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Old 05-21-2008, 10:16 AM   #51 (permalink)
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@CCLIND normally, you get the access data (URL, username, password) and then you go and log into cpanel.

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In keeping with mattgatten's addition to the offer, I'll throw in help with WP for anyone who needs it. I have been working with WP for a while now, and have built out several different memes of it (WP is way way way more than just a stupid online diary application, in case that hasn't crossed your minds yet.) If anyone in this batch wants to PM me I can help you with:

1) Finding the WP layout that is best for your niche and presentation (ie. how to make a video site out of WP, how to make a social networking site, how to make a magazine, etc.)

2) Comparing different plugins that do similar things, getting them installed and configured for your needs.

3) Basic theme/template editing. I do not do graphics and I do not do aesthetic design, but as far as CSS, layouts and the basic colour scheme go I can help you get it looking like you want.

4) Finding, setting up and managing feeds.

5) "SEO infrastructure" for WP (getting title tags write, permalink management, sitemap setup etc.

This is free help, so it will be largely around my own schedule, but I'll try to get our timetables lined up well enough so that you aren't standing around waiting for me to help (come to think of it, if "standing around waiting for help" is your thing you should probably quit now and go work at Hardee's.)

This is only for the newbies in this case study, and only for the sites indexed to the domains and hosting that Mike has so generously put up. Please don't go asking me to build out other stuff for you, unless you bring money.


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Looks like the domain is resolving now. Here is some info for you guys.

I didn't see it posted here anywhere. To get to your control panel cPanel, use
Code:
http://yourdomain.com:2082
Then it's just username and password.

I'm a cPanel vet. If you need help with something in there, let me know.

Another thing too. Google sees these two addresses as different sites:

I put in the spaces and 'dots' to let you see it better.

Code:
 
http: // yourdomain dot com
 
and 
 
http: // www dot yourdomain dot com
You want to use one or the other. Most suggest the 2nd one. The fully qualified domain name.

To get around folks using both address styles in links and such you can modify your .htaccess file inside the www or public_html folder.

Place this code in there and change 'yourdomain' to the actual domain name.

Code:
"again, remove the spaces in the domain parts, put the urls in there 
and save it in your .htaccess file".
 
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^(.*)\.yourdomain\.com$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http: // www dot yourdomain dot com /$1 [R=301,L]
Do that before you put your first link out there. That way everything gets written to the full URL. Try it out and see for yourself.

Or go to my new domain by typing

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without the spaces!
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My progress so far with this domain.

1. I've used the Google Keywords Tool, Keyword Tracker (free version) freekeywords.wordtracker.com to identify the keywords I want to use. I'm settling for the best 4-6 keywords I can come up with. I plan to concentrate on no more than 4 keywords for each page.

2. I've looked at the competition using google search tricks like:
allintitle: www dot domainname dot com
allinanchor: www dot domainname dot com
link: www dot domainname dot com
site: www dot domainname dot com
linkdomain: www dot domainname dot com (good one. Tells you the domains that link to the targeted domain).

3. Determined how I'll lay out my content structure. For mine, I'm planning on content pages for each year of the Honda accord. Wordtracker indicated that lots of searches are going on for the individual years. ie. 1999 Accord or 1999 Honda Accord. I want focused pages for each with 3 or 4 pieces of content on each. (The title tags, header info, and year model specific content will be dynamically inserted into each page allowing me to use a template for each). Will probably be the introductory article for each year.

4. Started locating content from around the various resources (article directories, wikipedia, etc) and rewriting things to be original on my site. In addition, I'm 'finding' images that I'll massage with Photoshop. (This is the time consuming part until I get my scraper finished).

5. In parallel, I'm installing wordpress and an 'adsense/YPN friendly' theme and I have to call Samantha at NeverblueAds this evening to finishing setting me up on their network.

Feedback appreciated: If I'm doing something out of order or wrong let me know. Teach me to fish, don't give me a fish.

