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RoscoeT · 03-01-2008, 09:35 PM

Hey All,

I was looking at DP (yeah, I know) and I saw a whole bunch of proxy sites for sale. Call me a noob if you want. But I am not sure how these sites make any money at all. Is it people using scripts to force clicks on their ads or what?

Could someone break it down for me?

Thanks

fm1234 · 03-02-2008, 08:36 PM

Typical proxy monetisation is AdSense on the outside, AdBrite on the inside. No scripts/forcing necessary.

Frank

MDSandB · 03-02-2008, 08:58 PM

If it was making them huge chums of money then why would they sell it???

m0rtal · 03-02-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MDSandB

If it was making them huge chums of money then why would they sell it???

They do make good coin but they are a pain in the ass to maintain.

RoscoeT · 03-03-2008, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fm1234

Typical proxy monetisation is AdSense on the outside, AdBrite on the inside. No scripts/forcing necessary.
Frank

How to you mean about inside and out?

I guess I see that they have ads all over the site when you first get there. But once you use the proxy, there are none. Can you use adbrite on the "inside" like you mention? If so what would be the method?

schoolishard · 03-03-2008, 04:52 AM

Proxy is saturated and most users are savvy enough to avoid ads.

And *bonk* for surfing DP to buy something.

StarkReality · 03-03-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by schoolishard

And *bonk* for surfing DP to buy something.

Hehe, yep. The people at DP sell them for a reason: makes them alot more than running them. Totally oversaturated, so establishing a new one is a pain...

necromancer · 03-03-2008, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0rtal

They do make good coin but they are a pain in the ass to maintain.

How so?

bubbles · 03-03-2008, 12:06 PM

I ran a proxy network for a few months. Basically they get about a 5% CTR with adsense on the front page, so if you are doing a few thousand impressions a day with well targeted ads it turns into a nice chunk of change. Then you run pop ups on the proxified pages since adsense isn't allowed there.

Its not as oversaturated as people think. Proxies get blocked, and people suck at running servers so there is always someone looking for a new one. You have to be very careful about how you get your traffic (china will rape you in the ass and leave you for dead).

My first try I made $50 profit my first month, but I was constantly dealing with server downtime and shit, wasn't worth it for me.

audax · 03-03-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbles

You have to be very careful about how you get your traffic (china will rape you in the ass and leave you for dead).

Do a reverse IP to location look up and just block all non-US or unwanted traffic.

m0rtal · 03-03-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by necromancer

How so?

Cuz they can suck up server resources faster than jenna jameson can suck a ...

Yaxxx · 03-03-2008, 02:47 PM

Yup adsense on the front page, adbrite on the proxified pages. Paypopup.com on both.

Buy about 100 .info's, submit one to goodwaiter, all to proxy.org and get about 10 people on DP to stumble em all. Easily get up to $30 a day and then sell for a couple months rev.

Oh, and I host @ alloy hosting.

bubbles · 03-03-2008, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audax

Do a reverse IP to location look up and just block all non-US or unwanted traffic.

I ended up just doing block a country, block by ip address, deny access by country

fm1234 · 03-03-2008, 08:27 PM

RoscoeT

Yaxx pretty well answered the question -- by "outside" and "inside" I was referring to the proxified and non-proxified pages.

I've also been experimenting with other forms of promotion on the prxofied pages, as I first mentioned url=http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate-marketing/20222-question-proxy-owners.html]here[/url] but not been long enough to give any sort of meaningful feedback.

Frank

necromancer · 03-03-2008, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0rtal

Cuz they can suck up server resources faster than jenna jameson can suck a ...

She's retired remember?

neuromancer · 03-11-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bubbles

I ended up just doing block a country, block by ip address, deny access by country

Block a country - .htaccess method eats lots of memory. GeoIP free database with mod_geoip is the best I have found to block non converting traffic from China & Iran [No offence there for good people]
It's hard to keep proxies with other sites so hosting them on a separate VPSor dedicated server is a must. That way you fine tune apache & php for proxies.

tempest · 03-23-2008, 04:22 PM

I have started venturing into the proxy waters as well, thanks for all the good info.
Does anyone have a list of IP's of filter company bots? I would like to cloak my proxies from them

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RoscoeT Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 16 iTrader: (0)	Proxy Sites - Making money... Hey All, I was looking at DP (yeah, I know) and I saw a whole bunch of proxy sites for sale. Call me a noob if you want. But I am not sure how these sites make any money at all. Is it people using scripts to force clicks on their ads or what? Could someone break it down for me? Thanks

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schoolishard Hep Me Make the Moneys Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 54 iTrader: (2)	Proxy is saturated and most users are savvy enough to avoid ads. And bonk for surfing DP to buy something. __________________ College Information for Smart Students - Digg something if you like it.

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bubbles Domainers... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 796 iTrader: (3)	I ran a proxy network for a few months. Basically they get about a 5% CTR with adsense on the front page, so if you are doing a few thousand impressions a day with well targeted ads it turns into a nice chunk of change. Then you run pop ups on the proxified pages since adsense isn't allowed there. Its not as oversaturated as people think. Proxies get blocked, and people suck at running servers so there is always someone looking for a new one. You have to be very careful about how you get your traffic (china will rape you in the ass and leave you for dead). My first try I made $50 profit my first month, but I was constantly dealing with server downtime and shit, wasn't worth it for me. __________________ Best Regarded Google Webmaster Mr Khanceff John

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03-02-2008, 08:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
fm1234 My Other Ride is Your Mom Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 579 iTrader: (6)	Typical proxy monetisation is AdSense on the outside, AdBrite on the inside. No scripts/forcing necessary. Frank

03-03-2008, 02:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
Yaxxx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 101 iTrader: (1)	Yup adsense on the front page, adbrite on the proxified pages. Paypopup.com on both. Buy about 100 .info's, submit one to goodwaiter, all to proxy.org and get about 10 people on DP to stumble em all. Easily get up to $30 a day and then sell for a couple months rev. Oh, and I host @ alloy hosting.

03-03-2008, 08:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
fm1234 My Other Ride is Your Mom Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 579 iTrader: (6)	RoscoeT Yaxx pretty well answered the question -- by "outside" and "inside" I was referring to the proxified and non-proxified pages. I've also been experimenting with other forms of promotion on the prxofied pages, as I first mentioned url=http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate-marketing/20222-question-proxy-owners.html]here[/url] but not been long enough to give any sort of meaningful feedback. Frank

03-23-2008, 04:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
tempest Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 11 iTrader: (0)	I have started venturing into the proxy waters as well, thanks for all the good info. Does anyone have a list of IP's of filter company bots? I would like to cloak my proxies from them

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