Anybody want to review my site? - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

Numbat · 08-06-2006, 12:31 AM

So, this is my first attempt at an Adsense site - I picked a poor niche for my first try. Too much competition, not enough traffic, and the keywords don't pay as well as google indicates (google keyword tool shows $10+, but clicks are only paying me like $0.25 each).

Regardless, please take a look and let me know what you think:
http://www.lhrhq.com/

I know that it sucks graphically, but I have no abilities in that area.

Fire away!

Andrew · 08-06-2006, 01:01 AM

For a pure MFA site, its not bad.

One thing I would do is link all the articles right on the front page i.e. "cost" "treatment time"

Headers should read "Houston Laser Hair Removal Clinics" not "Laser Hair Removal HQ - Houston Laser Hair Removal Clinics." Besides getting a better CTR is the SEs, it might even boost the listing.

I would add a ton of more pages, get a page up for at least 100 US cities.

A quick query of Overture gives me this:
78309 hair laser removal
6204 hair laser new removal york
3961 cost hair laser removal
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You should have a seperate page for every single keyphrase here. You can get more accurate data by joining Wordtracker.com and signing up for Adwords and using their tools. Try to go for at least 4 paragraphs of content per page, but its not mandatory.

You may be right, this niche may be too competative, but you can use this same approach to build a new page for a niche you think is better. I wouldn't focus on the high paying clicks but rather look at what has strong search volume and least results.

Jan · 08-06-2006, 04:49 AM

It's best to practice and learn on a site that may not get the traffic and then when you are ready, add the pages. Have them ready and be prepared. I practice on my blog that I have and after I move on, I'll keep it going and improve it. One never forgets their "first"!

I think some color would be great. It is fairly easy to do. How about a couple photos? Got a female friend or relative w/a mustache? Long leg hair?

dxearner · 08-07-2006, 12:26 AM

Here is a suggestion of mine. You really dont have to be really advanced at HTML/Web Design to come up with a decent site.
1) Go to a open source web design site and snag a good clean css website. They are free but you might ahve to notify the creator. A good site for that is http://www.oswd.org/ they have a great selection.
2) Then after you edit the site to your liking then I would move to content placement. Were as I think you topic is still marketable you might need to approach from a different angle. I think having landing pages for different cities is a great idea. 100 of them is another story. The reason I say this is because this is your first attempt.
3) I would incorporate some education on your site. You dont have to have a novel just some general info. Almost in blog or wordpress style. Make it appealing.
4) I dont think you need to much color. I like the white color theme in this since you are going for a medical field. Again it is the small things that add up. The more white to more sterile. Subconsciencely it might play to be a more learned source than a merid of colors. I would stick to professional in: content, pics, and layout with a lot of white space. These of course are suggestions.
5) Also next with the pages I would investigate if you can use some local sponsored search ads with the individual pages. It might boost those click rates.
6) Lastly what helped me out a lot in setting up websites is reading googles help article that involved heat mapping and ad placement. I believe it is on the adsense site. If I am also not mistaken there was a post about it as well. An admin can step in to confirm that.

These are some steps that I think would help drastically.

Numbat · 08-07-2006, 08:42 AM

Thank you all for the suggestions - I really appreciate it. I'm going to make some of the changes over the next day or two - I'll let you know when I've got something done.

Thanks again!

dxearner · 08-07-2006, 09:35 AM

I would like to clear up something I talked about.

When I said, "5) Also next with the pages I would investigate if you can use some local sponsored search ads with the individual pages. It might boost those click rates."