I'll keep folks posted on my progress.
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Not so much for the 'mentors' in this thread but to keep everyone motivated, here is the latest version of my site. I created a graphic for the top of the page. Nothing super fancy. Have a look. Honda Accords | Honda Accords - Resources, History, Parts, and Accessories

Are we having fun yet?

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Hey Matt

Looking good so far. I'll be posting my progress with GlitterGrafix soon. In the middle of some lovely lovely kw reasearch - venturing into the world of zwinkys and mobile submits by the looks of things!

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My Case Study: FANTASYPINUPART.COM

My Progress so far for FANTASYPINUPART.COM
Where I'm getting hung up is on time. Gonna have to do this after the kid goes down (ok...nuff whining)

day 1
  1. I did market research and keyword research last night. Found some other niches along the way.
  2. I signed up for my EPN account. EBay had some good high ticket items.
  3. Got my buddy to start a header graphic for the site (should be done by Sunday). I want it to look good as well as make a buck
  4. Downloaded WP
  5. Got rss feeds into my rss reader from blogs, news, etc for content for the site.
day 2 (tomorrow night 5/23, I got a date with the wife tonight )
  1. upload wp
  2. get an ebay pluging for WP and install. If anyone knows of a decent one to use with EPN, please let me know.
  3. sign up with neverblueads , Copeac
  4. Look for other affiliate possibilities
  5. start putting up content
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Are we having fun yet?
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@mattgatten - Great start! Checked out the site and it looks good! Just keep going

@atomboy - Can't wait to see what you come up with. I actually bought that domain because I love pin up stuff. Betty Page, Olivia, etc. BTW, in case you haven't, sign up for the affiliate program at Allposters.com They have a lot of pin up art posters for sale.

@mediastar - check with your affiliate manager and ask them what does well with your site (if you haven't already) Sounds like you have more planned / done than you're letting on, so I won't bother you too much.
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@matt - how are you planning to monetize this?
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I wanted to get lots of content with my keywords in there first. Looking at google searches, I found that "honda accord" was really competitive (in the millions). I noticed that "honda accords" (plural) was down around 100k. I decided those were the two main keywords I would target. Now year model - honda accord gets a decent amount of searches so I though I would make categories for each year model and try and rake traffic from those 'tertiary' search phrases. (Am I thinking correctly here?)

Money: Well, I was thinking about numerous avenues. I hear zip submits are something you want to hold off on if you're a noobie. I was thinking about the car insurance quote leads, car loans, etc. Maybe some YPN. I don't know for sure. I wanted to get content up first then go into the monetization.

I just got off the phone with Samantha (hottie) over at NB last night and I'm pretty excited. I've always tried CJ.com but NB has some really neat looking stuff.

I'm very open to suggestions on what avenue (high level category) of monetization to take. Like I said. Teach me to fish, don't give me a fish. So, let me hear ya.

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Traffic - Exactly Dick!
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Plans - Keep adding content, find a few aff offers, links between posts (internal).
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matt...

you're on the right track.

NB is great. I think you might be too early in trying to run something from that network though. My suggestion to you is to build up the traffic and try to monetize it with something like PHPBayPro using the ebay affiliate program. There are tons of great items related to Hondas you can promote.

Good work so far. Keep it up.
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Ok, I'm curious then. I didn't read anything around the site that said, 'Noobs should stay away from the 'heavy hitter' Aff Networks'. Why is NB or Copeac out of a noobs league? Just curious.

So should I fill it with EBay Auctions and YPN ads? I guess my question is, how is it 'harder' with the NB offers (ouside of email/zip submits?).

Thanks again, You guys have given me a ton of info already.
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im interested in doing this too. i've been reading up on it for a while now and i figured better now than never.

so far i have:
- bought the domain RedHotDealDays.com (verizon sales promotions)
- got approved with neverblueads

the biggest problem right now is that i need hosting. I know you are letting people use your domains, but i was wondering if you could host mine. I'm here to learn and will absorb all information thrown at me.

I look forward to working with all of you and getting my first campaign started
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- Google analytics installed and tracking
- Categories are going in. Most posts will fall under 2 categories minimum.
- Content scraped from tons of places, re-wording and re-typing as you read this.
- Making sure each post gets a link or two to another post as I add them.
- Back-dating the time stamps on the posts as I ad them to give the impression of a more 'mature' site.

