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Old 11-08-2007, 08:59 PM   #351 (permalink)
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Hey, don't knock it. Some of us are severely retarded when it comes to this stuff (alright maybe just one of us ) And I'm a firm believer, that if you can be spared the screaming of profanities and headbanging by outsourcing it, then so be it.
I wasn't knocking it at all, just very interested to see if building these sites to sell could be worth doing.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:22 PM   #352 (permalink)
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Oh I see. Well, IMHO the answer would be yes. I think there is a market out there for people such as myself who know exactly where they want to be, have started down that road only to get stuck because their ambition is ahead of their skill level. In otherwords, we know just enough to be dangerous. Stuff like this is extremely frustrating and I would pay to skip over some of the headache. It's kind of along the lines of what I was talking about in this thread. Someone needs to market to the sophmores (which, by the way, means "wise fools" I believe, which about sums me up)
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Oh I see. Well, IMHO the answer would be yes. I think there is a market out there for people such as myself who know exactly where they want to be, have started down that road only to get stuck because their ambition is ahead of their skill level. In otherwords, we know just enough to be dangerous. Stuff like this is extremely frustrating and I would pay to skip over some of the headache. It's kind of along the lines of what I was talking about in this thread. Someone needs to market to the sophmores (which, by the way, means "wise fools" I believe, which about sums me up)
(havent tried installing WPMU yet)
A better idea is to pay for the know-how. So if you need another one of those sites to know how to do it your self and anyway expanding your knowledge.

I have the same problem with the content point of websites. I know (or able to learn) how to build a site but I just cant (you know hands up, I quit) JUST CANT generate any content for my self. I am also reluctant to buy any articles. I just wish I could skip that part as you said
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A better idea is to pay for the know-how. So if you need another one of those sites to know how to do it your self and anyway expanding your knowledge.

I have the same problem with the content point of websites. I know (or able to learn) how to build a site but I just cant (you know hands up, I quit) JUST CANT generate any content for my self. I am also reluctant to buy any articles. I just wish I could skip that part as you said
I'm the opposite. I love designing and building the sites, but going out and posting on social sites, etc. etc. is kind of a black box, a mystery; not sure if I'm wasting my time, etc. But I've got a PR4 site so I'm doing something right.
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I'm the opposite. I love designing and building the sites, but going out and posting on social sites, etc. etc. is kind of a black box, a mystery; not sure if I'm wasting my time, etc. But I've got a PR4 site so I'm doing something right.
I exactly know what you mean
And it's not only a black box but a boring procedure as well, except if you automate it
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Don't EVER FUCKING say that bull shit. That may seem harsh but its true and take it to heart cause its the best free advice anyone will ever give you.

Back in the day I didn't know shit about shit, I didn't know how to build a site, I didn't know fuck all, back when I started we were still building sites with fucking notepad man, fucking notepad, learn that way without any real online help and tell me how hard things are. No real content management systems, no real database support, no real dynamic pages, just basic crap and thats where you've got to start out (The old saying you've got to walk before you can run does actually mean something).

These days you've got it easy to build a website, there is more free information on how to build a site then every before, HTML is the easier thing in the world to learn no matter what you experince.

If you have the ability to learn (Like all humans do) then you've got a chance to succeed. This is turning out to be a self-help post haha but let me talk about what I truly started with -------- NOTHING.

Thats right I started with $20,000 in debt with no job. Am I a success story fuck no not a chance in hell (Not yet anyway). I've also literally been 4 minutes away from collections but managed to dig down deep and stay clear but trust me not by much.

Now after a lot of hard work and not letting anyone tell me I can't do something (God knows not many people are brave enough to say it directly to me but its been implied more times then I care to mention) I'm finally almost completely out of debt and haven't had a regular job in almost 2 years. It also took me more then 3 years of learning and working my ass off before starting to see better returns.

So whats the point of this post? Well its not to say hey look at me I did it, its not to say you will do it but rather just to say that I personally hate it when people say they CANT do something.
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Much Respect Aequitas. I'll add my 2 cents to it just so as the soothe the guy who posted he can't.

Well, I used to come from a rich family when my granddad was screwed by his own brothers and we were reduced to whatever low we could. When my granddad passed away my dad was 10 or probably 11. As he grew up he took a job in a bank and still works there. After that not that we were poor, but we weren't rich either.

I, being 18 myself right now, was 13 back then when i started. Asked for
300 Indian Rupees, or about $8 from my dad to start a website on my town. That website came up and went down a few times, but triggered my readiness to embrace the web.

Today at age 18, am an internet marketing consultant, own a few large forums, work on many big projects and i can say i have a better life.

I am sure, you guys must've been thinking it was sheer luck that got me here. Well the answer is yes and no. Yes because I do believe in getting lucky, and No because I fell down many times in these 4 years. Until last year, i couldn't even call myself 'successful'

I have fallen and risen many times amidst these 4 years. It was the determination to "not lose" hope that gets you to be successful. There are times when you cry, when you feel aloof, when you even wish you hadn't wasted your life in this whole internet thing. But believe me, like the glamor world, the internet too has something for everyone. It depends on when and how you find it.