What this is pertaining to is if you make demographically specific pages for laser surgery. It will generate ad's specifically for that area and hopefully get you more ctr on your ads. Just some suggestions but a solid first effort. Looked better than mine. Keep it up and us posted.

katoved · 08-07-2006, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxearner

Here is a suggestion of mine. You really dont have to be really advanced at HTML/Web Design to come up with a decent site.
1) Go to a open source web design site and snag a good clean css website. They are free but you might ahve to notify the creator. A good site for that is www.oswd.org they have a great selection.
2) Then after you edit the site to your liking then I would move to content placement. Were as I think you topic is still marketable you might need to approach from a different angle. I think having landing pages for different cities is a great idea. 100 of them is another story. The reason I say this is because this is your first attempt.
3) I would incorporate some education on your site. You dont have to have a novel just some general info. Almost in blog or wordpress style. Make it appealing.
4) I dont think you need to much color. I like the white color theme in this since you are going for a medical field. Again it is the small things that add up. The more white to more sterile. Subconsciencely it might play to be a more learned source than a merid of colors. I would stick to professional in: content, pics, and layout with a lot of white space. These of course are suggestions.
5) Also next with the pages I would investigate if you can use some local sponsored search ads with the individual pages. It might boost those click rates.
6) Lastly what helped me out a lot in setting up websites is reading googles help article that involved heat mapping and ad placement. I believe it is on the adsense site. If I am also not mistaken there was a post about it as well. An admin can step in to confirm that.

These are some steps that I think would help drastically.

Your link doesnt work.

dxearner · 08-07-2006, 10:11 AM

My bad it is http://www.oswd.org/
Fixed on top as well thanks for point that out.

katoved · 08-07-2006, 10:32 AM

I was looking over some of the templates. Not bad. Does anyone else know of any other sites like this. I found it very useful.

dxearner · 08-07-2006, 10:50 AM

http://www.openwebdesign.org/ is another good one.

Just seach for open source websites or web design. Good Luck

dxearner · 08-07-2006, 02:48 PM

Also just some advice is to get a new more marketable domain. The current one doesnt seem to have any rhyme or reason to it. You are kind of limiting your type in traffic.

Numbat · 08-07-2006, 03:01 PM

All of the laser hair removal sites I could think of were taken either taken or waaaay too long - this is just the initials: Laser Hair Removal HQ (LHRHQ). But I agree - it doesn't make a ton of sense. I'll try some more to come up with a good one.

Thanks for the idea.

dxearner · 08-07-2006, 03:07 PM

Yea, Also this thread is what I refference with some layout tips that will help as well

