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emp · 05-21-2008, 09:16 AM

@CCLIND normally, you get the access data (URL, username, password) and then you go and log into cpanel.

::emp::

fm1234 · 05-21-2008, 01:05 PM

In keeping with mattgatten's addition to the offer, I'll throw in help with WP for anyone who needs it. I have been working with WP for a while now, and have built out several different memes of it (WP is way way way more than just a stupid online diary application, in case that hasn't crossed your minds yet.) If anyone in this batch wants to PM me I can help you with:

1) Finding the WP layout that is best for your niche and presentation (ie. how to make a video site out of WP, how to make a social networking site, how to make a magazine, etc.)

2) Comparing different plugins that do similar things, getting them installed and configured for your needs.

3) Basic theme/template editing. I do not do graphics and I do not do aesthetic design, but as far as CSS, layouts and the basic colour scheme go I can help you get it looking like you want.

4) Finding, setting up and managing feeds.

5) "SEO infrastructure" for WP (getting title tags write, permalink management, sitemap setup etc.

This is free help, so it will be largely around my own schedule, but I'll try to get our timetables lined up well enough so that you aren't standing around waiting for me to help (come to think of it, if "standing around waiting for help" is your thing you should probably quit now and go work at Hardee's.)

This is only for the newbies in this case study, and only for the sites indexed to the domains and hosting that Mike has so generously put up. Please don't go asking me to build out other stuff for you, unless you bring money.

Frank

mattgatten · 05-21-2008, 02:22 PM

Looks like the domain is resolving now. Here is some info for you guys.

I didn't see it posted here anywhere. To get to your control panel cPanel, use

Code:

http://yourdomain.com:2082

Then it's just username and password.

I'm a cPanel vet. If you need help with something in there, let me know.

Another thing too. Google sees these two addresses as different sites:

I put in the spaces and 'dots' to let you see it better.

Code:

 
http: // yourdomain dot com
 
and 
 
http: // www dot yourdomain dot com

You want to use one or the other. Most suggest the 2nd one. The fully qualified domain name.

To get around folks using both address styles in links and such you can modify your .htaccess file inside the www or public_html folder.

Place this code in there and change 'yourdomain' to the actual domain name.

Code:

"again, remove the spaces in the domain parts, put the urls in there 
and save it in your .htaccess file".
 
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^(.*)\.yourdomain\.com$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http: // www dot yourdomain dot com /$1 [R=301,L]

Do that before you put your first link out there. That way everything gets written to the full URL. Try it out and see for yourself.

Or go to my new domain by typing

Code:

http: // hondaaccordcar dot com
 
without the spaces!

mattgatten · 05-21-2008, 02:39 PM

My progress so far with this domain.

1. I've used the Google Keywords Tool, Keyword Tracker (free version) freekeywords.wordtracker.com to identify the keywords I want to use. I'm settling for the best 4-6 keywords I can come up with. I plan to concentrate on no more than 4 keywords for each page.

2. I've looked at the competition using google search tricks like:
allintitle: www dot domainname dot com
allinanchor: www dot domainname dot com
link: www dot domainname dot com
site: www dot domainname dot com
linkdomain: www dot domainname dot com (good one. Tells you the domains that link to the targeted domain).

3. Determined how I'll lay out my content structure. For mine, I'm planning on content pages for each year of the Honda accord. Wordtracker indicated that lots of searches are going on for the individual years. ie. 1999 Accord or 1999 Honda Accord. I want focused pages for each with 3 or 4 pieces of content on each. (The title tags, header info, and year model specific content will be dynamically inserted into each page allowing me to use a template for each). Will probably be the introductory article for each year.

4. Started locating content from around the various resources (article directories, wikipedia, etc) and rewriting things to be original on my site. In addition, I'm 'finding' images that I'll massage with Photoshop. (This is the time consuming part until I get my scraper finished).

5. In parallel, I'm installing wordpress and an 'adsense/YPN friendly' theme and I have to call Samantha at NeverblueAds this evening to finishing setting me up on their network.

