the front page is dominated by amazon, wikipedia, ehow, about.com etc. How hard is it to compete with these sites? I'm having trouble with the search function its giving me an error. Total noob here. Also how accurate is serpiq in determining difficulty of competition?
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Old 02-11-2012, 09:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Pretty sure as long as your more SEO optimized (title, description, etc) and have more powerful back links than those pages (not domain) that are ranked then you should take them over.
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It's usually not too difficult to beat out these types of sites as long as the your page has more links than theirs and is optimized for the keyword you are targeting.
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Thats what i was thinking. I saw a serp iq of 50 for a 4 word longtail and got discouraged because I'm a noob but looking at the top 10, it seems that the age and pagerank of the authority domains inflated the serpiq score when their actual result pages have low pr and few backlinks. So it should be easier than it looks because I'm targeting the longtail and they are targeting the root kw?
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Old 03-10-2012, 07:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Any time I see wikipedia on the front page (especially in the #1 spot) I take it as a sign of an easier niche.
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Pretty sure as long as your more SEO optimized (title, description, etc) and have more powerful back links than those pages (not domain) that are ranked then you should take them over.
Agreed, the age factor and authority factors are over rated, imo.


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It's usually not too difficult to beat out these types of sites as long as the your page has more links than theirs and is optimized for the keyword you are targeting.
That's right, you just need more targeted links and better seo than them.


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...So it should be easier than it looks because I'm targeting the longtail and they are targeting the root kw?
They are ranking there because Google saw the keyword somewhere for
them. However, it could also be said, that they are ranking there because
noone else it trying very hard.

Go get'em!

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Yes it is entirely possible to beat out sites that are much bigger and older than you. But it can be very hard. You need good seo, good targeted links. Depending on how old, and how big the site is its probably going to take a while to achieve such a goal. Possibly 6 months? (if your starting from scratch)
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I say go get them. As long as you are constant with your link building and adding quality content to your site during the build . It will take some time to get there, but if you are determined you can get it ranked. I found this case study very helpful, Boobspotter's 2000th Post . There is some serious knowledge in this study.
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lol theres some serious boobage in that study too. thanks
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