http://wickedfire.com/showthread.php?t=1651

08-06-2006, 12:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
Numbat Fair to Middlin' Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Anybody want to review my site? So, this is my first attempt at an Adsense site - I picked a poor niche for my first try. Too much competition, not enough traffic, and the keywords don't pay as well as google indicates (google keyword tool shows $10+, but clicks are only paying me like $0.25 each). Regardless, please take a look and let me know what you think: http://www.lhrhq.com/ I know that it sucks graphically, but I have no abilities in that area. Fire away! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-06-2006, 01:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
Andrew Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,046 iTrader: 0 / 0%	For a pure MFA site, its not bad. One thing I would do is link all the articles right on the front page i.e. "cost" "treatment time" Headers should read "Houston Laser Hair Removal Clinics" not "Laser Hair Removal HQ - Houston Laser Hair Removal Clinics." Besides getting a better CTR is the SEs, it might even boost the listing. I would add a ton of more pages, get a page up for at least 100 US cities. A quick query of Overture gives me this: 78309 hair laser removal 6204 hair laser new removal york 3961 cost hair laser removal 3027 city hair laser new removal york 2927 hair information laser removal 2808 hair laser ny removal 2634 hair laser price removal 2531 hair laser manhattan removal 2484 hair laser permanent removal 2224 chicago hair laser removal 1973 hair island laser long removal 1869 hair laser maryland removal 1859 diego hair laser removal san 1821 hair laser nyc removal 1779 atlanta hair laser removal 1766 facial hair laser removal 1509 county hair laser orange removal 1437 florida hair laser removal 1437 francisco hair laser removal san 1426 hair laser machine removal 1416 hair laser ny removal specialist 1411 hair laser removal treatment 1379 hair in laser new removal york 1376 hair houston laser removal 1367 angeles hair in laser los removal 1334 chicago hair in laser removal 1327 diego hair in laser removal san 1321 hair laser pubic removal 1321 hair laser removal training 1318 hair laser price removal toronto 1318 hair laser removal virginia 1296 atlanta hair laser permanent removal 1285 hair laser maryland permanent removal 1275 facial hair laser maryland removal 1263 dc hair laser permanent removal washington 1249 hair laser miami removal 1240 dc hair laser removal washington 1235 hair laser permanent removal virginia 1230 back hair laser maryland removal 1197 equipment hair laser removal 1168 hair home laser removal 1160 hair laser removal surgery 1143 boston hair laser removal 1127 hair jersey laser new removal 1121 clinic hair laser removal 1107 denver hair laser removal 1098 bikini hair laser removal 1098 hair laser nj removal 1074 hair laser man removal 1068 hair laser removal texas 1038 dallas hair laser removal 1036 hair laser philadelphia removal 1011 hair laser removal toronto 1000 effects hair laser removal side 990 austin hair laser removal 989 hair laser michigan removal 980 back hair laser removal 975 florida hair in laser removal 974 hair laser removal tampa 950 angeles hair laser los removal 942 hair laser phoenix removal 938 connecticut hair laser removal 908 hair indianapolis laser removal 907 hair laser minneapolis removal 904 arizona hair laser removal 902 hair laser removal school 882 hair in laser nyc removal 881 hair laser removal seattle 876 hair las laser removal vegas 871 fort hair laser removal worth 869 hair laser orlando removal 857 cost hair laser removal typical 850 hair laser picture removal 831 hair laser removal sacramento 825 city hair kansas laser removal 825 hair laser metro removal 822 colorado hair laser removal 819 center hair laser removal 813 forum hair laser removal 812 affordable hair laser removal 812 atlanta hair in laser removal 811 danger hair laser removal 809 hair laser removal system 806 ct hair laser removal 785 epila hair laser removal 779 hair laser removal vancouver 768 edmonton hair laser removal 766 calgary hair laser removal 762 hair laser removal risk 756 hair laser pregnancy removal 755 hair laser photo removal 754 antonio hair laser removal san 754 hair laser removal utah 749 hair laser removal uk 748 hair laser massachusetts removal 734 hair laser removal review 733 hair laser louis removal st 730 by hair laser removal 729 average cost hair laser removal 726 hair laser minnesota removal You should have a seperate page for every single keyphrase here. You can get more accurate data by joining Wordtracker.com and signing up for Adwords and using their tools. Try to go for at least 4 paragraphs of content per page, but its not mandatory. You may be right, this niche may be too competative, but you can use this same approach to build a new page for a niche you think is better. I wouldn't focus on the high paying clicks but rather look at what has strong search volume and least results. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-06-2006, 04:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jan Resident GILF Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 1,151 iTrader: 13 / 100%	It's best to practice and learn on a site that may not get the traffic and then when you are ready, add the pages. Have them ready and be prepared. I practice on my blog that I have and after I move on, I'll keep it going and improve it. One never forgets their "first"! I think some color would be great. It is fairly easy to do. How about a couple photos? Got a female friend or relative w/a mustache? Long leg hair? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Failure is when you stop trying...DON'T STOP TRYING! 24 hour article delivery Jan's Writing Services Jan's Ideas Ways to Save Money