Future: As I get closer to 50-60 articles, I'm going to hire the directory submission Ninjas to help me out. I'm thinking 500-1000. Thoughts from the 'teachers': How soon do you hire the directory submission Ninjas? How many directory submissions do you buy?
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Ok, I'm curious then. I didn't read anything around the site that said, 'Noobs should stay away from the 'heavy hitter' Aff Networks'. Why is NB or Copeac out of a noobs league? Just curious.

So should I fill it with EBay Auctions and YPN ads? I guess my question is, how is it 'harder' with the NB offers (ouside of email/zip submits?).
I personally feel that Copeac, etc is pretty much the same damn thing as ebay partner network (epn). At it's basic level, they are all ads that bring in revenue. For your site, I personally like the option of giving car related ads from aff networks better. Ads can target insurance, loans, etc pretty easily from a decent network. Do that and drop some adsense (less is more) in place and your monetization is up to par.

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IMHO, directories are a good addition to a mature link building campaign, not a replacement for one. For this test you have a month to make money ... most free directories (which is what they will submit to) won't even review your site in that amount of time.

My best suggestion for links would be to A> comment on some digg, sphinn or reddit stories that are blogs that allow links on your name. Spiders frequent these places and will know your site exists almost immediately. B> pick up a sig link somewhere (like dp or hopefully a car forum) for $10 / ~500 posts.

Doing the above 2 things will get your site noticed and help bring in a few visitors so you can start looking at your log files and optimizing the site. Thats when you will really know how best to get more traffic and monetize the traffic you have.
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Ok, now my turn. I picked up the site Content Links from Mike.

I'd like to give an example to rookies that there are more ways to make money online than just content driven MFA sites. Some noobs have experience in different things that they can market ... mine happens to be programming.

About my site - Content links provides a program that allows developers the ability to add links from their sites (html / blog / forum) to other sites. The key here is that the anchor text spans a couple of words rather than just a 1 word link. This is great for flying under Google's radar when linkbuilding as the anchor text is almost always unique. The script pulls XML from a single source so you can install this program on many sites and they all pull from the same words to drop links. Using the script is simple <? include 'script.php' ; echo content_links($content) ; ?>. Also, I see a wordpress plugin in the near future.

How to monetize - Well that's the easy part ... sell a script, make the dollars. Getting the site out there will be the only challenge but there are plenty of software directories (hotscripts, etc) and webmaster forums that will have users in my target audience.

About the search engines - Natural traffic will probably be down the road a bit for this site as I really haven't done any keyword research. I figure there will be enough webmasters in arms distance to make this launch a success, organic will come later. Once I come up with my price point some PPC action might be happening also.

I'd like to see a couple of people put up some different type sites here in this thread (newsletters, e-commerce, subscription) so that the noobs can start thinking outside the box of MFA sites. That's where most start and why most fail ... the money is not there for single sites and requires replication.
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On a more personal note, Thanks again Mike for offering help to the newbies of the interwebs. I'm looking to give back to the community also so what I'm shooting for it this ...

50% of sales for this script when someone enters some code (like "WFrocks") will head directly to Mike's Paypal. As it stands now there is a finite number of domains and a monthly hosting bill. I'd like to help out here so this WF - The Last Hope For Newbies thread lives forever in infamy.

After checking out content links, which is linked in an above post, & playing with the demo, please post some suggestions here about what I should charge for unlimited domain use of this script. I'm thinking around $60 but would like some suggestions. A decent programmer could write something like this in a day or so. I feel charging an hour's worth of their time would make the script more appealing to buy than hack. Your thoughts?