And to all the other guys participating in this thread, you have even my attention right now. I'll help out and guide in whatever way I can.

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Hey Aequitas.

First of all I should say I fully respect you and learned things from your post.

However...

I think you misunderstood me and dont you think I am a lazy ass, complaining and crying about how life treats me. Not a fucking way, especially if you knew me personally. Although of all the negative stuff happening I keep going forward and I believe many people do the same.

After saying this, what I meant is that I fucking love programming. You are wrong about saying "every one is able to learn...". Not everyone is able to learn something if he/she doesnt have interest in it. I may spend 10hours to learn a freaking sentence in Spanish while someone else can do it in a minute. It takes me that long because I dont give a shit about learning that EVEN if I know I HAVE to learn it.

Programming and other technical stuff on the other hand I am able to learn much faster than other people that have less interest in. Never said I am a super programmer. Take it as you like.

Further more. When I said I cant generate content... Its not efficient to me to write a article about selling something if it takes me a whole day to make it half decent. So I guess that is called "I cant". Its not bad to identify your streangths and weaknesses and plan accordingly. Saying "I CANT" and finding an alternative root to the problem is not bad nor quitting.

That is why for my purpose I turned to programming to do that.

People have different strengths and weaknesses. It would be an utopia if everyone could do everything perfect. By saying DONT EVER SAY YOU CANT does not give you any real advantage if you really identify that you cannot do it that way. Do it fucking differently.

Anyway I hope you understand what I am talking about.

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So whats the point of this post? Well its not to say hey look at me I did it, its not to say you will do it but rather just to say that I personally hate it when people say they CANT do something.
Life is not a movie man. I am sorry but its the truth. It is nice and inspiring to say "DONT SAY YOU CANT" but the reality is not like that. It's all about adjusting yourself into the situation and try for the best. I dont mean you dont have to try. Of course you need to try. Try with your hardest. Didnt make it? Try again and again. The results are not good??? Then do it differently using your strong skills. But dont just keep trying the same thing if you see that you are not good at it.

Life is not a movie man.
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Life is not a movie man.
Well now that its explained some more I did mis-understand your post I thought you were just saying fuck it I give up so I figured maybe a harder type of motivational talk was in line.

I do agree 100% that you have to identify your strengths and weaknesses that is an essencial part of any business, trying to do everything yourself will just get you bogged down and won't get you as far as you may like.

I will also say that you made a good point on the learning spanish example but I won't comment on that too much because I do fully understand where you are coming from, its just that I think differently then you do and it might come off as an argument of who is right and wrong when in reality both would be right or wrong depending on the type of person reading it.

I'm more of a philosopher when it comes to learning, I feel that I can learn anything (Given a certain amount of time), however wanting to learn something and actually learning something are truly different things.

Anyway I'm off to bed.

Oh and one more thing haven't you heard as of last week Life is like a movie.
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On another note, Wickedfire pwns any other forum out there. Why? Because we don't sell people our knowledge, we impart it for free ....And whilst doing that teach others stuff that they didn't even know existed ...

Love the way how this thread is going and I am gonna contribute a heck lot now.

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On another note (new post different note ) some updates on the site I'm using for this example.

I'm up to about 100 unique per day now just from submitting various videos to various related sites. You know the whole take a video embed your site URL and re-upload.

It didn't take me all that long to gain 100 unique considering I started this late and was out of a internet connection last week. (I should have kept a time frame a bit better so I know how long it actually took to get that 100 unique).

I've also been getting an ok CTR for the banners on my site, I might cheat a bit and push about 30 to 50 bucks in PPC for a bit of a boost.

The site is also now indexed in the big G, last I checked there were about 28 pages indexed and here are the keywords (According to Google webmaster tools) that I'm currently ranking for.

Cute Sexy Women - #2
Sexy Nicole Stripping - #4
Sexy Women Stripping - #15
Women Stripping On Cam - #7
camgirl stripping - #10
cute sexy booty - #4

And a bunch of other terms, all this was done in well under a month at most 2 weeks tops, however I'm still waiting to get ranked for my main term which should garner me some good traffic, I've just got to push the backlinks some more and see what happens.
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They are some nice search terms to be listed for!

I'm back at square one again with income. Since my Blogs all died when i changed hosting i've had to start everything from scratch (bye bye $15 - $20 days! Oh how i miss you!)

But its all good, Psychoul and I have joined force and we are rocking the shit out of the Autoblog world.

I'm gonna take some time to work on hand built autoblogs though, instead of automating alot of it.

i.e. video blog, game review blog. Make it more appealing to the visitor and aim for far more return visitors than we get now. (Although you can't argue with 4842 uniques in the first week of our blog empire being live.)

What should we try next? Answers on a postcard.......
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One more question about wpmu and domains and then I promise I will stop (for today ). What do you have on the index page of your main domain if you have a whole bunch of random subdomains, none of which would tie together well? I guess you could do it like mike's Welcome to X7G.net (hey dude where's the love? you locked us out!!). And then my question would be can you disable the "create a new blog?" so that other random people aren't creating blogs?

Is there a better alternative for the main domain when using wpmu?
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