emp

OK, solved it and did a writeup, here it is:


Using Google news to fill your Autoblog


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Ugh. I know nothing about the ramifications of that. I saw Aequitas has hannamontanapic - does the 'pic' vs plural make a difference?

Aequitas

Probably not but the chances of you getting cought with it are less then none in my own opinion. Plus think about the hundred thousand other sites online just like mine, theres, and there fans, all in some form or another break trademarks I don't worry about em all that much unless I'm working on a massive project.

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Mike

If you're using a trademarked name like a celebrity or TV show, be sure to have a disclaimer somewhere stating that it's a fan site and not affiliated with the trademark owner in any way.

Many companies are okay with this as it really only helps their marketing / branding. Some get really pissy about it. Depends on who you're dealing with.

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smap

Nice. Put this in to action today.

K - thanks.

Good call.

Worst-case C&D and I take the site down?

For auto-blogs ... I'm assuming nofollow on the outbound links is a good idea? If so is there a good WP plugin to get er done?

bam bam

i think wordpress automatically has Nofollow. But i'm not 100%, i know you have to install a plugin to make it DoFollow, so logic says.....

ANYWAY!

I've got a new script.
I saw a script on the Squirt forum and duplicated it to include Technorati, MSN, and Blog Pulse.

Click Here for instructions and code.

Aequitas

Your right Wordpress has an automatic NoFollow on all comment links but I'm not sure about post links you place in, I'll have to look that one up, it doesn't really matter one way or the other though.

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elime

So I'm sure this is extremely noobish, but I'm asking anyways. Also I'd like to mention that for whatever reason I'm extremely inarticulate tonight, so I hope you can understand what I'm getting at...

I've read and re-read a great deal of the articles/posts here, and needless to say, they've been incredibly beneficial. I'm feeling good about the progress I'm making.

My question stems from Jon's Enough Bullshit post. Getting a domain, writing up (or otherwise acquiring) unique content, QC, all of that I get. I'm wondering if (and if so, why) there is a benefit to having a single domain for one affiliate offer/company.

So: one domain, one product/service/whatever, vs. one domain, many offers. Like your one domain/one product is a killer landing page, but the one domain with many offers is something along the lines of a "service review" blog.

It seems to me that the "many offers" site would be easier to maintain and possibly gain conversions on other products the visitor didn't know existed. However, there could be some glaring issue that I'm totally missing.

I'd really appreciate any advice you guys have

bam bam

SO FOLKS!

October is drawing to an end, which will signify my first month in RSS Scraping and Auto Blogging. Here are my results from Google Adsense.

I had a major lull recently after i had to remove one of my best feeds due to complaints. BUT as you can see its starting to build back up. And i'm holding that one $20 day in high regard!

Keep going folks, anything is possible if you put your mind to it.

(I'm not entered in the challenge btw, just wanted to share the stoke!)

smap

They don't leak SEO fluid?

smap

Nice! Is all your traffic organic?

bam bam

yup, no advertising anywhere. All trackbacks and Pings on Pingoat.

Mike

Autoblogs are fun and easy, but they still require a certain amount of technical skill that some people are having difficulty with (as evidenced by my PMs) so I wanted to throw out a couple more ideas for you.

1. Pr0n - Xtube
Tools needed - strong stomach, video editing software
Cost - none
Pros - Free, relatively simple, gets you lots of exposure
Cons - Porn converts very poorly. Between 1:600 and 1:2000 generally. So you need a lot of views
Summary:
I wrote up a tute on this a long time ago (really entertaining thread too). If you are interested in promoting some adult sites, this is a cost effective method to do it. Here's the short version of the tute:

1. Sign up on Xtube
2. Get yourself some adult sponsors
3. Download their free content (only videos, don't bother with pics)
4. Cut / splice the videos into 30 - 45 second chunks
5. Upload, wait about 3 days for them to show up on Xtube
6. Repeat 4 & 5 daily. Try to upload 3 - 5 videos per day.

Oh yeah, and with the right niche you can get thousands of views per video per day! No kidding. I uploaded a couple new vids a few days ago, and each already has over 12,000 views! Just have to find your niche.

2. Parasite Hosting - Wordpress.com, Squidoo.com
Tools needed - brain
Cost - none
Pros - Free, start with PR and links
Cons - Less control over monetization, plugins, etc
Summary:
Using a free blog account, you can get some practice at blogging and blog monetization without the risk or cost of having it hosted on your server. Plus, you can often get a site that already has PR and backlinks! Not sure how? Here's how (warning: requires your own hosting and setup) Anywhooooo.... Moving right along.