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hey I was wondering if I could get in on this thing. I've been reading up on it for quite some time now and figured better now than never.

things I've done so far:
- bought the domain RedHotDealDays.com (current verizon promotion)
- got approved by neverblueads

The problem is that I don't not have hosting for my domain at the moment. I was wondering if you could help me out with that, just to get started. I'm here to learn and expand my knowledge in this field. I hope to one day become as successful as some of the other members here, but realize "i must crawl before i can walk"

thanks for all of your help and i look forward to working with all of you.
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hey everyone! here's what i got so far: i'm building realstudentloan.com and i've found two candidates for loan affiliate programs. kinda hard to find those. : P anyway i've gotten a good idea of the look i want the site to have. now what? should i just build it, throw links/banners on it, put it online, and then focus on seo? that seems like the most straighforward way, but since it's a first for me i'm kinda lost.... any help?
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Thanks Mike.
Yep, that was one of the things on my to do list.
since I'm at my J.O.B I'll have to keep this short.
I really like the tools all posters has for building stuff out

Yeah I really like pinups also. So it pulled me.
I've got around 150 keywords with a results/search ration of 300 or less.
about 30 of those have over 100 searches a day and page counts less than 30K. So that initial batch of 30 keywords & phrases is where I'm focusing my initial content acquisition efforts.

I'm also gonna do a few slide show videos with a watermark and load that up on video sites. Something like this: YouTube - Candy Pin-Up Girls !! ♥♥♥

I'll be sorting through the content tonight, and back dating the posts.
I'm gonna install PHPBay also. and get that all rolling.

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@atomboy - Can't wait to see what you come up with. I actually bought that domain because I love pin up stuff. Betty Page, Olivia, etc. BTW, in case you haven't, sign up for the affiliate program at Allposters.com They have a lot of pin up art posters for sale.
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That's a nice gesture erect, but how about this: put it into more hosting so we can expand this for even more people. If you send it to me, that's where it'll go anyhow.
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Fuckyeah Wow - Great Offer

I'd definately be interested in the FOREXPROFESOR.COM

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That's a nice gesture erect, but how about this: put it into more hosting so we can expand this for even more people. If you send it to me, that's where it'll go anyhow.
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As it stands now there is a finite number of domains and a monthly hosting bill. I'd like to help out here so this WF - The Last Hope For Newbies thread lives forever in infamy.
Yea, that's where I was kind of going with the whole "finite number" thing. The 20-ish domains will probably be taken up soon and hosting is not free, I figure I'd keep pumping money into this (assuming the script sells) so we can sustain this offer to many others in the future.

I'd like to keep this as simple as possible. Shoot me your paypal address and every other purchase I'll have the customer directly pay to you ... It'll just rotate between our accounts in the script.

Sounds ok to you?

Your thoughts on contentlinks.org script? marketing? pricing?
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Groovy. PM sent. I'll read your other post on what the script is supposed to do again and get back to you on this tomorrow. I'm about to fall asleep at the wheel right now.
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Hey Mike, you also said a stipulation was a link for you. What do you want it to point to and what do you want in the anchor text. Any rules on where it's displayed?

I'll be a page rank 10 in a few more days (lmfao) so holler back quick!

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Naw, the link back was a joke (as was the stipulation for cookies, although I could use some Lorna Doones)
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Just to update people on my progress so far.

As Mike pointed out yeah i have got a few things well under way with the glittergrafix site so far. Here is what I have so far -

Keyword Research - initial runs done for the minute

Revenue streams - Im already signed up with NB so Im picking offers at the minute. Adsense and email / list building

I have spent all today learning / downloading DreamWeaver - i am going fucking nuts. I always knew this was going to be the bottle kneck on this project since i have no knowledge or experience of doing this type of thing in the past. I reckon it will another two days before i can get the LP sorted.


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Bone throwing time...

One of the few domains in that list that isn't going to expire in the next 60 - 90 days is SantaRadar.net

So, why the hell would someone want a Christmas domain in May? Well, to get top ranking for the right keywords by Christmas time, duh! Check this out:

The keyword "santa radar" gets around 477 searches per day, in the early part of the year!! Imagine how many searches it gets in late October - December. Now, let's look at the SERPs for "santa radar". On the datacenter I pulled up, #1 was NoradSanta.org, after that, there's not a lot of competition. Looking at Google using "allinanchor:santa radar" we see our buddy still #1, searching "allintext:santa radar" shows the number 2 site showing up as number one. So, number one and two are pretty entrenched. It may be tough to knock them out by Christmas, but maybe not. Worst case, with a little work, you'll be number 3.

