rileypool

Here's my progress so far, but my impressions/clicks are somewhat inflated due to most of my traffic (so far) being from small Google PPC campaigns.

Can a mod shrink this for me?

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solars

Are you sure you did not mix up comments and trackback links?

yeah its actually a wordpress feature, the code that executes the pings is in wp-admin/execute_pings.php
trackbacks need an entry in post.to_ping (newline separated urls), rpc pings need an entry in post_meta.

I did not go through the whole code but I guess it just sends the trackbacks, wether or not the receiver can handle it.
I'm using lyceum but I think thats default wordpress functionality

argh01

rileypool: nice! congrats!
Do you have any other income streams? I mean affiliate sites, et cetera?

Aequitas

Well I figured I'd update my status on this as well and my status is that I just got the fucking internet back up and running about 5 minutes ago after been down for a week, it was supposed to be hooked up at my new house on the first and now its the 6th those bastards caused me a loss of work.

So I'll have to catch up a little bit now but I hope everyone else is doing alright I read a few more posts here but off to catch up on the forum again.

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lubber

does anyone know of a wordpress plugin that would let me pull posts from a database on domainX and publish them on domainY. I don't want this in RSS I just want it to take the posts from a database.

Mike

If you own both domains, then yes, you can do that:

1. Login to the cPanel for domainY
2. Click on MySQL Databases
3. Scroll to the bottom of the page and enter the IP address for domainX under Access Hosts
4. In the wp-config.php file of domainY enter the database information for domainX and for the host use domainY's IP address

Make sense? Or did I just talk you in circles?

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turbolapp

I was wondering where you went Aequitas...when regular posters suddenly stop you start to worry that they are laying cold sprawled out accross the laptop with the cat eating them as left overs...

rileypool

Nope, this is all new to me. Granted I am very familiar with the technologies that I'm using and am very good at picking up new programming languages.

These are my first attempts at making a legitimate living off the internet. That is if you don't count this time last year when everybody was banking of MySpace.

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lubber

SEO_Mike -makes sense. I guess I would then have to set a cron job to only post X number of times per day. the database has about 800k entries. I also don't want to post all the fields in the database so...

Aequitas

hahahaha yeah my internet service provider sucks ass, stupid Telus, anyone every doing anything should always use SHAW and never Telus, but then again all you in the U.S. have variety as where I'm in a remote place with no variety lol.

Yeah I know hey but now its called FaceBook growing at 100,000 new members per day, MySpace has or had over 100 Million members and last I checked FaceBook only has 9 Million right now so lots of time to crash the system lol.

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turbolapp

Better get on that....CareerBuilder.ca Builds Job Matching Application on Facebook(R) Platform

(51 Million users to date)

purpureleaf

thanks

Aequitas

wow I must have read an older article looks like it'll hit 100 million soon lol.

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rileypool

I've already tried their flyers without ANY success. Guess I need to step up my PPC game. I was actually quite disappointed. But I'll give it another shot since I've recently had some more practice with PPC campaigns and have gotten 3-7% CTR's.

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Mike

Update: I finally added some feeds to the X7G blogs. 20 blogs on WPMU with at least 200 posts each. Used the script I have at sempros.net/feed-finder.php to pull feeds. Put them in, ran them and called it good.

Something annoying I found out about WPMU: you can edit the themes under Presentation, so to put adsense in you have hardcode it into the theme files by hand. Just edit the files and FTP them to your server. Plus, they are global, so if you are running WPMU be aware of that, particularly if you have it setup so others can create blogs. Why? If someone creates a blog that violates Adsense TOS, YOU can lose your adsense account.

Also, added statcounter tracking to it. Had to hardcode that into the footer, so it tracks anything that has X7G.net in it.

Checked Yahoo! and can see that there are already inbound links to the Student Loans blog. Nice!

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springer

You can use plugins in WPMU, can't you? If so, here ya go gadsense.zip It's a widget to put adsense in your sidebar. You can actually plug in any ad code you'd like, it's not limited to just adsense.

Sure, it won't help if you want to place the big rectangles on your post pages or just below your header but, it's a start. It's easy to use and best of all, it's free.

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rileypool

For the n00bs looking for some helpful information I suggest reading the rss scraping and autoblogging thread that's been mentioned in this thread a few times. I just provided this "great" idea I had (even though its VERY simple) and to some it may just be what they need.

But I just had a question for you all that are familiar with cycle sites and splogs. Say I had a domain with 10 subdomains. Say those 10 subdomains were all setup to use Eli's WP-Autoblog. Those 10 subdomains also have about 150 feeds in each of them. Wouldn't that be equivalent to a small cycle site?

I have a feeling that I'm about to be contacted by my hosting provider. Let me know what you all think.

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Aequitas

Technically yes but think of each sub-domain as its very own website apart from your main domain, you have to think of your main domain as your castle and center of your country.

