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Old 11-13-2007, 07:57 PM   #101 (permalink)
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No problemo!

thydot you need to be carfeul with what feeds you pick. The problem with autoblog is you can't really filter anything unlike wp-o-matic, but wp-o-matic doesn't give creditation to the original author. Someone should meld the two together. hmmmm.....

As for the posting thing, wp-autoblog searches for new posts on your feed everytime someone visits your blog.

Hope that helps, keep up the good work folks!
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:51 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Just want to say thanks for an awesome thread - think this is the 2nd time I've read it so far and I'm just about just jump head first into autoblogs - eeek! I've got a feeling that they won't make a lot of cash but enough to allow me to plough it into other ventures.

Bam Bam, you mentioned Pingoat earlier on in the thread? On their site it says that it's not out yet or something, how did you manage to get hold of it?
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Bam Bam, you mentioned Pingoat earlier on in the thread? On their site it says that it's not out yet or something, how did you manage to get hold of it?
Um scroll down on the site?
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:39 PM   #104 (permalink)
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What program do you suggest to do mass installs on sub-domains? I used bam-bams' script to setup WP, and now I want to find a program (preferably free) that will install it on my sub-domains. How about www.wp-installer.com ?

How many blogs/sub-domains do you think is too much on shared hosting? I'm using about 5-10 feeds per autoblog.


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You could try Wordpress MU.

It allows you to do exactly what you are looking for, without the hassle of creating subdomains by hand.
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i'm missing something...

if you are using wp-o-matic when should your blogs be auto updating?

is it when a user visits your site or automatically throughout the day?
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You could try Wordpress MU.

It allows you to do exactly what you are looking for, without the hassle of creating subdomains by hand.
have you or anyone heard of wordpress mu having hard time installing on 1and1 host?
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:33 PM   #108 (permalink)
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If wp-autoblog automatically pings the blog lists everytime it posts, surely you're very quickly going to get your sites banned from them?

The couple of test sites i have set up are pulling in a few hundred posts a day... aren't blog list sites are going to ban you when they see that many pings?

(Not sure if that is a lot of posts in a day? I suppose it depends on how many other blogs there are)

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Old 11-16-2007, 02:18 PM   #109 (permalink)
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I've had one or two autoblogs running for nearly 2 months and i've had no problems so far. $250 and counting!
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bam, do your feeds has full content?
I was trying to find a way to get the full content, including images, to make my page look less spammy.
But the full content usually has the author's name, will it make the page actually more spammy?
I have the same problem is there a fix for this?
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have you or anyone heard of wordpress mu having hard time installing on 1and1 host?
Does 1and1 have cpanel/WHM access? If so take a look at this tutorial of how to install MU. Takes you through step by step. You have to email tech support to edit one file but it shouldn't take long for a reply. I've set up two of my domains via this method.

Installing WordPress MU on a CPanel/WHM Server - Blogopreneur.com

WP MU is pretty impressive. Only have to install theme/plugins once then you have access to them every sub blog you set up.

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This one is the correct one....

These feeds work with Autoblog, but WPoMatic don't like them. I tried http:, feed: still no good. I'm going to try the OPML import.

Also, why are we using both plugins? They seem to serve the same purpose, except one has more options. Or did I miss something?

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Does 1and1 have cpanel/WHM access? If so take a look at this tutorial of how to install MU. Takes you through step by step. You have to email tech support to edit one file but it shouldn't take long for a reply. I've set up two of my domains via this method.

Installing WordPress MU on a CPanel/WHM Server - Blogopreneur.com

WP MU is pretty impressive. Only have to install theme/plugins once then you have access to them every sub blog you set up.

Let me know if you have any problems
Thanks for the help but I worked through it, the problem is "1and1" says they do not support "wildcard" or "catch all" for subdomains you have to create them by hand at least on the shared server I'm using. I can get the install to work and it creates new blogs but you can not access them.
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Today is a good day.