Feedback appreciated: If I'm doing something out of order or wrong let me know. Teach me to fish, don't give me a fish.

I'll keep folks posted on my progress.

mattgatten · 05-21-2008, 05:22 PM

Not so much for the 'mentors' in this thread but to keep everyone motivated, here is the latest version of my site. I created a graphic for the top of the page. Nothing super fancy. Have a look. Honda Accords | Honda Accords - Resources, History, Parts, and Accessories

Are we having fun yet?

Thanks,

mediastar100 · 05-21-2008, 05:46 PM

Hey Matt

Looking good so far. I'll be posting my progress with GlitterGrafix soon. In the middle of some lovely lovely kw reasearch - venturing into the world of zwinkys and mobile submits by the looks of things!

Dave

AtomBoy · 05-21-2008, 08:02 PM

My Progress so far for FANTASYPINUPART.COM
Where I'm getting hung up is on time. Gonna have to do this after the kid goes down (ok...nuff whining)

day 1

I did market research and keyword research last night. Found some other niches along the way.
I signed up for my EPN account. EBay had some good high ticket items.
Got my buddy to start a header graphic for the site (should be done by Sunday). I want it to look good as well as make a buck
Downloaded WP
Got rss feeds into my rss reader from blogs, news, etc for content for the site.

day 2 (tomorrow night 5/23, I got a date with the wife tonight

)

upload wp
get an ebay pluging for WP and install. If anyone knows of a decent one to use with EPN, please let me know.
sign up with neverblueads , Copeac
Look for other affiliate possibilities
start putting up content

~Atom

blueRAP · 05-22-2008, 12:45 AM

I'd like to get in on the fun. I'll take PROSEOTOOLS.NET please.

Thanks!

emp · 05-22-2008, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattgatten

Are we having fun yet?

Nope, site does not load.

::emp::

mattgatten · 05-22-2008, 08:56 AM

It does for me.

SEO_Mike · 05-22-2008, 10:23 AM

@mattgatten - Great start! Checked out the site and it looks good! Just keep going

@atomboy - Can't wait to see what you come up with. I actually bought that domain because I love pin up stuff. Betty Page, Olivia, etc. BTW, in case you haven't, sign up for the affiliate program at Allposters.com They have a lot of pin up art posters for sale.

@mediastar - check with your affiliate manager and ask them what does well with your site (if you haven't already)

Sounds like you have more planned / done than you're letting on, so I won't bother you too much.

narsticle · 05-22-2008, 10:37 AM

@matt - how are you planning to monetize this?

mattgatten · 05-22-2008, 10:55 AM

I wanted to get lots of content with my keywords in there first. Looking at google searches, I found that "honda accord" was really competitive (in the millions). I noticed that "honda accords" (plural) was down around 100k. I decided those were the two main keywords I would target. Now year model - honda accord gets a decent amount of searches so I though I would make categories for each year model and try and rake traffic from those 'tertiary' search phrases. (Am I thinking correctly here?)

Money: Well, I was thinking about numerous avenues. I hear zip submits are something you want to hold off on if you're a noobie. I was thinking about the car insurance quote leads, car loans, etc. Maybe some YPN. I don't know for sure. I wanted to get content up first then go into the monetization.

I just got off the phone with Samantha (hottie) over at NB last night and I'm pretty excited. I've always tried CJ.com but NB has some really neat looking stuff.

I'm very open to suggestions on what avenue (high level category) of monetization to take. Like I said. Teach me to fish, don't give me a fish. So, let me hear ya.

Summary - Day 3
Profit - Exactly Dick!
Traffic - Exactly Dick!
Links - Exactly Dick!
Content - 3 posts!
Plans - Keep adding content, find a few aff offers, links between posts (internal).

narsticle · 05-22-2008, 11:16 AM

matt...

you're on the right track.

NB is great. I think you might be too early in trying to run something from that network though. My suggestion to you is to build up the traffic and try to monetize it with something like PHPBayPro using the ebay affiliate program. There are tons of great items related to Hondas you can promote.