3. Free Webhosting
Tools needed - FTP client possibly
Cost - none
Pros - Free
Cons - Often has ads embedded on your site
Summary:
There are a lot of free hosts out there, find one and try them out. Some allow you more flexibility than others, but they all limit you in various ways. Here are a couple:

• Google Page Creator
• GoDaddy - when you buy a domain they'll give you free hosting, but there are ads across the top
• Kinghost - Adult sites ONLY! This is one of the few free hosts that almost all of the TGPs are cool with. Even TheHun is cool with Kinghost. They do put a couple small banners on each of your pages though.

Hopefully this helps. Feel free to add to this list of ideas. I just wanted to present some other options to the autoblogs for those that are still kind of on the fence.

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Supergeek

I've made ~$16 since the 16th or so when I started advertising my site's revamp. I'm getting about 500 uniques a day now on that site. But, I've only got that site, and another site that's not really monetized, so two sites = just testing the waters.

However, I'm working on something that will allow me to deploy sites quickly and easily, and November should be a much better month.

Mike

Nice! Good to hear about your success so far!

Keep it up, you'll do well.

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Nomara

Bam bam,

How many autoblogs are you running? I've had a few running for a week or two now and I'm only making about 10 cents a day on each one.

bam bam

I think i have about 10 or so now, but only one / two actually get any adsense clicks.

I really should look into killing those that don't.

emp

Are you using WPmu for that?
Also:
Can I assign different themes to different WPmu blogs? Anyone?

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I just tested Emp and yeah ... AAMOF I'm doing the opposite and I have to go explicitly go set my theme for each subdomain blog.

emp

AAMOF? Fuckkkk... [google] .. "As a matter of fact"... damn.... Didn't think any acronym would faze me anymore.

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So I would / could set up the wp-o-matic plugin as well?
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I'm setting it up now but I've bagged rewriting. Seems fine - except the very latest version breaks in MU. The 1.0RC1-9 seems alright.

I'm using it through Plugin Commander if it makes any difference ... not sure.

WPMUPluginCommander - FireStats

bam bam

I don't use WPMU, i was going to, got it all installed and everything. But gave up when it came to modifiying my server or some shit. I couldn't be arseholed.

If anyone fancies guiding me through i would be very appreciative.

smap

I use DreamHost for DNS and a different host for Apache. It was a matter of me emailing DH support and asking them to "setup a wildcard DNS for my domain" which they then told me I could have done myself (know next time) - and emailing the Apache host and pointing them to this page for this

Once those were both done ... WPMU just worked!

Aequitas

I'm going to be writing up a help guide on MU soon I'll toss it in the thread http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-su...-blogging.html

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smap, can you go into details on how to setup that wildcard DNS?

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For DreamHost ... if you're familiar with creating custom DNS records there, as far as I can tell from looking at what support did, it's just a matter of adding a CNAME of "*" (without quotes) pointing to your domain.tld. If unsure - just ask 'em. They did mine quick!

I can help ya more tomorrow if needed ... family night tonight!

parushing

If you are using cpanel goto subdomains> create a subdomain * save it and you are done.

bam bam

That's genius! Cheers for telling me that dude, would have taken me hours otherwise. lol

bam bam

Fucking edit limit!

Right, so i have the wildcards sorted.

Next up is "AllowOverride FileInfo Options" and "LoadModule rewrite_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rewrite.so"

Anyone know how to do this on cPanel?

Aequitas

Doesn't your hosting provider already have mod_rewrite on, if it does then you don't need to add that line, if you are using a virtual host like Apache then in the http.config file the loadmodule line is usually commented out just remove the # from the start of the line and it should work fine.

However if you want to do this online and your host has mod_rewrite turned off then yeah I'm not sure how you would go about doing it other then asking them to turn it on for you.

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Bam Bam,

I am curious to know if the plugins contained in your wordress.zip file work with WMU. Mind updating us on the compatibility?

bam bam

Cheers Aequitas, my hosting company are really pissed at me right now, account SUSPENDED! BAN HAMMER! lol

SCapitalist: I'm not too sure, once i get my hosting back i'll see what works.

purpureleaf

It seems that the "Update Services" option isn't in WordPressMU, should I ignore this? I am really new to it, are WordPressMU and WordPress the same thing?

Aequitas

Under Options---->Privacy make sure you have the option "I would like my blog to be visible to anyone who visits, including search engines, archivers and in public listings around this site." Checked off then once you go under......................ummmm.................. ........ummm...............ok what the fuck the ability to ping is gone in MU as well.

As for MU and Wordpress being the same thing the answer is yes they are 100% the same core program, you see MU was built directly on top of Wordpress but the two guys who are building MU like to do things pre-maturely and I'm sure they have there reasons for it but there are still lots of little things that they need to clean up.

