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Old 06-20-2008, 06:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Mustread No More Excuses - Part 2 - Coming Soon

Look for it around July 1st.

Currently I need help with hosting and domains. If anyone has extra room on their VPS or dedicated box, PM me. Also, if you have domains you want to donate to this project, PM me.

If you are donating domains, you need to be okay with giving them up for $10, no more, no less. If the domain has less than 6 months remaining on it and your n00b wants to buy it, you have to renew the domain for them before pushing it.

For those of you looking to help out with hosting, you need to be able to set up individual accounts, not "add on" domains in your shared account. Hosting accounts can be as small as 1 gig of memory and 2 gig of transfer. Or you can provide them with as much memory and transfer as you want.

n00bs that are blessed with a domain and hosting through the kindness of other members should thank their "sponsors" by at least signing up for affiliate programs through their sponsors links. It's not much, but it's something. Also, you must post your progress at least once per week in this thread, AND have something visible within 3 days of getting your domain / hosting, or else you lose your domain / hosting and any involvement in this project.

n00bs wanting to participate, just keep and eye on this thread. You'll know when we're ready for you.

I'll try to be more active this time, but I can't promise anything. So, if any vets want to help out, that would be great!
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Got a couple people to donate some server space, so we'll have three servers available for Round 2. Still looking for domain donations.
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Alrighty, we're almost ready. Some of the domains from "No Excuses Part 1" will be reused. Others expire shortly and I don't want to mess with renewing them. So, what I'm willing to do (since nobody wants to donate any domains) is buy 20 .info's for you guys.

Since I'm buying them, I'll own them, but you'll get to use them. If you decide to purchase your domain at the end of "No Excuses 2" you will have that option.

I'll post the domain list shortly (next 24 hours or so).

BTW, the thread is now open, so you can start asking questions if you like.
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No questions here. Just wanted to say thanks for putting another thing like this together. I'll take the opportunity to get my fucking ass in gear!
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I have an idea that I've been kicking around for some time. I'll use this thread as a bit of motivation to actually get it done. Ordering VPS right now.
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Well... im going to use this thread to get my ass started on hosted sites and try to get some decent sites up. I did some stuff with blogger so im not completely noob. But im clueless when it comes to hosted sites and wordpress.

So far i got my self hosting with bluehost and a new domain. I installed wordpress but it doesn't show up at the regular url.

as in www* .url .com but it does show up at www . url . com /admin /wordpress/

so im trying to get that fixed some how and then i guess ill have to find tons of plugins and what not.

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Ok - I participated in the first thread and learnt a hell of a lot so its time to give something back. Once this gets started I will donate my time to do one custom landing page for one of the participants.

Also Mike - I am willing to donate discussingdylan.net if you would like to take it and use it for the project?

God Im feeling generous today


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Ok - I participated in the first thread and learnt a hell of a lot so its time to give something back. Once this gets started I will donate my time to do one custom landing page for one of the participants.

Also Mike - I am willing to donate discussingdylan.net if you would like to take it and use it for the project?

God Im feeling generous today


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Well sense your feeling so generous I wouldn't mind some help in the landing page department
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I'd like to participate this time if there's room. Sounds like fun.
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Great! Sounds like this project may take off like crazy! Looking forward to the launch. I'll start a new thread once we go live, so don't worry about cluttering this one up with OT stuff. It'll disappear in a few days.
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Rock and Roll Mike ... looking forward to helping out however I can.
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I'm in too if that's cool. Been looking forward to this one for a while.

Pity you didn't get many domains donated. I'd give you one but most of mine contain the word 'porn' or 'midget'. The .info is a good idea though. Then if we start to get anywhere we can buy a .net or .com as well.
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I have DS i can donate sitting on unlimited bandwidth.. Not using it much, just now started developing my domains after PPC going to shits...

I also got plenty of domains I can donate, let me know what kind of domains you're looking for..

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I'm also going to get onboard this. I've started designing my wordpress site as we speak. Will be interesting to watch everyones progress...so I can pick up some tips

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Yup I´m also in for this round .
Going to see if i can actually make a buck or to with the help of pros.

Thumbs up for everyone joining in on the fun.

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Once the thread opens proper, with allocation of domain names first person to drop me a note on the thread gets the goods! wanna make it fair for everyone once the thread starts up

Of course if you are the first tweak then my time is your time


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Awesome work Mike, ill be participating in this round aswell. Although im not completely new to this, I will take this oppurtunity to get my ass in gear and do some work. Looking forward to getting started with this.
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Again, this is awesome of you Mike (and others who are helping)..

It would also be nice to see some veterans chime in and give some tips and guidance
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I will put up hosting out of the accounts I already allocated for WF here/ 1080MB, 32GB bandwidth.

Am digging around my domains to see if any can be sacrificed to the cause that actually aren't shit that would only insult the recipient.

Will also offer WordPress and CSS tutoring via PM as I did in the previous NMX thread.


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i like this whole concept .ive been doing the affiliate marketing thing for about 6 months altogether i think i made -75 ....lol .not counting the money i spent on forums . so this is perfect for me .i have 3 domains i can give two of them up .if need be .
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i got my VPS all setup and ready to roar for these guys.

