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Old 10-02-2007, 12:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it really worth it to take the time to set up a bunch of sites for this? Does this technique still work?

I know it can depend on the niche, but how many sites would you recommend setting up for a starter's goal of $200/week?
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Is it really worth it to take the time to set up a bunch of sites for this? Does this technique still work?

I know it can depend on the niche, but how many sites would you recommend setting up for a starter's goal of $200/week?
This will depend on a few factors for instance how much do you have to spend, if you want $200 a week then set up 30 sites each making you $1 per day through contextual advertising.

Then you have to figure out how much time/money you want to invest in link building and getting your site ranked so you can get traffic to that site, in order to make $1 per day you'll need about 150 to 200 unique each and every single day with proper ad placements, plus you will want longer feeds and you'll have to do research into beating Google's Smart Pricing.

P.S. A little tip is that duplicate content is a way to beat smart pricing but the content has to be related to your sites topic and it has to be a decent length so I stress full text feeds and not summaries.
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With proper link building and search engine indexing, and judging by your own personal experience, about how long does it take to reach that $1/day mark per site?
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With proper link building and search engine indexing, and judging by your own personal experience, about how long does it take to reach that $1/day mark per site?
Well honestly the sites don't have to be big, nor do they have to be unique but they do have to be targeted, the only real problem with a site with no real unique content is they are hard to get indexed.

Have a look at one of my sites Hannah Montana that site has no unique content, its been up for just over a month and is not indexed in Google but averages 100 unique per day just from type in traffic from video submissions to YouTube, the audince are girls who like to chat and my return visitor count increases each and every day.

This particular site only makes about .50 cents per day and takes less then 2 minutes to update each week so .50 cents per day for 2 minutes of work per week isn't bad, you scale that up and your making decent cash for sites not even indexed.

How long is a real tough question, if you have a strong link building campaign and you can get your sites indexed for longer tail terms (A couple of them) which will eventually add up your traffic to get to that $1 per day mark it can take anywhere from 1 month to 6 months (Assuming your only waiting to get indexed).

If your paying for your traffic then your basically doing the new age arbitrage model and traffic will come a lot faster but with this model requires constant monitoring, you can take traffic from the 2nd tier and 3rd tier search engines you'll get cheap traffic but if it converts you only need to break a profit, for instance if you pay 5 cents for a visitor lets hope that click is worth more then 5 cents but also remembering your not going to have a 100% CTR, to be safe average your CTR to around 30%.

Its all about the math per time when doing this, you can do your math 100% correct but if you don't take into account the time required to pull it off you'll get frustrated after 1 month and not hitting your goal and give up.

Tip: No matter what happens don't ever give up. Let me rephrase that to something more strict. DONT EVER FUCKING GIVE UP.

Ok this may be a bit confusing cause its coming out of my head and my thoughts get twisted most times so I'll try to clean some things up.

Lets say you have an initial budget of $500 and you want to earn $200 per week, what you can do is spend $300 to buy 30 domains (Don't jump the gun here), and use the other $200 for traffic and some link building.

Now when you reach your goal of $200 per week the $500 initial investment will be very small on your part and you can use any additional cash to scale from there.

The time factor with this type of thing is something most don't talk about but if your going to do it right you'll have to spend your pre-research, this means you have to research each niche for each of the 30 sites, for each niche you'll have to research longer tail terms with almost no competition but with the highest search volume, every once and awhile you'll find some Gem terms by doing your research before buying your domain names.

I'll stop there but to put it simply if you have a good model you can earn that inside of 3 months assuming your aim for traffic is on the search engines, paid traffic is a bit more tricky but you'll get much faster returns.

Its an art and in order to capture that art you have to take time. Everything above is assuming you can code, design, and SEO your own sites (I do it all on my own it took me a long time to learn everything but it also saves me tons of cash, plus the skills gained earn me cash).

If this seems like too much and you consider yourself to be confident and have half a brain try looking into membership subscription sites, something you can charge $30 per month for, think about user generated content, think Friend Finder, Think Dating Sites, Think FaceBook, Think MySpace, then think of a niche that people will pay money for, will you charge them this fee for a service or to provide them content.

This is what I do now I don't really do any of the scaling tons of sites anymore I focus on stable longer term goals which continue to earn me money each and every month. If you can build your own sites, SEO them, and Design them yourself and you can do your niche research then you can easily think up a working membership model type of website which is more of a stable income.

Scaling sites can be a stable income but there are lots of factors these days which inflluence there success or failure.

I'll stop there cause I might as well just write a book on the subject. Ask questions if you want I'll try to keep my responses shorter then this one.
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That was an amazing post and more than answered any questions I had. Thanks so much
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Aequitas,

Do you have to put those videos in manually or do they come with the feeds? Is there a plug-in for the videos or will they work OK just being inserted into a post?

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Do you have to put those videos in manually or do they come with the feeds? Is there a plug-in for the videos or will they work OK just being inserted into a post?