I now have 7 RSS Scrape & Blog sites working, should start to see some better results soon!
$4 cpm average from Google...pretty killer.
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had alot of fun reading this thread, alot of good ideas
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Anyone here ever had their adsense banned when placed on an autoblog?
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Anyone here ever had their adsense banned when placed on an autoblog?
not yet, but hostgator has sent me a couple of emails warning me about blog content...
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I think so... got an old one that's been ticking away for months, checked it recently and no ads showing.

No notification or anything, just no adsense showing on this blog.
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Only had my autoblogs running for a couple of days and wham got an email saying I had to remove certain content - I don't think I'm cut out for this kind of thing, should stick to white hat stuff.
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Hi,
I've tried bam bam's script and it works great except I always get a single space output after the keywords like this:

Technorati Search for: Your Mum ?authority=a4&language=en

Anyone know why?
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Sorry that fucked up, it should be

http://feeds.technorati.com/search/Lindsay+Lohan{space}?authority=a4&language=en

(where {space} is the space)
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that'll be a problem with my script, one sec and i'll check it out

edit: I couldn't find anything wrong, Smashed could you post the technorati part of the script onhere so i can see which one you are using?
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echo 'http://feeds.technorati.com/search/' . $keyword . '?authority=a4&language=en<br>';
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Something weird I just noticed is that it leaves these spaces for all of the feeds which are generated from my keywords.txt file except the last keyword - the feeds which are generated for the last keyword don't have any spaces in (they are correct).

edit: my code'll be here in a second
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You think it's possible to grab fulltext feeds instead of little snippets. Fulltext feeds would make killer autoblogs. Here's a great source for killer fulltext feeds:

keyword &laquo; WordPress.com Tag Feed

But somehow scraping fulltext posts from search results would be much better. I would pay good $$ for a script that did that....
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What's up with WP-o-Matic?

It doesn't want to take ANY kind of feed! I always get the red X sign at the end of the line when I try adding a feed.

Anyone has that problem too?

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You think it's possible to grab fulltext feeds instead of little snippets. Fulltext feeds would make killer autoblogs. Here's a great source for killer fulltext feeds:

keyword &laquo; WordPress.com Tag Feed

But somehow scraping fulltext posts from search results would be much better. I would pay good $$ for a script that did that....
Yeah, they'd also result in a lot more copyright complaints. Can't really claim fair use if you republish the whole post.

If you aren't concerned about trackback links you could just not attribute, but it's an ethical thing really. Regardless of (outdated or over-zealous) copyright laws it's just a case of treating others how you would like to be treated.
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Something weird I just noticed is that it leaves these spaces for all of the feeds which are generated from my keywords.txt file except the last keyword - the feeds which are generated for the last keyword don't have any spaces in (they are correct).

edit: my code'll be here in a second

check your keywords.txt to see if there is a space on each line after the keyword. if you copy/paste from a web page to a txt file, it will sometimes add spaces when you don't want them.
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Has anyone running auto blogs had any problems with google paying out?

Sometime today i will have made my first $100 with adsense off of them and i assume google's going to check out my sites before they pay me so im a little worried...
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check your keywords.txt to see if there is a space on each line after the keyword. if you copy/paste from a web page to a txt file, it will sometimes add spaces when you don't want them.
Thanks for the suggestion - I checked but there are no spaces.
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I've got a bunch of autoblogs running now, but traffic and CTR is pretty weak. I've run most of them through Eli's QUIT, where should I go from here? Is there a little bit of a window for things to get rolling? It's only been a few days.
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I've got a bunch of autoblogs running now, but traffic and CTR is pretty weak. I've run most of them through Eli's QUIT, where should I go from here? Is there a little bit of a window for things to get rolling? It's only been a few days.
According to Eli's post about SEO Empire (if I remember correctly ) autoblogs get most of their traffic from the trackbacks and not from SERPS.