Good work so far. Keep it up.

mattgatten · 05-22-2008, 12:15 PM

Ok, I'm curious then. I didn't read anything around the site that said, 'Noobs should stay away from the 'heavy hitter' Aff Networks'. Why is NB or Copeac out of a noobs league? Just curious.

So should I fill it with EBay Auctions and YPN ads? I guess my question is, how is it 'harder' with the NB offers (ouside of email/zip submits?).

Thanks again, You guys have given me a ton of info already.

split · 05-22-2008, 12:39 PM

im interested in doing this too. i've been reading up on it for a while now and i figured better now than never.

so far i have:
- bought the domain RedHotDealDays.com (verizon sales promotions)
- got approved with neverblueads

the biggest problem right now is that i need hosting. I know you are letting people use your domains, but i was wondering if you could host mine. I'm here to learn and will absorb all information thrown at me.

I look forward to working with all of you and getting my first campaign started

mattgatten · 05-22-2008, 01:13 PM

- Google analytics installed and tracking
- Categories are going in. Most posts will fall under 2 categories minimum.
- Content scraped from tons of places, re-wording and re-typing as you read this.
- Making sure each post gets a link or two to another post as I add them.
- Back-dating the time stamps on the posts as I ad them to give the impression of a more 'mature' site.

Future: As I get closer to 50-60 articles, I'm going to hire the directory submission Ninjas to help me out. I'm thinking 500-1000. Thoughts from the 'teachers': How soon do you hire the directory submission Ninjas? How many directory submissions do you buy?

erect · 05-22-2008, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattgatten

Ok, I'm curious then. I didn't read anything around the site that said, 'Noobs should stay away from the 'heavy hitter' Aff Networks'. Why is NB or Copeac out of a noobs league? Just curious.

So should I fill it with EBay Auctions and YPN ads? I guess my question is, how is it 'harder' with the NB offers (ouside of email/zip submits?).

I personally feel that Copeac, etc is pretty much the same damn thing as ebay partner network (epn). At it's basic level, they are all ads that bring in revenue. For your site, I personally like the option of giving car related ads from aff networks better. Ads can target insurance, loans, etc pretty easily from a decent network. Do that and drop some adsense (less is more) in place and your monetization is up to par.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattgatten

Future: As I get closer to 50-60 articles, I'm going to hire the directory submission Ninjas to help me out. I'm thinking 500-1000. Thoughts from the 'teachers': How soon do you hire the directory submission Ninjas? How many directory submissions do you buy?

IMHO, directories are a good addition to a mature link building campaign, not a replacement for one. For this test you have a month to make money ... most free directories (which is what they will submit to) won't even review your site in that amount of time.

My best suggestion for links would be to A> comment on some digg, sphinn or reddit stories that are blogs that allow links on your name. Spiders frequent these places and will know your site exists almost immediately. B> pick up a sig link somewhere (like dp or hopefully a car forum) for $10 / ~500 posts.

Doing the above 2 things will get your site noticed and help bring in a few visitors so you can start looking at your log files and optimizing the site. Thats when you will really know how best to get more traffic and monetize the traffic you have.

erect · 05-22-2008, 01:40 PM

Ok, now my turn. I picked up the site Content Links from Mike.

I'd like to give an example to rookies that there are more ways to make money online than just content driven MFA sites. Some noobs have experience in different things that they can market ... mine happens to be programming.

About my site - Content links provides a program that allows developers the ability to add links from their sites (html / blog / forum) to other sites. The key here is that the anchor text spans a couple of words rather than just a 1 word link. This is great for flying under Google's radar when linkbuilding as the anchor text is almost always unique. The script pulls XML from a single source so you can install this program on many sites and they all pull from the same words to drop links. Using the script is simple <? include 'script.php' ; echo content_links($content) ; ?>. Also, I see a wordpress plugin in the near future.

How to monetize - Well that's the easy part ... sell a script, make the dollars. Getting the site out there will be the only challenge but there are plenty of software directories (hotscripts, etc) and webmaster forums that will have users in my target audience.