What does number 3 for "santa radar" translate into money wise? Well, let me throw some rough estimates at you. First, we know that the 477 daily searches it's getting right now are really low compared to what it will be getting, so figure approximately 10 times that for the Christmas season (it's probably closer to 100 times, but we'll be conservative). That means about 5000 daily searches, at number three, you can figure you'll get around 1000 hits to your site.

Now, let's put a good offer up there...like, say...Letters to Santa. I'm not sure, but I think those usually pay pretty well, over $10 per conversion. BTW, PrimaryAds has a Letters to Santa campaign, but the bastards wouldn't approve me. Oh well, such is life.

Time for math...

1000 uniques per day
Targeted offer - converts around 8% (low, but I like to figure low)
Pays $10 per conversion
Equals about 80 conversions per day
Times $10 = $800 per day

Not bad. Granted, it's not going to make that much right now, but you should still be able to convert something. If nothing else, put up a different offer until Christmas time.

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I have spent all today learning / downloading DreamWeaver - i am going fucking nuts. I always knew this was going to be the bottle kneck on this project since i have no knowledge or experience of doing this type of thing in the past. I reckon it will another two days before i can get the LP sorted.


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Ouch, I remember learning DW long ago. It had a steep learning curve for me. I've always recommended MS Frontpage for n00bies. It's great for getting you up and running and comfortable with a HTML editor, and once you outgrow FP, DW will be waiting. Now, for those of you hissing and booing about Frontpage, remember I only recommend it for beginners. Most people will outgrow it very quickly, but it is easy to use, and that's the most important thing in the beginning.

If you like banging your head against the wall and want to stick with DW, great! DW is a great tool. Just try and learn as much HTML as you can. It will help immensely. If you try to rely on DW's GUI and tools to build sites, you won't really learn how to code, and that will hinder you later on.

So, if you're a REAL glutton for punishment, put away all the fancy IDE's (Integrated Development Enviroments) and bust out Textpad or Notepad++ and do it the old fashioned way. And find a decent template you like at Open Source Web Design. They're free and fairly simple / intuitive.
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Wow. I'd love to have pinkapplemacbook.com if that's still available?!
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I'm on.

Installing the latest Wordpress on the server now.

Scraping for images / content & affiliate networks. Should have a rough page up by tomorrow.
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I'll take Editorialize.org since nobody else seems to want it. Should be fun to try and develop. Thanks for the great offer Mike.
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Ok, so I've got FTP access to proSEOtools.net and... I don't know what to do. I've never designed a webpage before, so should I put in the time to learn with Frontpage or go with one of the free WYSIWYG html editors Mike posted? Wordpress even?

What type of page should I go with? A blog like Matt's or a straight up single LP made to convert an offer(s)?

Thanks for the help and suggestions everyone.
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OK - the DreamWeaver learning curve continues. Head is officially melted but i think im making some progress on the landing page. I have got the basic layout sorted just need to tweak and find some actual content that I can rehash and make unique.

Would appreciate all comments on the page so far. A the minute its missing meta tags and some other bits and pieces.

Questions now are -

How can i optimise for seo - are there any widgets / links i need to leave room for?
Adsense placements - Good, Bad or Ugly?
NB banner - I think it works, considering target audience.

Want to focus on the Myspace "glitter" seeking audience so want to target content to females 15-24.

Taking longer than i had hoped for basic design...All comments appreciated

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Updates on GlitterGrafix

The DreamWeaver saga continues. Cheers for the heads up on FP Mike - think since ive got stuck into this one and have spent most of the weekend trying to get something together i'll stick with this and see how it works out.

I have a very rough version of my LP about 50% complete. I have settled on a look that i think will appeal to my target audience - 15-24 females, glitter fans - basically the tweeny Myspace market.