What you could do to increase your traffic is to make sure you generate enough trackbacks to other blogs. After a while, since the autoblog self initiates the blog update, is like a snowball effect.
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WP-o-Matic and cron jobs... (hostgator)

for the life of me i cant get the jobs to run.

wp-o-matic says to put this in my cron tab:
*/10 * * * * /usr/bin/ftp http://sub.domain.com/wp-content/plu...n.php?code=101

tried it and doesn't update the blog

also tried:

/usr/local/bin/php /accountname/public_html/subdomain/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cron.php?code=101

/usr/bin/php /home/accountname/public_html/subdomain/wp-cron.php

ideas?
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According to Eli's post about SEO Empire (if I remember correctly ) autoblogs get most of their traffic from the trackbacks and not from SERPS.

What you could do to increase your traffic is to make sure you generate enough trackbacks to other blogs. After a while, since the autoblog self initiates the blog update, is like a snowball effect.
I think blog and ping as a model is dead/dying- antispam tools are getting too good, and people are less likely to visit trackbacks.
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I think blog and ping as a model is dead/dying- antispam tools are getting too good, and people are less likely to visit trackbacks.
I agree. But for the same reason you can't rank in the SERPS. As I see it autoblogs its just the beginning. You could go deeper and more complex and then try for the SERPs.
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WP-o-Matic and cron jobs... (hostgator)

for the life of me i cant get the jobs to run.

wp-o-matic says to put this in my cron tab:
*/10 * * * * /usr/bin/ftp http://sub.domain.com/wp-content/plu...n.php?code=101

tried it and doesn't update the blog

also tried:

/usr/local/bin/php /accountname/public_html/subdomain/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cron.php?code=101

/usr/bin/php /home/accountname/public_html/subdomain/wp-cron.php

ideas?

i found the answer to this issue. i asked hostgator to turn on curl then used the following command.

/usr/bin/curl
/accountname/public_html/subdomain/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cron.php?code=101


my blogs updated this morning
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I agree. But for the same reason you can't rank in the SERPS. As I see it autoblogs its just the beginning. You could go deeper and more complex and then try for the SERPs.
The trick is to not look like an autoblog, then you will do GREAT in the SERPS. I've got a PR5 autoblog that I am constantly getting blogroll requests from my niche in, because they dont realize it's a splog.

Customize your template, rewrite the RSS feeds, and you're in business.
Takes more time and doesn't scale, but it's worth it.
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I got wordpress MU working a few days back, but only in subdirectory form. Is it worth my time to contact hostgator (my host) and get them to add wildcard DNS stuff so I can use subdomains? Or should I just stick with subdirectories for the autoblogs?
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ok, so i got another DMCA notice today.

is this part of the game or am i missing something?
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Definitely part of the game. Remove their content, move on. I hope your hosting or domain is not with GoDaddy
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Definitely part of the game. Remove their content, move on. I hope your hosting or domain is not with GoDaddy
nope, some with gator and some with 1&1.


will GD ban your account real quick?
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The trick is to not look like an autoblog, then you will do GREAT in the SERPS. I've got a PR5 autoblog that I am constantly getting blogroll requests from my niche in, because they dont realize it's a splog.

Customize your template, rewrite the RSS feeds, and you're in business.
Takes more time and doesn't scale, but it's worth it.
Yes I agree with you and maybe is scalable as well. So you are using hooks from another script right?
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Godaddy will not only shut down your hosting, if it's with them, but they'll yank your domain. Get away from them as fast as you can.
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Well honestly the sites don't have to be big, nor do they have to be unique but they do have to be targeted, the only real problem with a site with no real unique content is they are hard to get indexed.

Have a look at one of my sites Hannah Montana that site has no unique content, its been up for just over a month and is not indexed in Google but averages 100 unique per day just from type in traffic from video submissions to YouTube, the audince are girls who like to chat and my return visitor count increases each and every day.

This particular site only makes about .50 cents per day and takes less then 2 minutes to update each week so .50 cents per day for 2 minutes of work per week isn't bad, you scale that up and your making decent cash for sites not even indexed.