About the search engines - Natural traffic will probably be down the road a bit for this site as I really haven't done any keyword research. I figure there will be enough webmasters in arms distance to make this launch a success, organic will come later. Once I come up with my price point some PPC action might be happening also.

I'd like to see a couple of people put up some different type sites here in this thread (newsletters, e-commerce, subscription) so that the noobs can start thinking outside the box of MFA sites. That's where most start and why most fail ... the money is not there for single sites and requires replication.

05-21-2008, 09:16 AM	#51 (permalink)
emp Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,487 iTrader: (6)	@CCLIND normally, you get the access data (URL, username, password) and then you go and log into cpanel. ::emp:: __________________ My blog -Blind Ape Seo ¦ My WickedFire articles TopContentData.com Get Free and Premium Content Databases for your Empire!

05-21-2008, 02:22 PM	#53 (permalink)
mattgatten Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 150 iTrader: (0)	Looks like the domain is resolving now. Here is some info for you guys. I didn't see it posted here anywhere. To get to your control panel cPanel, use Code: http://yourdomain.com:2082 Then it's just username and password. I'm a cPanel vet. If you need help with something in there, let me know. Another thing too. Google sees these two addresses as different sites: I put in the spaces and 'dots' to let you see it better. Code: http: // yourdomain dot com and http: // www dot yourdomain dot com You want to use one or the other. Most suggest the 2nd one. The fully qualified domain name. To get around folks using both address styles in links and such you can modify your .htaccess file inside the www or public_html folder. Place this code in there and change 'yourdomain' to the actual domain name. Code: "again, remove the spaces in the domain parts, put the urls in there and save it in your .htaccess file". RewriteEngine On RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^(.)\.yourdomain\.com$ [NC] RewriteRule ^(.)$ http: // www dot yourdomain dot com /$1 [R=301,L] Do that before you put your first link out there. That way everything gets written to the full URL. Try it out and see for yourself. Or go to my new domain by typing Code: http: // hondaaccordcar dot com without the spaces! __________________ My Noobie Training Site : Everything About Honda Accords

05-21-2008, 02:39 PM	#54 (permalink)
mattgatten Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 150 iTrader: (0)	My progress so far with this domain. 1. I've used the Google Keywords Tool, Keyword Tracker (free version) freekeywords.wordtracker.com to identify the keywords I want to use. I'm settling for the best 4-6 keywords I can come up with. I plan to concentrate on no more than 4 keywords for each page. 2. I've looked at the competition using google search tricks like: allintitle: www dot domainname dot com allinanchor: www dot domainname dot com link: www dot domainname dot com site: www dot domainname dot com linkdomain: www dot domainname dot com (good one. Tells you the domains that link to the targeted domain). 3. Determined how I'll lay out my content structure. For mine, I'm planning on content pages for each year of the Honda accord. Wordtracker indicated that lots of searches are going on for the individual years. ie. 1999 Accord or 1999 Honda Accord. I want focused pages for each with 3 or 4 pieces of content on each. (The title tags, header info, and year model specific content will be dynamically inserted into each page allowing me to use a template for each). Will probably be the introductory article for each year. 4. Started locating content from around the various resources (article directories, wikipedia, etc) and rewriting things to be original on my site. In addition, I'm 'finding' images that I'll massage with Photoshop. (This is the time consuming part until I get my scraper finished). 5. In parallel, I'm installing wordpress and an 'adsense/YPN friendly' theme and I have to call Samantha at NeverblueAds this evening to finishing setting me up on their network. Feedback appreciated: If I'm doing something out of order or wrong let me know. Teach me to fish, don't give me a fish. I'll keep folks posted on my progress. __________________ My Noobie Training Site : Everything About Honda Accords

05-21-2008, 05:22 PM	#55 (permalink)
mattgatten Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 150 iTrader: (0)	Not so much for the 'mentors' in this thread but to keep everyone motivated, here is the latest version of my site. I created a graphic for the top of the page. Nothing super fancy. Have a look. Honda Accords \| Honda Accords - Resources, History, Parts, and Accessories Are we having fun yet? Thanks, __________________ My Noobie Training Site : Everything About Honda Accords