For instance if you loose a few sub-domains you won't loose you castle it'll stand to fight another day, however if you loose your main domain (Your castle) your entire country will fall victim.

Keep your main domain as secure as possible and blast the shit out of your sub-domains with feeds. As for your hosting provider, well I use GoDaddy and have done some pretty extensive things with my account and have never ever heard a thing from them.

They'll only really care if your placing extreme weight on there servers or if they get a few complaints about your account and its activity. Other then that most providers are pretty good and don't care how much you splog, just as long as you are not in line to hurt them or there reputation they'll leave you alone.

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ubaidabcd

I don't know if anybody can answer this or not, but if you already have an account with Godaddy (WH sites), and start a new account with the same CC and account info, (I'm concentrating on autoblogs not cycles) if for some reason it gets out of control do you know if they would ban both of my accounts?

I want to go wtih Godaddy since I know their system but for precautions thinking of going to hostgator so my WH sites are completely different.

springer

Godaddy is only slightly less fascist than the google. They are one of the only, if not THE only registrar, that will yank your domain if they get any complaints about you.

Other than still having a few domains registered there, I wouldn't sign up for anything through them.

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springer

Oh, and another thing I like about this plugin and completely forgot to mention...

It controls all the stuff in your sidebar(s) so you can rename stuff, move it around, take it out, swap stuff from side to side (if you have more than one sidebar,) etc.

I think it's pretty cool.

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Mike

Thanks for that Springer. I didn't even think of the sidebar, cuz I wanted the ads to be in the summaries. After you mentioned the sidebar, I went and checked and that can still be edited with widgets (if it's widget ready). Good find!

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razorboy

Less thinking and more doing is needed.........

springer

You're quite welcome.

Yeah, I discovered (quite easily) that you can put any old code in the widgets and it'll display, since I lost an AS account and can't use it on some of my sites any longer.

Really one of the more useful plugins I've found recently.

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Notius

OK. I got WordpressMU setup up on Tuesday. This thing is pretty damn cool. I have 3 auto blogs so far. I used the feed finder that SEO_Mike has setup and all seems to be going well.
I have a question though. What is a is a respectable amount of posts to be pulling in to still be considered a autoblog and not a cycle site?

Aequitas

A cycle site will post thousands of posts in hopes to generate tons of trackbacks, ect... in a short period of time.

Your auto-blogs will last a lot longer and therefore should act more as a legit type of blog so around 5 to 10 posts a day max, however this can change based upon initial start up.

In reality though the final choice is really up to you.

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Dave_IL

Quick update...

Starting to see $2+ days in adsense for the last 3 days, hopefully this is a continuing upward trend

purpureleaf

just one autoblog? that is amazing.

turbolapp

Do you mean 5-10 posts per day as in the date on the blog or actually only submitting 5-10 posts per physical day? So in otherwords when you're first starting a blog and if you want to back date it 30 days (or to whenever) can you do 5-10 posts per "day" (so start off with 300 posts)? Or would that be too much?

And while I'm on that topic...how far back should you make a blog so as to make it look like it's been around for a while? this is doable right? (I'm sure I've read about it somewhere)

springer

Yeah kid, I think you heard about it from me.

Don't make your first post date older than the registration date of the domain. When back-dating posts, I'll plug in a bunch to previous dates that didn't already have a post. If I ever fill up the calendar, then I'll worry about placing more than one post on a particular date. I don't believe that'll happen.

I also don't ping every day. I realize this isn't the way most of ya's are doing it but, I'm not most of ya's. I put in a little work but my family of blogs doesn't look like a splog farm (even though it is) and, a little manual labor never hurts me.

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Notius

Do you know of anyway to tweak Autoblog to limit the number of posts it puts up in a day or do I need to tweak the feeds that it uses to get it to average that?

Dave_IL

Sorry no I should have been specific, I have been a bit busy the last week...

The autoblog is bringing in income and is a piece of that, I think around 20-30 cents a day. In a few weeks I will 301 that to a money domain I have been working on with unique content.

I have been putting up some RSSGM sites, using a blog/ping and some other things to get as many pages indexed. The majority of money coming in, is from the RSSGM sites starting to get indexed.

Smashed

Firstly, hello and huge respect to all those sharing their knowledge here.

Secondly, after about a month of lurking around this forum like a dirty old man, and then reading this monster thread, I am going today to finally get off my ass and give this a go

I'm going for a wpmu setup and autobloging on a VPS, so lets see what happens...

Notius

Congrats on the decission and Good luck!

bam bam

Just out of curiosity, Would anyone be interested in buying a pre-established WPMU Auto blog site?

LazyHippy

No, but I'd be very interested to see if you sell it!

