purpureleaf

but didn't you do your autoblog using eli's script?
I used the file you uploaded, but it only has summary.

solars

you can create the autoblog with the descriptions to, as long as there is content..

smap

^^^ I hope so! I thought mostly you were getting traffic from pinging the aggregators (man I may really be talking out my ass here) - anyway I'm confused why you would need the full articles.

I've got a few of my sites live now and am fetching and pinging every 5 hours. Anyone have a guess when I should see traffic? Is there a way I can search and see if my feeds are being picked up?

bam bam

Yup, but i use an older (I think) version of wp-autoblog. One which has the option to grab Extracts or Full Feeds.

I started seeing good traffic within 24 hours, but mine was detching every time somone visited. So it was like a rolling stone, once it started it just grabbed more and more!

Have faith brother, they will come. Oh yes, they will come.

emp

Well then, please share your version, mate.

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bam bam

It's version 1.0 - i think Eli's version is 1.1 but i'm not sure. I'll try and find a link.

edit: Found It...

bam bam

Has anyone else thought about setting up cycle sites and selling the traffic via 301's?

DBWebDev

Just thought I'd give an update on my progress - no where near as good as everyone else, got bogged down in lots of offline work so haven't been able to work as many hours.

I used all the information that I've gotten from this thread and others, and just using a couple of basic changes I've made one of my old blogs go from nothing a week to about a dollar. Yes, a whole dollar - everyone laugh at the newb. I still have social media promotion stuff to try and proper link building so I reckon it might turn out to be half decent, then just make another few hundred of them.

I have another 6 sites in the pipeline and have just got my reseller hosting sorted out so hopefully will see some better figures by the end of the month. But I think the main point of this challenge was to get people's arse's moving - and that's certainly what has happened for me.

bam bam

A dollar is good man, ya gotta start somewhere!

MDSandB

A dollar a site will be good if you have 100 such sites and they all give you a $ a day. This will make you join the Famous $100/Day Club.

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Not sure if would be of interest to you guys but I found this tutorial on how to install WP locally

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I've just done it, very very easy to install. Thought it would save on bandwidth etc. during development sites.

Just about to test to see if wp-autoblogs works with it while local.

argh01

I'm still struggling too, pal.

I did have a dollar a day too.
Now I'm trying for 10 dollars in 7 days, though my current level is 5.19/last 7 days.

A Buck A Night - Creating Passive Revenue Streams

( ok two of those dollars were sales on this, note it's an afflink, and note you can easily cut off the aff part )

A great marketing idea for only $1! - OneDollarIdeas.com

PS: don't feel like paying one dollar? Burning with curiosity? Don't bother, the idea is worth what I paid for it.

SCapitalist

I have been brainstorming the last couple of days on ways to use spent cycle site traffic. This sounds like a great application.

SCapitalist

Alright, I have been following this thread all week and have finally formulated my game plan. I am a huge fan of Eli's SEO Empire article and must have read 20 times the week it was published. Then this week I stumbled on this thread and it has filled in so many of my questions.

Before I get started with my plan, I would like to thank all the people that take their time to contribute to this community. I have never seen a forum and helpful or as valuable as this one. I have been lurking for a while now, generally because I felt I didn't have much to contribute. Now is my chance! I look forward to meeting all of you.

My Plan:
I want to create a large network of autoblogs. These blogs will have 5-10 feeds per blog. My goal is to create 2000 blogs in the next three months. (A little outside of the scope of this challenge, but hey, a goal is a goal!)

Methodology:
I have developed a primary and secondary strategy to accomplish my goal.

• Primary: Install WordpressMU on a dedicated server. I will use Eli's autoblog zip and hopefully I can get it compatible with WPMU.
• Secondary: Use RSStoBlog to create my network. I would rather not spend the $250, but will bite the bullet if need be...

In order to produce such a large number of blogs, I will be contracting out some of my work to Independent Contractors (trusted friends) on a revenue sharing deal. The goal is for each person to create 125 blogs per month.

I am hoping I have get the setup time down to 10 minutes per blog. I believe this is possible.