How long is a real tough question, if you have a strong link building campaign and you can get your sites indexed for longer tail terms (A couple of them) which will eventually add up your traffic to get to that $1 per day mark it can take anywhere from 1 month to 6 months (Assuming your only waiting to get indexed).

If your paying for your traffic then your basically doing the new age arbitrage model and traffic will come a lot faster but with this model requires constant monitoring, you can take traffic from the 2nd tier and 3rd tier search engines you'll get cheap traffic but if it converts you only need to break a profit, for instance if you pay 5 cents for a visitor lets hope that click is worth more then 5 cents but also remembering your not going to have a 100% CTR, to be safe average your CTR to around 30%.

Its all about the math per time when doing this, you can do your math 100% correct but if you don't take into account the time required to pull it off you'll get frustrated after 1 month and not hitting your goal and give up.

Tip: No matter what happens don't ever give up. Let me rephrase that to something more strict. DONT EVER FUCKING GIVE UP.

Ok this may be a bit confusing cause its coming out of my head and my thoughts get twisted most times so I'll try to clean some things up.

Lets say you have an initial budget of $500 and you want to earn $200 per week, what you can do is spend $300 to buy 30 domains (Don't jump the gun here), and use the other $200 for traffic and some link building.

Now when you reach your goal of $200 per week the $500 initial investment will be very small on your part and you can use any additional cash to scale from there.

The time factor with this type of thing is something most don't talk about but if your going to do it right you'll have to spend your pre-research, this means you have to research each niche for each of the 30 sites, for each niche you'll have to research longer tail terms with almost no competition but with the highest search volume, every once and awhile you'll find some Gem terms by doing your research before buying your domain names.

I'll stop there but to put it simply if you have a good model you can earn that inside of 3 months assuming your aim for traffic is on the search engines, paid traffic is a bit more tricky but you'll get much faster returns.

Its an art and in order to capture that art you have to take time. Everything above is assuming you can code, design, and SEO your own sites (I do it all on my own it took me a long time to learn everything but it also saves me tons of cash, plus the skills gained earn me cash).

If this seems like too much and you consider yourself to be confident and have half a brain try looking into membership subscription sites, something you can charge $30 per month for, think about user generated content, think Friend Finder, Think Dating Sites, Think FaceBook, Think MySpace, then think of a niche that people will pay money for, will you charge them this fee for a service or to provide them content.

This is what I do now I don't really do any of the scaling tons of sites anymore I focus on stable longer term goals which continue to earn me money each and every month. If you can build your own sites, SEO them, and Design them yourself and you can do your niche research then you can easily think up a working membership model type of website which is more of a stable income.

Scaling sites can be a stable income but there are lots of factors these days which inflluence there success or failure.

I'll stop there cause I might as well just write a book on the subject. Ask questions if you want I'll try to keep my responses shorter then this one.
Thank you for this great post! I found a lot of answers to those things I have keep asking in some other forums.
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I'm working on increasing my traffic for the blogs I've got up.

How many feeds are you guys using per blog?

I've got 4-6 for each, and even though I'm building links (delicious, then exporting to other bookmarkers, finding places to comment yadda yadda) and even have one of them ranking in the top 10 in google, my traffic is dismal.

They've been up for 1-3 weeks depending on the blog, and I"m getting around 20 hits a day on all of them. Click through seems ok, it's just the traffic that sucks.

Any specific tactics that are beneficial for splogs?
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Anybody have one of the plugins that re-writes the feed content?
Like Synonymizer

What do you guys do about dupe content?
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Bam Bam,

I'd like to thank you first for this thread, it is truly a great inspiration for other newbies out there - just like myself. I've got one question though. I trid to download your custom WP install that you linked on the first page of this thread (http://www.artofbam.com/wordpress.zip), but the link is apparently not working. Is there any chance I could get hold of it? It would help a lot to finally get started!

Thanks again!

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