Thanks!
For the particular site I've used as an example that one was all done manually, the initial start up time took a little longer (A Full Day) to catch up on the content, videos, seasons, wallpaper, ect...

I'm using wordpress and i don't like using plugins to really host or add my videos unless they are my own plugins but the #1 rule when adding videos by hand and using wordpress is to disable the WYSIWYG editor, under My Profile or My Account link in the top right hand side of your admin account.

The reason for this is because the WYSIWYG editor in wordpress will mess with embed codes (I.E. Videos) all editors like that mess with your code, unfortunately wordpress fucks up the code and your videos won't play so disable that function, take the time to learn a bit of XHTML if you have to and then toss it up.

Basically when I do things manually I try to do as much as physically possible in the first day then after that I slow down and add content as needed (Mostly when the traffic takes a slight dive is when you should post new content). That way they come back for more.
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you should re-title this thread............how to quit your job on 50 cents a day (sounds like the title of an ebook)
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I have one blog setup which Scrapes Google Blog Search results for certain keywords, Google news, yahoo news and a few well known blog sites.
I put some Adsense in there and left it running (i ping it with Pingoat every few days)

At the minute i'm making about $6-$8 per day from it and its only been around for about 3 weeks.

In my noobish mind i'm doing pretty fucking good!

I'm going to set up around 3 - 5 more in the next few days and see how they perform.

Oh and i haven't SEO'd it or used any kind of Traffic buying / PPC!

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I have one blog setup which Scrapes Google Blog Search results for certain keywords, Google news, yahoo news and a few well known blog sites.
I put some Adsense in there and left it running (i ping it with Pingoat every few days)

At the minute i'm making about $6-$8 per day from it and its only been around for about 3 weeks.

In my noobish mind i'm doing pretty fucking good!

I'm going to set up around 3 - 5 more in the next few days and see how they perform.

Oh and i haven't SEO'd it or used any kind of Traffic buying / PPC!

Excellent Work man, you have found a profitable niche now just try to scale that shit up to 10 sites and your making a steady $60 to $80 per day which works into $1800 To $2400 a month.

I'd say thats good for a noob.
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Lots of good info in this thread! Now I just need to light a fire under my ass and get moving on things.
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For the particular site I've used as an example that one was all done manually, the initial start up time took a little longer (A Full Day) to catch up on the content, videos, seasons, wallpaper, ect...

I'm using wordpress and i don't like using plugins to really host or add my videos unless they are my own plugins but the #1 rule when adding videos by hand and using wordpress is to disable the WYSIWYG editor, under My Profile or My Account link in the top right hand side of your admin account.

The reason for this is because the WYSIWYG editor in wordpress will mess with embed codes (I.E. Videos) all editors like that mess with your code, unfortunately wordpress fucks up the code and your videos won't play so disable that function, take the time to learn a bit of XHTML if you have to and then toss it up.

Basically when I do things manually I try to do as much as physically possible in the first day then after that I slow down and add content as needed (Mostly when the traffic takes a slight dive is when you should post new content). That way they come back for more.
Thanks for the answer.

I have a plug in that enables posting videos to WP from several video hosting sites but, it's not automatic. Want a copy to see if you can make it post them via RSS? If you can, you can give a copy back, then sell it.

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Excellent Work man, you have found a profitable niche now just try to scale that shit up to 10 sites and your making a steady $60 to $80 per day which works into $1800 To $2400 a month.

I'd say thats good for a noob.
Cheers dude.

Do you think i should stick with the same Niche or try something else and see how it works out?
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Cheers dude.

Do you think i should stick with the same Niche or try something else and see how it works out?
I would very the niches just so your not competing against yourself after you dominate the one your in.
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Thanks for the answer.

I have a plug in that enables posting videos to WP from several video hosting sites but, it's not automatic. Want a copy to see if you can make it post them via RSS? If you can, you can give a copy back, then sell it.

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Today is a good day.

I now have 7 RSS Scrape & Blog sites working, should start to see some better results soon!
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bam bam, what type of promotion are you doing to get traffic to your blog pages?
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bam bam, that's awesome, bud. Who'da thunk that scraping and autoposting would still work?

Well, maybe you guys did, but I thought that crap was DEAD.

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Yo, all i do is create a site, submit it to Eli's QUIT tool and ping it with Pingoat every now and then. I think i've found a really good niche with this one, so it might be a one off thing. My others are perforing that well at all.

So i might have just got lucky this time. Lets hope not!
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CLICK ME BITCH!

OK, so if anyone still wants to give this a try, here's my wordpress stuff for you to use. I used Eli's custom install and added some plugins, themes and tweaked the auto blog plugin.