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turbolapp

Hey, don't knock it. Some of us are severely retarded when it comes to this stuff (alright maybe just one of us ) And I'm a firm believer, that if you can be spared the screaming of profanities and headbanging by outsourcing it, then so be it.

bam bam

lol, well my plan was to build to order.

It took me ages to learn how to do it, so if i can help some peeps out then so be it.

argh01

Pfft
You outsource the wpmu building and I outsource the warm fuzzy landing page / content generation. It's all good. Marketing makes me barf.

Smashed

Thanks dude.

You figure this out? I don't want to get fucked by Google - pretty as they may be - as I'm going for the longer term autoblog approach.

Notius

Not yet but I am not much of a coder either. If I stare at someone's code long enough I can tweak it but I have not had the chance to give it a try yet. I will let you know when I find something.

Aequitas

I don't really know why everyone is still so concerned with dates on a blog. I have never in my entire online career seen any proof that dates mean anything at all.

You want to know what I do to get around dates? I remove the meta descriptions from my wordpress themes so it doesn't show post dates, most people are smart enough to know that on a blog the most recent post will be up front, and for auto-blogs it doesn't really matter cause your just aiming for a quick click anyway.

Now as for the SEO point of view this is where I've never ever seen nor have I ever heard of Google or any search engine for that matter take a blogs date into consideration. Now if you try and tell me that I'm wrong and its called Google's Freshness Factor then your way behind in SEO.

First off Google does not take your on-site dates into consideration for the biggest reason. They CAN and ARE changable by the creator of the site or anyone with proper access.

In the past Google clearly stated on a number of things that if something can be changed up enough to make there system unsecure then they simply would not go that route so for them to take dates into consideration is pointless.

Instead what they do is take a factor of things to determine its freshness and uniqueness, see my theory still holds true and I've tested this more then I know how too and its never failed me. That theory is the search engines CANNOT consider your content duplicate or OLD if they have never before indexed it.

Pretty simple stuff, this means that if I pump out 100,000 posts in one day on a auto-blog and Google comes to index my site they have no way of knowing which content is new and which is old, they will only be able to determine which is fresh and which isn't AFTER they index some pages on your site.

Now with all this I should mention that if Google finds your site for the first time and they see 100,000 pages or even a Million pages they will be careful and they will treat is suspeciously but most of the time you'll be safe if its not extremely spammy stuff and of course if some content is unique, they treat bigger sites like this because they figure that if a site is that big that they should have easily indexed parts of that site in the past, not a whole lot of sites start up with that much content, actually as you can tell the majority of sites don't start up with that much content and they know this.

So again dates mean shit to me and they are only there for the humans reading your pages.

I have no idea, I use my own software for this which enables me to basically do anything I want with an auto-blog thats including setting up a post limit.

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springer

Erm, some of us still build sites for humans... they're the ones with the wallets.

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Aequitas

You have a point but without the engines the human wallets could never find you.

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turbolapp

...OOOOooHHHH You can't have one with out the OOOOther.....

Wait. This is a good thread I refuse to derail it with my fantastic singing voice.

Thanks for the in debth answer Aequitas and for your witty sarcasm Springer, as usual, both are much appreciated.

solars

heh Sherlock, do you think there is a nice old lady in their mid-sixties having nothing better to do than indexing your pages?

aequitas is talking about the bots, and I totally agree, google has better ways to check if your content is fresh or not, they would never use something as easy to tweak as a published date in your rss feed.

they have one of the largest news aggregators out there, so how difficult would it be to check if your post is something the world is talking about right now...

springer

What EV er...

I don't change my dates for the spiders, I do it for the people who spend the money on my sites.

I get all my pages indexed just fine (whether I post 10 or 100 or 100,000 pages a day) and, when a human visits one of my sites, it looks like something they'll be interested in and something I actually pay attention to so, they actually subscribe to my feeds and come back... and SPEND MORE MONEY!

You do it your way and I'll do it my way.

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turbolapp

Generic domains or specific domains?

I know this has been talked about randomly before but I don't recall if it's been in an autoblogging/wpmu kind of way. So I know it would be ideal to have a domain like stayfit.com and then have 20 blogs surronding it like workouts.stayfit.com and dietplan.stayfit.com but what if you have just generic domain hanging around like shazam.com and you want to do 20 random blogs like toehealth.shazam.com and legaladvice.shazam.com...anyone see any issues with that? (for example I've read about someone having possibly having problems with adsense going with the domain, so for example they were getting austin powers ads because of "shazam")

rileypool

I'm interested to know this as well. Reason being is that I have set up all my autoblogs on subdomains on the subdomain.allrelevant.info domain.

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subdomains should not be a problem, and I guess if you have a whole bunch of autoblogs or similar sites, its not really manageable with single domains for each page.

I'd use a general domain name like fuspot.com, barspace.org etc
but remember, a domain including the keywords weights probably more than a subdomain