I've basically already hacked down most of the new MU code and tweaked some chuncks on my own installs to support some of the old features that I MU wen't ahead and changed but to put it simply yes MU is the same as WP.

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solars

the ping thingie is under Site Admin -> Edit (of the specific blog) then down the long list there is an input field Ping Services, you heave to seperate by newline though so either copy&paste or change the field to a textarea.

purpureleaf

thanks, guys
I have switched to WordPress

smap

Aha - awesome - thanks! I looked for that several times..

argh01

Totally thanks.
rep++

ubaidabcd

couple questions, this are noob questions, I just got a full time job and can't spend time here in the day so sorry if these questions are repeated.

what's the difference between cycle sites and autoblogging? I understand cycle sites pretty well, as I read 20 pages on Cycle Sites on squirt's forum last sunday. Not sure how cycle sites are different from autoblogging as they sound like the same thing.

With autoblogging, can you limit how many posts are made a day? I don't really want to start cycle sites yet since I don't want to spend on a VPS or dedi and getting a fake hosting site created.

Can autoblogging be tested on shared hosting? I just want a blog that autoposts enough a day to where it's not going to be a problem with my hosting. I want to only concentrate on small niches, although I don't know how hard it will be to find that many RSS feeds for smaller niches, but I'm willing to give it a try.

I understand cycle sites are for link building, but I would like to start as many autoblogs as I can and monetize with adsense or whatever else and try to get these blogs to rank in SERPs from the new posts being added regularly. Is this possible or would these posts count as duplicate content since they're being scraped from RSS feeds?

Thanks

smap

This is on my list of "to figure out" as well.

Hmm with wp-o I know you can set it to pull a feed on a schedule like a cron job, so say your feed contains max 10 items and you set it to pull once a day you've accomplished what you're after. Adjust your schedule as needed with larger feeds.

Performance-wise, no problem. If you're using WordPress + wp-o-matic, it's really no different than a standard WordPress install. I have pingbacks turned off so my "fetch" operations take <1 second and I only do them every 5 hours...

Mike

Cycle sites are autoblogs on crack basically. An autoblog is any blog that does the updating itself to some degree. In other words, they pull feeds from other blogs or search engines and posts those to the autoblog (also known as a "splog" or "spam blog").

Where cycles sites differ (primarily) is the number of feeds they pull and ping per day. If you read through the huge thread in the SQUIRT forum, you'll notice that people are using feeds to post 1000 - 4000 posts per day. Also, with the cycle site they automatically try to send a trackback to the blog they took the content from. Sometimes they are successful, sometimes not. But the fact that you are hitting 1000's of blogs / posts per day, they will be successful enough to build a shit load of links in a short period of time. After which you shut it down and park the domain or put up a static page.

Because WP is not very efficient in terms of server resources, it's best not to do a cycle site on shared hosting. You'll get your account terminated very quickly, if you don't crash the server first.

Autoblogs, on the other hand, are generally much more tame - only pulling from a few feeds per day. Most autoblogs can run forever without too much of a problem. I've got one that has been plugging along for a long time with zero problems, but it only pulls from 5 feeds, and only when I bother to manually click "Update". It makes about $0.15 to $0.30 per day (woo hoo). Now figure it takes me less than 30 seconds per week or month to deal with. Hell, I actually forgot about it for a couple months and it still did it's thing. Figure out a way to hammer out 1000 of those and you got a decent daily income.

It's all about scale and what you are trying to accomplish.

/edit/ forgot to add: that small autoblog is ALL duplicate content, yet it is indexed in all the SE's and has links to it.

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purpureleaf

Finally got somthing. I don't know why, but Eli's script didn't work on my server, maybe it is because that I installed PHP5 myself. I tracked the problem and found the http lib he is using (snoopy) didn't work at all, it didn't return anything. I have to hack it to make it works. Anyway there are some random articles on my site now.

purpureleaf

emm, here is something I have worked on
vacation rental / holiday rental search engine
It scrapes rental informations from many sites.
I wrote the engine, he did the web pages himself. Since he paid decent $$ to me, I guess he should expect decent income from that
Now I know why there are always some guys looking for "site scraper" scripts. Maybe I should create one for myself, just don't know what to scrape

bam bam

What plugin were you using for this Mike?

emp

BamBam, your hosting issues resolved?
What was the problem?

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Yup yup, i managed to sap 70&#37; of my shared hosting's MySQL resources! haha, so they shut my badass down.

I've found a better host now, just in the process of tranferring all of my websites, which is a pain in the ass!

purpureleaf

But I think those RSS feeds don't have the whole article, only the summary, right?
This is really a problem.

bam bam

Yup, thats why its for Cyclesites and not Autoblogs.

Cyclesites are there PURELY for trackback links. Autoblogs need the entire article.