This one won't unzip into its own directory so make sure you create one first. I'd suggest using Sub Domains as apposed to Sub Directories.

i.e. create the Sub Directory "Niche.example.com" and upload the zip file to the Niche root.
  • Create a new database for the install and add a user with full permissions to it.
  • Extract the Zip file and edit the wp-config-sample.php to reflect the new user and database.
  • Then run the install and you've got yourself a shiny new Wordpress install complete with a mountain of themes and plugins.
From there you just have to activate the plugins and play around with the options.
Let me know how it goes!
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CLICK ME BITCH!

OK, so if anyone still wants to give this a try, here's my wordpress stuff for you to use. I used Eli's custom install and added some plugins, themes and tweaked the auto blog plugin.

This one won't unzip into its own directory so make sure you create one first. I'd suggest using Sub Domains as apposed to Sub Directories.

i.e. create the Sub Directory "Niche.example.com" and upload the zip file to the Niche root.
  • Create a new database for the install and add a user with full permissions to it.
  • Extract the Zip file and edit the wp-config-sample.php to reflect the new user and database.
  • Then run the install and you've got yourself a shiny new Wordpress install complete with a mountain of themes and plugins.
From there you just have to activate the plugins and play around with the options.
Let me know how it goes!
What tools are you using to automate your blogs?
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In that Zip you've got wp-autoblog and wp-o-matic, enjoy!
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Well I'd like to say thanks, after about 2 months of lurking these forums I'm just gonna say fuck it and give this a try!
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Hi Bam Bam,
I just installed the latest v2.3 of wp on my blog & used the wpomatic plugn provided by you.

When I activate the wp-o-matic plugin, I get the following error.

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WordPress database error: [Table 'anyamtab_auto.wp_wpo_campaign' doesnt exist]
            
SELECT FROM `wp_wpo_campaignWHERE 1 AND (frequency lastactive) < NOW() ORDER BY created_on DESC 
But I just cannot make it work & I am getting the f
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hmmm, i think its not installed correctly. Try deleting it from the Plugins folder and downloading it again from here - http://downloads.wordpress.org/plugin/wp-o-matic.zip

Then follow the standard WP Plugin installation stuff and let me know how it goes.
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Then follow the standard WP Plugin installation stuff and let me know how it goes.
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A lot of plugins broke with 2.3 release... you might want to check on compatability issues
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Wp-o-matic works fine for me.
I just uploaded the plugin to a fresh WP install though.
(One click install, me is too lazy for anything else)

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does anyone use the blog solution or rss 2 blog for any of their auto blogging?
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I use rss2blog for certain things. I am trying it with a MU install now I will
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I use the untimate plugin known as Splogpress haha and no you all can't have it yet cause its not done but so far I can generate any amount of subdomains as I want at a click of a button and add any amount of rss feeds and posts at the click of a button.

Now just need to target things and tweak some core MU files, I'll keep you all updated.
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Would this still work, get traffic if i was to use the one domain and just create sub directories for each niche. e.g celebrities.eblogging.com, randomniche.eblogging.com (not my domain, just an example)

or would you recommend a new domain for each niche?
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Would this still work, get traffic if i was to use the one domain and just create sub directories for each niche. e.g celebrities.eblogging.com, randomniche.eblogging.com (not my domain, just an example)

or would you recommend a new domain for each niche?
I would say get super creative but still try to stay somewhat on topic, for instance try to go a bit broader of a niche like blogging instead of wordpress, then you can have domains about all types of blogging like blogging.wordpress.com ect.. but this also brings the challenge of finding a proper domain for it.

Basically its all about getting as much pages indexed as possible and getting the most click possible while having enough content on your site to get around Google's Smart Ad System.
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I've used a script from the Squirt forum to search for blog posts in Google, Technorati, MSN and Blog Pulse.

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$filename 
'keywords.txt';
$handle fopen($filename"rb");
$keywords fread($handlefilesize($filename));
fclose($handle);

$keywords str_replace(" ""+"$keywords);
$keywords explode("\n"$keywords);

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fclose($handle);

$keywords explode("\n"$keywords);

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$filename 'keywords.txt';
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All you have to do is create a .txt file in the same folder as the above script with a keyword on each line and run it.

It's not optimised in ANY way, i'm a total newb at PHP, but it works well so i'm gonna sleep happy at night.

Hope it helps.

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Introducing this line to have the application wait a few secs before another kw, so you dont have the Google anti-bot system kick you out:

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This is an excellent thread! EXACTLY what I was searching for...

People were asking about rss2blog, anyone have any feedback? Looks promising, would really appreciate any thoughts or alternatives to research
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emp: it doesn't contact Google as such, it just replaces . $keyword . with one of the kw from the list.

Should i still add it?
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Should have looked at it more closely....

So it just outputs a bunch of search-adresses with the keywords in them?
The I can use that list to search?


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once its generated it will look like this - http://thegeekyblog.com/keywords/keyword.php

Then you can copy and paste that list into wp-autoblog and generate an Uber amount of posts.
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Damn, me stupid.

Damn fine script. +rep
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Stupid double post bc. of tabs.

Nothing to see here, please move on.
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