Its missing the following (still to be added)

Logo (any designers willing to step in?)
Meta Tags
Email capture (im using vertical response - should i change to aweber?)

I like Matts way of including RSS type buttons - any ideas on how i can add this using DW?

Also any advice on other seo friendly additions to the LP or just general comments about the page so far would be greatly appreciated.

Latest version of the site - Untitled Document

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OK, I had a boatload of work to get out of the way but now Im down to only half a boatload.

My plan for the site so far is as follows

Joomla
Rss Feeds
Google Analytics
Adsense

Google webmaster tools/site map submission
Submission to directories/social networking
Limited amount of article content submitted to directories.
Place Affiliate offers for phones/accessories ect
Link to a blog I already own on smartphones.

Find out if competing networks allow ads on the same domain as others.
"" same page
***begin adwords campaign after site and offers are up***

Forum posting about offers
Real world marketing, goal is to make at least one sale in the time alloted if not more.

Obviously these baby steps wont set the world on fire ,but this is all stuff I can get done by myself. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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hazzan, nice!

I'm currently editing a wordpress theme and I've made a very sexy header image for it.

Still on the hunt for affiliate networks. Ebay -> CJ could be a go? But I would be interested in working with other networks that I've found around here.

To add onto hazzans list - places like Topix, Yahoo Answers!, Craiglists even....
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Mediastar & blueRAP is having some problems getting down the development side and this will probably be a big stumbling block for noobies everywhere. So, about the html / dreamweaver/ m$ frontpage stuff ... I basically see things 2 ways.

1. You don't want to learn HTML. Ok, Mike's hosting doesn't have fantastico so just Download, skin & learn to use wordpress. It's very easy be up and running in 1 hour and totally free.

2. Learn to hack html. You don't have to be a pro to make a decent looking website. If you have no skills or are very basic, read the following. It will take about 2-3 hours to download and read everything below and get started in building web pages and won't cost you a penny (all software is free). PHP, databases and all the rest will come after you are very familiar with HTML, HTML is a required pre-requisite.
@ Mediastar

That layout is going to be perfect for the myspacers of the world because it gives me a headache. Seriously, I know it doesn't sound like a compliment but it totally is perfect for your user's demographics. The following are my suggestions about the layout.

- Your adsense/jamster placements are perfect
- make the pink colors match
- switch the background color of adsense to something more eyecatching (read: lighter) so it stands out
- add some shimmering pictures

If you don't know much about SEO stuff, here is a 1 hour crash course about the basics.

SEO friendly pointers
- title tags, you need them to have most keywords for that page
- A page for each 2-3 keyphrases (I take it they are your "Most Popular Today")
I- ncrease the number of <h1><h2><h3> tags with sentences about your keyword for that phrase. Right now you only have 1 <h1> and nothing else, that's just not going to cut it.
Don't worry about your header for now, get your pages up and indexed. You will have a fire under your ass to do that once visitors start showing up. For now #1 priority is getting pages up and indexed.
- more real content for each page

@ hazzen ... adsense type ads on landing pages doesn't usually work that well unless you are going for straight arbitrage, those type sites usually are parked pages. The point is, I'm really not sure about mixing this type site with adwords unless your CPC is very, very low.

I might suggest 2 sections of the site if this is your plan. One section for organic traffic complete with aff offers, adsense & content. You should be pointing your incoming links to these pages. Have a different section of the site that you optimize for PPC traffic if you want to go that route, make this look more like a landing page.

BTW: what was your answer to this question? "Find out if competing networks allow ads on the same domain as others.". I've never thought about this and am realizing I have some pages that send competing offers to the same landing domain. Please post answer here.
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I'm having trouble finding a good layout for a pink apple macbook themed site. The header image I've made looks great but something that looks professional and is in the same colors (pink/black) ?!?

One question - I love those CSS templates that erect provided. I'm using Wordpress because I'm under the impression that Google loves Wordpress and the pages get indexed really quickly. Would you recommend Wordpress over a generic CSS template, and also - is it possible to convert CSS template to being Wordpress compatible?
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After I get done with fantasypinupart.com I feel like I can get anything done.