I aim to make an average of $.15 per day per blog.

If anyone sees any apparent flaws in my logic, please shout it out! I will post updates as I progress.

smap

emp - if you've tried this - what do you think of it vs wp-o-matic?

smap

That's what I wanna hear ... waiting.

bam bam

10 mins per blog is really possible. Good luck to you sir. I'm looking forward to this!

purpureleaf

I check this version, but it seems that it does get the full content from the RSS(that is, it is not getting the content by actually reading the blog's url), but the problem is , some seeds (actually all of mine) just return summary as content. Do your seeds offer full content?

smap

Definitely - I'm at that point now with my WPMU setup.

I'm cautiously optimistic as well.

About 100 visits in the last 24 hours. Only 19 AdSense impressions (I guess spiders + ad-blocked accounts for that?). I page indexed in Goog and already had an organic SE visitor.

Shit - I see the one site I haven't really even worked on yet got 2 clicks already for $.35 total... Guess I know where I'm focusing today. This one is gonna be a video blog so new stuff for me to learn today.

smap

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but you need to find feeds that offer full text (vs. summary). The plugin used isn't going to make a difference.

ehaze

GOOGLE ADSENSE REVENUE: $0.53


Looks like i made some $$$

purpureleaf

I think you are right, but the seeds found here
http://sempros.net/feed-finder.php
don't have full text

smap

I'm not using full text myself - depending on your strategy I'm wondering what difference full feeds make. You'll likely have to do research (Google it) to go find niche-specific blogs with full feeds if that's what you're after.

solars

well, the only difference is that you have more content/keywords, thats it.

I don't think it has an impact on the duplicate content problem, Google uses ngrams for the smaller parts, maybe it uses a summary as... well a summary or quotation or so, but I think that needs some other text surrounding it.

smap

Right but (and I'm 100% not sure here) I think people are expecting most of their traffic to come from pinging the aggregators vs. organic search engine traffic?

You lost me here ... can you elaborate?

solars

yeah so its no problem at all, using summaries

I meant that, regarding duplicate content, it doesn't matter if you use summaries or full articles, maybe summaries are even better than whole articles, since google might threat it as something like a citation from another page (if you write abouta specific thing).
But therefore I think the quoted text needs to be surrounded by some other unique text.

ngrams are subparts of text that are meaningful, and google uses this to analyze a text. They have statistics for those ngrams which are evaluated.
So for example a text like "to be or not" is more likely to be real (and has a higher probability) as oposed to something like "to b3 0r n0t"

But I don't really know how google checks for duplicate content, which is actually a point I'm missing all over the SEO forums. There are lots of recommandations and stuff like "you should not", "never use".. but most of the time there is no real base for it, so its really hard to say what actually makes sense or not.

SEO_Mike

For those of you using the script from BlueHatSEO and are autoblogging, keep in mind that the script attempts to post trackbacks to the original blogs.

Few things to note:

1. That script can be used for a more friendly less spammy autoblog, but it was designed for cycle site type blogs.
2. With most autoblogs, you will have ZERO unique content. With Markov you can make it look unique, but it's not necessary for this type of site.
3. You traffic will come from the trackbacks it generates and blog aggregators
4. In all likely hood, your autoblog will not rank for anything - ever.
   
5. If you are running a true cycle site (1000's of posts daily), you're going to only have the site up for a few weeks, don't sweat the small stuff.
6. Cycle sites are for links primarily and money secondarily

At this point, I'm almost wishing that I never mentioned cycle sites as it seems that they are confusing a lot of people here. I apologize for that. Eli's BlueHatSEO contains some really advanced ideas / concepts, and if you are a true n00bie to internet marketing I don't expect you to completely grasp them. I'm not a total n00b (just mostly ) and I have to read Eli's posts multiple times to get exactly what he's saying.

Again, the purpose of this thread is to get people to take action. If you make money, that's even better. But don't bash your head against the wall trying to figure out cycle sites, or anything else that is really confusing you. Move on to something you are more comfortable with and come back to the cycle sites / advanced concepts later.