08-07-2006, 12:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
dxearner Happy MoneyMaking Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: US Posts: 117 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Here is a suggestion of mine. You really dont have to be really advanced at HTML/Web Design to come up with a decent site. 1) Go to a open source web design site and snag a good clean css website. They are free but you might ahve to notify the creator. A good site for that is http://www.oswd.org/ they have a great selection. 2) Then after you edit the site to your liking then I would move to content placement. Were as I think you topic is still marketable you might need to approach from a different angle. I think having landing pages for different cities is a great idea. 100 of them is another story. The reason I say this is because this is your first attempt. 3) I would incorporate some education on your site. You dont have to have a novel just some general info. Almost in blog or wordpress style. Make it appealing. 4) I dont think you need to much color. I like the white color theme in this since you are going for a medical field. Again it is the small things that add up. The more white to more sterile. Subconsciencely it might play to be a more learned source than a merid of colors. I would stick to professional in: content, pics, and layout with a lot of white space. These of course are suggestions. 5) Also next with the pages I would investigate if you can use some local sponsored search ads with the individual pages. It might boost those click rates. 6) Lastly what helped me out a lot in setting up websites is reading googles help article that involved heat mapping and ad placement. I believe it is on the adsense site. If I am also not mistaken there was a post about it as well. An admin can step in to confirm that. These are some steps that I think would help drastically. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6...kedfireub4.gif http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9...r157656gc8.gif http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2...r155029ud1.gif http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2...r155033hu1.gif PM me if you are interested in Website Monetization Consulting. +Rep Points are for Bitches-Kyleirwin

08-07-2006, 08:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
Numbat Fair to Middlin' Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Thank you all for the suggestions - I really appreciate it. I'm going to make some of the changes over the next day or two - I'll let you know when I've got something done. Thanks again! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-07-2006, 09:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
dxearner Happy MoneyMaking Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: US Posts: 117 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I would like to clear up something I talked about. When I said, "5) Also next with the pages I would investigate if you can use some local sponsored search ads with the individual pages. It might boost those click rates." What this is pertaining to is if you make demographically specific pages for laser surgery. It will generate ad's specifically for that area and hopefully get you more ctr on your ads. Just some suggestions but a solid first effort. Looked better than mine. Keep it up and us posted. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6...kedfireub4.gif http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9...r157656gc8.gif http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2...r155029ud1.gif http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2...r155033hu1.gif PM me if you are interested in Website Monetization Consulting. +Rep Points are for Bitches-Kyleirwin

08-07-2006, 10:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
dxearner Happy MoneyMaking Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: US Posts: 117 iTrader: 0 / 0%	My bad it is http://www.oswd.org/ Fixed on top as well thanks for point that out. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6...kedfireub4.gif http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9...r157656gc8.gif http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2...r155029ud1.gif http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2...r155033hu1.gif PM me if you are interested in Website Monetization Consulting. +Rep Points are for Bitches-Kyleirwin

08-07-2006, 10:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
katoved Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,313 iTrader: 2 / 75%	I was looking over some of the templates. Not bad. Does anyone else know of any other sites like this. I found it very useful. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-07-2006, 10:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
dxearner Happy MoneyMaking Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: US Posts: 117 iTrader: 0 / 0%	http://www.openwebdesign.org/ is another good one. Just seach for open source websites or web design. Good Luck Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6...kedfireub4.gif http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9...r157656gc8.gif http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2...r155029ud1.gif http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2...r155033hu1.gif PM me if you are interested in Website Monetization Consulting. +Rep Points are for Bitches-Kyleirwin

08-07-2006, 02:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
dxearner Happy MoneyMaking Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: US Posts: 117 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Also just some advice is to get a new more marketable domain. The current one doesnt seem to have any rhyme or reason to it. You are kind of limiting your type in traffic. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6...kedfireub4.gif http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9...r157656gc8.gif http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2...r155029ud1.gif http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2...r155033hu1.gif PM me if you are interested in Website Monetization Consulting. +Rep Points are for Bitches-Kyleirwin

08-07-2006, 03:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
Numbat Fair to Middlin' Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Domain name All of the laser hair removal sites I could think of were taken either taken or waaaay too long - this is just the initials: Laser Hair Removal HQ (LHRHQ). But I agree - it doesn't make a ton of sense. I'll try some more to come up with a good one. Thanks for the idea. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

08-07-2006, 03:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
dxearner Happy MoneyMaking Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: US Posts: 117 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yea, Also this thread is what I refference with some layout tips that will help as well http://wickedfire.com/showthread.php?t=1651 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6...kedfireub4.gif http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9...r157656gc8.gif http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2...r155029ud1.gif http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2...r155033hu1.gif PM me if you are interested in Website Monetization Consulting. +Rep Points are for Bitches-Kyleirwin

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