I started editing my wordpress theme for fantasypinupart.com
Loading it with plugins and and testing. (and no the final version isn't up yet). Getting the look and feel that I wanted along with content took at lot longer than I expected. My PHP skills were really rusty. And I completely underestimated the time commitment to get it working well. But I finally started making traction.
I've signed up for all of my affiliates.
Got content. (images and text)
started creating posts based on keywords that I'll be uploading on a schedule.

So expect to see the version 1 up Monday night and ready for some feedback.

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One of the few domains in that list that isn't going to expire in the next 60 - 90 days is SantaRadar.net
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Here's a tip that a few noobs might find useful.

I posted my link on this thread on 5-22 ... it's now 4AM on 5-26 and I've got 5 pages in the google index. The point of this is that it's not hard to get spiders/search engines to notice your site.

Digging a little deeper ... I still have not done any keyword research but I looked around a little bit with the words in my domain name "content links". Obviously at this point I'm not in the top 100 but looking at the big boys on top of this search phrase it seems it will be quite competitive.

kontera.com ranks #1 with 25k incoming links
Position 2-6 has between 4,200 - 500,000+ incoming links. One of those is to joomla.org (ouch).

Looks like this phrase might be difficult to crack the top 10 but it intrigues me. If there is that much competition it means there are probably a good number of incoming searches, perhaps the world will love my little script. No tools show much traffic for the phrase.

Checking the google adwords tool, I see that bids are only going for 5c per click. Nobody is showing up in the sponsored results section in a search. Perhaps it's just best I buy the traffic. I'm thinking about charging $60 for the script so if I go 1/1200 I break even.

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I'm having trouble finding a good layout for a pink apple macbook themed site. The header image I've made looks great but something that looks professional and is in the same colors (pink/black) ?!?
Post the header, it's necessary to match up the theme.

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One question - I love those CSS templates that erect provided. I'm using Wordpress because I'm under the impression that Google loves Wordpress and the pages get indexed really quickly. Would you recommend Wordpress over a generic CSS template, and also - is it possible to convert CSS template to being Wordpress compatible?
Getting pages indexed with a small site is easy .. see 1st paragraph.

Google loves content, regardless of what foundation you use (wordpress, joomla, xhtml, ...). No platform is better than the other. As long as the pages are relatively lightweight, whatever works best for you is the right one.

Converting css-> wordpress is totally possible, here's a bam bam thread where he's doing just that. If you don't want to do it yourself, his service seems cheap enough @ $45. If money is tight just pick an existing theme from wordpress or learn to hack.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:13 AM   #96 (permalink)
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finding a good layout is a bitch and time consuming. maybe this will help.
it's a pink and black wp theme that's widget ready.

Freedom - Pink & Widgetized | Theme Viewer

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I'm having trouble finding a good layout for a pink apple macbook themed site. The header image I've made looks great but something that looks professional and is in the same colors (pink/black) ?!?

One question - I love those CSS templates that erect provided. I'm using Wordpress because I'm under the impression that Google loves Wordpress and the pages get indexed really quickly. Would you recommend Wordpress over a generic CSS template, and also - is it possible to convert CSS template to being Wordpress compatible?
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:33 AM   #97 (permalink)
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I'll give santaradar.net a go if that's still available ?
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I'm having trouble finding a good layout for a pink apple macbook themed site. The header image I've made looks great but something that looks professional and is in the same colors (pink/black) ?!?

One question - I love those CSS templates that erect provided. I'm using Wordpress because I'm under the impression that Google loves Wordpress and the pages get indexed really quickly. Would you recommend Wordpress over a generic CSS template, and also - is it possible to convert CSS template to being Wordpress compatible?
Hi there.

here are a few themes that should do well with the "pink macbook" offer.
You'll have to change the header image, but that should be no problem.

I used the very first on that page for a "pink iphone" site.
Free Themes

This would need some css adapring, probably:
Pinky Theme

Also nice and only header needs to change:
Release of the Wordpress Banksy theme

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