My fear is people will stick with one idea, not understand it, get frustrated and give up. DON'T DO THAT! If you are stumped, move on to another type of site. There are literally thousands of different kinds of sites:

• eCommerce sites - selling something physical or digital
• Static MFA site - basic informational site designed for high adsense conversions. Example: shotguns-shells.com. I know the guy that made this site and he'd HATE me calling it an MFA site, but that's what it is, plain and simple. BTW, he once told me that he gets about 15% click through on the Adsense blocks.
• Blogs - you know what those are
• Autoblogs - you should know what these are by now
• Comparison site - allows your visitor to compare multiple items to find the best deal.
• Game site - maddgamez.com is one of mine as an example
• Purely informational site - cspy.org is one that I built and sold. Information about proxies. Very little monetization. /edit/ Okay, there was very little monetization / ads on it when I sold it.
• Forums - you're on one. Lots of content, harder to monetize
• etc, etc.

If anyone is really just going nuts trying to figure something out and you're not comfortable asking for help in this thread or on the open forum, then PM me. I'm pretty confident that if you ask anyone here that has chatted with me via phone, email, PM, AIM, etc. they'll tell you that I'm easy going and sometimes even helpful. Don't feel like you are imposing either. I'm a mod, it's my job to help out.

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Oh yeah, I haven't updated you on my sites lately...

Here's a screenshot of my adsense earnings for the sites I've posted in this thread:



$3.71 total, averaging $0.23 per day. Yeah baby!

Beat that!

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smap

Thanks SEO_Mike ... learned a lot participating in this so far. Can you elaborate a bit on the trackbacks thing? I'm using wp-o-matic and only news.goog for content. I have "pingbacks" turned off thinking I was doing a good thing ... now I'm not too sure.

SEO_Mike

Leave "Attempt to Notify blah blah blah" turned on.

Trackbacks are those things you see in comments that look like:

They are good for links and some traffic. If I'm reading a blog and I see a trackback, I'll click on it to see why the other blog mentioned that article. Sometimes it's crap, but sometimes you'll find another good article about the subject you are interested in.

I've never used WP-O-Matic, so I'm not sure about the specifics there. I did download it and will try it out.

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solars

can anyone tell me where the hell the Trackback post/parse part in the autoblog script (that bambam posted) is? I want to extract that into a different app to post trackbacks, but cannot find it.

How does it work? does wordpress do the trackback pings?

SCapitalist

SEO_Mike,

I was hoping you could clarify something for me.

1) Do autoblogs (not cycle sites) work best with individual RSS feeds? I have seen a lot of feed finders on this thread that seem to pull aggregator feeds, such as technorati. It seems like these would be better suited for true cycle sites.

2) Do you keep your feeds running continuously? It seems logical to keep them running continuously to keep the trackback traffic coming in. However, it seems some people are running them for short periods, and then trying to index their site with the populated content.

3) If autoblogs do work better with individual feeds, do you know any resources to scrape a large number of individual rss feeds, by keyword?

SEO_Mike

SCapitalist -

1. If you are looking to make your blog less spammy, then yes.

2. Using Eli's script, you don't need to worry about cron jobs or manually updating the feeds. They automatically check for new posts when someone visits the blog. So, in short, I guess the answer is Yes, they run continuously.

3. Sort of, www.syndic8.com is the closest thing to this I can think of. Getting full feeds is more of a manual process (at least for me, I don't know PHP well enough to automate it)

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Notius

Ok, so here is my report. I started a video blog on 10/21. I am not going to link it since I want the result to be valid (I am sure you guys understand). I have posted my results so far below.



I have just finished a navigational query site using the suggestions from the this site Making money with Google navigational queries. Since this site is a CPA site and I would like to know what you guys think of it I have linked it below. This thread has been fucking great! I thank you for finally getting me off my ass and for all of the great info!!

Buying gold bullion

Thanks again all of you. I will keep you guys posted. on my results.

SEO_Mike

Good deal! It's definitely a start! I'm proud of you! (gee thanks Dad!)