05-21-2008, 08:02 PM	#57 (permalink)
AtomBoy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 iTrader: (0)	My Case Study: FANTASYPINUPART.COM My Progress so far for FANTASYPINUPART.COM Where I'm getting hung up is on time. Gonna have to do this after the kid goes down (ok...nuff whining) day 1 I did market research and keyword research last night. Found some other niches along the way. I signed up for my EPN account. EBay had some good high ticket items. Got my buddy to start a header graphic for the site (should be done by Sunday). I want it to look good as well as make a buck Downloaded WP Got rss feeds into my rss reader from blogs, news, etc for content for the site. day 2 (tomorrow night 5/23, I got a date with the wife tonight ) upload wp get an ebay pluging for WP and install. If anyone knows of a decent one to use with EPN, please let me know. sign up with neverblueads , Copeac Look for other affiliate possibilities start putting up content ~Atom

05-21-2008, 01:05 PM	#52 (permalink)
fm1234 My Other Ride is Your Mom Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 574 iTrader: (6)	In keeping with mattgatten's addition to the offer, I'll throw in help with WP for anyone who needs it. I have been working with WP for a while now, and have built out several different memes of it (WP is way way way more than just a stupid online diary application, in case that hasn't crossed your minds yet.) If anyone in this batch wants to PM me I can help you with: 1) Finding the WP layout that is best for your niche and presentation (ie. how to make a video site out of WP, how to make a social networking site, how to make a magazine, etc.) 2) Comparing different plugins that do similar things, getting them installed and configured for your needs. 3) Basic theme/template editing. I do not do graphics and I do not do aesthetic design, but as far as CSS, layouts and the basic colour scheme go I can help you get it looking like you want. 4) Finding, setting up and managing feeds. 5) "SEO infrastructure" for WP (getting title tags write, permalink management, sitemap setup etc. This is free help, so it will be largely around my own schedule, but I'll try to get our timetables lined up well enough so that you aren't standing around waiting for me to help (come to think of it, if "standing around waiting for help" is your thing you should probably quit now and go work at Hardee's.) This is only for the newbies in this case study, and only for the sites indexed to the domains and hosting that Mike has so generously put up. Please don't go asking me to build out other stuff for you, unless you bring money. Frank

05-21-2008, 05:46 PM	#56 (permalink)
mediastar100 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 457 iTrader: (4)	Hey Matt Looking good so far. I'll be posting my progress with GlitterGrafix soon. In the middle of some lovely lovely kw reasearch - venturing into the world of zwinkys and mobile submits by the looks of things! Dave

05-22-2008, 12:45 AM	#58 (permalink)
blueRAP Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 65 iTrader: (0)	I'd like to get in on the fun. I'll take PROSEOTOOLS.NET please. Thanks!

05-22-2008, 08:56 AM	#60 (permalink)
mattgatten Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 150 iTrader: (0)	It does for me. __________________ My Noobie Training Site : Everything About Honda Accords

05-22-2008, 10:23 AM	#61 (permalink)
SEO_Mike Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,421 iTrader: (26)	@mattgatten - Great start! Checked out the site and it looks good! Just keep going @atomboy - Can't wait to see what you come up with. I actually bought that domain because I love pin up stuff. Betty Page, Olivia, etc. BTW, in case you haven't, sign up for the affiliate program at Allposters.com They have a lot of pin up art posters for sale. @mediastar - check with your affiliate manager and ask them what does well with your site (if you haven't already) Sounds like you have more planned / done than you're letting on, so I won't bother you too much. __________________ $1000 days are uncommon with Ads4Dough. Usually, they are much higher. Copeac Mutha Fucka's. That will be all. Auggie's the shiz-nit for Design Work! "How are you going to get things done if you spend so much time planning to get things done?" - chatmasta