Anyhow, I like the look of the header on the Gold Bullion site, but I think you should take the main points and expand on them. Also, make them separate pages. As it is, your page has the appearance of one of those long spammy sales pages we all love to hate.

Here's what I would do:

• Take all the main points you have there, and create pages for each of those points. Add some additional information and links for more info on each page.
• Add a page about Gold Coins. You could talk about their collectors value vs. the intrinsic value of gold
• Do some interlinking between your pages. Say your "Buying Gold Bullion" page mentions the liquidity of gold, link to the "Why to buy gold" page
• Find some high quality sites that have information on gold and put those on a "Additional Resources" page. Outbound links won't hurt. In fact, they can actually help your site.
• Have a news page that runs an RSS feed. Magpie works well for this. Or Carp
• Sign up for some gold affiliate programs (example: Duty Free House)
• Have a gold price chart on your site for people to check the spot price of gold

Good luck!

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purpureleaf

At first I think 0.75$ is not so impressive, but I found the site only has 1 page. So it is acctually good enough, at least to me.
But where are you ADs? I can't find them. I suppose you get cash by ADs?

Notius

I appreciate the quick response and the praise. I was following the instruction in the guide when it came to the site design. This did allow me to put up this site relatively quick (You never know how little you know about making even the simplest of sites until you try). I am going to leave it as is for a month to see what the response is like. If I see a low conversion then I will work in your suggestions. Well I might add in the gold price chart in.

Hey this is my first time working with Adsense. Is it normal to get 1 cent for 2 clicks?

cashflowrusty

Yep, that can happen easily. $0.005 per click.

Notius

The revenue numbers I posted were for my video blog. I know they are not impressive but my intentions were to show my results so far since I posted I was committed to this challenge. This is my first attempt at making money on the web so any positive return is just another reason to keep building.

The site is using the CPA side of adsense. I just brought that site online yesterday. I have submitted it with the QU.I.T tool and I am waiting for it to be indexed.

argh01

total wtf moment.
One of my firefox bookmarks opens up a bunch of affiliate site tabs so I can check all my zeroes: this morning went like this: clickbank zero is still there, adsense zero is still there, ebay/commission junction zero is still there, Copeac zero is still there, amazon.com affiliate zero is ... WTF? I "sold" 3 ( somethings ). I didn't sell those. I don't even have a ( something ) site!

I'm 4 bucks up on November 5! Holy Crap! I can retire now!

Seriously... I made 3 commissions on ... something I don't even promote. Not that I'm complaining, but I can't figure out how to get the damn amazon site to tell me what I did to sell them

emp

LOL...

Amazon will keep your referral for 24 hours.
Anything that is bought in that time counts for you.

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argh01

But they've been the same 3 items!!! I mean down to the stupid ASIN.

Now only if I can get someone to buy $40K worth of stuff @ amazon, I'll be sitting pretty

cr4zyguy

I guess it's a little too late to be participating in this challenge?

Supergeek

It's never too late, dude. It's not like there's any rules or anything.

cashflowrusty

I sold $400 wirth of nursing books back in the holiday season of 2000, via Amazon... And also a couple of sledgehammers, in the same order, it seems. Strange...

My only check from them... They suck... or I suck... Probably me...

springer

No doubt that sale was to seo_mike... putting his wife through nursing school and picking up a couple of ban hammers for himself. He goes through a lot of them, y'know.

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LOL!! Ironically, she was in nursing back in 2000, but I wasn't on any forums. Just eBay at that time.

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purpureleaf

where is the "trackback" thing in Eli's code? I think there isn't anything about it in wp-autoblog.php, maybe it is a feature of Wordpress? But I check the blogs which I "scraped", but I didn't find my site in their comments, maybe my trackbacks were identified as "spammer"?

bam bam

Not all blogs allow trackbacks to appear in the comments section. You just gotta get lucky!

cr4zyguy

Any chance there's a way to search for and filter away only blogs that allow trackbacks? Hmm, is there any footprint in the HTML source code that indicates trackbacks will be shown in the comments? Maybe I can get my hands dirty and code a fast script up.