05-22-2008, 10:37 AM	#62 (permalink)
narsticle Ad Hustler Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NY Posts: 1,452 iTrader: (2)	@matt - how are you planning to monetize this? __________________ Ad Hustler Approved Networks: NeverBlueAds \| Hydra Network Ad Hustler Approved Services: PPC-Coach Ad Hustler Speaks \| The Ultimate Google Content Network Post

05-22-2008, 10:55 AM	#63 (permalink)
mattgatten Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 150 iTrader: (0)	I wanted to get lots of content with my keywords in there first. Looking at google searches, I found that "honda accord" was really competitive (in the millions). I noticed that "honda accords" (plural) was down around 100k. I decided those were the two main keywords I would target. Now year model - honda accord gets a decent amount of searches so I though I would make categories for each year model and try and rake traffic from those 'tertiary' search phrases. (Am I thinking correctly here?) Money: Well, I was thinking about numerous avenues. I hear zip submits are something you want to hold off on if you're a noobie. I was thinking about the car insurance quote leads, car loans, etc. Maybe some YPN. I don't know for sure. I wanted to get content up first then go into the monetization. I just got off the phone with Samantha (hottie) over at NB last night and I'm pretty excited. I've always tried CJ.com but NB has some really neat looking stuff. I'm very open to suggestions on what avenue (high level category) of monetization to take. Like I said. Teach me to fish, don't give me a fish. So, let me hear ya. Summary - Day 3 Profit - Exactly Dick! Traffic - Exactly Dick! Links - Exactly Dick! Content - 3 posts! Plans - Keep adding content, find a few aff offers, links between posts (internal). __________________ My Noobie Training Site : Everything About Honda Accords

05-22-2008, 11:16 AM	#64 (permalink)
narsticle Ad Hustler Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NY Posts: 1,452 iTrader: (2)	matt... you're on the right track. NB is great. I think you might be too early in trying to run something from that network though. My suggestion to you is to build up the traffic and try to monetize it with something like PHPBayPro using the ebay affiliate program. There are tons of great items related to Hondas you can promote. Good work so far. Keep it up. __________________ Ad Hustler Approved Networks: NeverBlueAds \| Hydra Network Ad Hustler Approved Services: PPC-Coach Ad Hustler Speaks \| The Ultimate Google Content Network Post

05-22-2008, 12:15 PM	#65 (permalink)
mattgatten Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 150 iTrader: (0)	Ok, I'm curious then. I didn't read anything around the site that said, 'Noobs should stay away from the 'heavy hitter' Aff Networks'. Why is NB or Copeac out of a noobs league? Just curious. So should I fill it with EBay Auctions and YPN ads? I guess my question is, how is it 'harder' with the NB offers (ouside of email/zip submits?). Thanks again, You guys have given me a ton of info already. __________________ My Noobie Training Site : Everything About Honda Accords

05-22-2008, 12:39 PM	#66 (permalink)
split Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2 iTrader: (0)	im interested in doing this too. i've been reading up on it for a while now and i figured better now than never. so far i have: - bought the domain RedHotDealDays.com (verizon sales promotions) - got approved with neverblueads the biggest problem right now is that i need hosting. I know you are letting people use your domains, but i was wondering if you could host mine. I'm here to learn and will absorb all information thrown at me. I look forward to working with all of you and getting my first campaign started

05-22-2008, 01:13 PM	#67 (permalink)
mattgatten Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 150 iTrader: (0)	- Google analytics installed and tracking - Categories are going in. Most posts will fall under 2 categories minimum. - Content scraped from tons of places, re-wording and re-typing as you read this. - Making sure each post gets a link or two to another post as I add them. - Back-dating the time stamps on the posts as I ad them to give the impression of a more 'mature' site. Future: As I get closer to 50-60 articles, I'm going to hire the directory submission Ninjas to help me out. I'm thinking 500-1000. Thoughts from the 'teachers': How soon do you hire the directory submission Ninjas? How many directory submissions do you buy? __________________ My Noobie Training Site : Everything About Honda Accords

05-22-2008, 01:57 PM	#70 (permalink)
erect Bottom Feeder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lil' rock Posts: 468 iTrader: (