If you need anything installed lemme know
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- I can help with anything wordpress. Will be available on IM for 2 hours everyday (except weekends), (Will let Mike know the timings, so that he can post in the new thread) for any query on anything on Wordpress or WPMU, this will include basic installation, security requirements, theme installation/editing, css compliance, plugin management and other such stuff.

- Also can donate server space. Got a VPS lying around. Let me know the requirements Mike.

- Will try and regularly post guides and wordpress tips for you people.

- Sorry about the domains, was away from the internet for a few months owing to an accident and have most of them expired


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I'm down for part 2. This time I'm thinking about a phpbay pro site coupled with a blog. Still thinking about a few other strategies though.
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Cool! I want to try phpbay too. Looks like fun.
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Count me in. PHPBay looks like my go too.
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Mikey... when does this start
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wouldn't using phpbay defeat the purpose of this?

this contest was started by Mike for the people who say they cannot afford domains or domain hosting. since phpbay costs $50 to purchase, I'm sure that for that amount you could afford a domain and domain hosting
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I'm ready to rock.Got wordpress installed and most the plugins work. Only doubts i have is the niches. I think I'm just really dumb when it comes to picking niches lol. I pick the ones i personaly like but the target crowd(aka me) does not click ads or spontaniously buy anything.
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It won't really. The free domain+hosting thing is for noobs starting up. But this program actually helps procrastinating 9-5ers (who have a few dollars to spare) to just step up on their feet and get going.

And anyways we now have McJiffy - Open source alternative to BANS and Phpbay - so that shouldn't be much of a problem either.
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this contest was started by Mike for the people who say they cannot afford domains or domain hosting. since phpbay costs $50 to purchase, I'm sure that for that amount you could afford a domain and domain hosting
While I agree with you on the use of phpBay defeating the purpose of this, I never saw anything about it being only for people who couldn't afford shit, just people who couldn't figure shit out or needed a boost in the right direction (me on both accounts).

Regarding phpbay there's an excellent tutorial already out there and this site ain't bad either. I can't imagine there would be all that much more that a thread could offer here, especially since all phpbay users get access to the phpbay forums. But whatever floats your boat. With the wealth of knowledge in these forums and people willing to help, it would seem a waste to be looking at one phpbay site after another.

Regarding a post earlier about raising the floor instead of the ceiling, it would seem that n00bs doing phpBay sites might go from 80% awesome to 90% awesome w/ a phpBay project in the n00b challenge. Personally, I'd rather raise the floor on my understanding of PPC, targeted traffic, or any of the other myriad number of facets of Affiliate Marketing that escape me. Going from 10% understanding to 50-60% in those areas is going to pay a shit ton more than fully pimping out a phpBay store.

Just a little food for thought, but to each their own!
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For my site, phpBay will just be another stream of revenue. I'm going to try and get most of my monies from affiliate offers, then EPN, then maybe adsense. Sorry I didn't clarify. These phpBay stores are getting saturated pretty quickly, which is why I won't focus solely on it.
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I agree... and with the above linked tutorial - many are looking the same too. With a slew of EPN stores it will end up becoming a crap shoot whether you get credit for the sale or not as online shoppers jump from one epn store to the next and cookies getting overwritten continuously. At least that's one scenario.
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Just to clear the air, I have nothing again phpbay, I find it a great piece of software (hell, I use it myself). I just thought from the original scope the challenge was for mostly people who didn't have the money to start out.. but it seems it has expanded from that..

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I have been doing some things with ebay in the case study thread, using a free alternative to phpbay and BANS. I am not making any claims to have invented it (it uses feedwordpress), but I've been making my own tweaks to it for over 6 months, and know how to use it. Since I am phasing out that method for my own stuff (I don't like EPN), I'd be willing to give out some pointers for those wanting to try it.

I'm not going to just pass stuff out, though. As it was previously mentioned, if everyone slaps up the same thing, it's not going to work. Like phpbay stores, ebay autoblogs are a dime a dozen; so, if you are thinking about trying it, you're going to have to make some mods of your own to make it unique.
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May I get in on this?
I already have my site started, but I would like to participate to get some feedback, and see other points of view!
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I'm down for part 2. This time I'm thinking about a phpbay pro site coupled with a blog. Still thinking about a few other strategies though.
I have a quick comment about this post from the first round of this program. The below is a post you made there. I would look for a new writer and am a little surprised no one else mentioned this.

I, myself wouldn't buy articles from this site based solely on the sample articles there. Don't take this personally, I think you did a great job on the project. If I were going to shell out cash for articles I'd expect top quality work with somewhat of a mastery of the english language.

Article #2
There are plenty of advantages to this, and up until now, some o the major players in the peer to peer networking industry have been Kazaa, as well as Shareaza and LimeWire... (seriously, spell check???)

Article #3
In the popular growing season of strawberries when they are most popular in the summer (just sounds dumb, the whole sentence sounds stupid and a mile long)

There are many people who love to grow strawberries for many reasons (sounds a little dumb, try various reasons)

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Alright, I think I'm pretty much ready to launch Editorialize - Daily updates for your blog. I hired an awesome writer, pretty much done with the content (couple more proof reads/edits) and the software is ready to go. Any comments before I start advertising?
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I'd love to participate in this challenge. Will be watching for round 2 to begin.
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Haha, those articles were provided by the guy I hired. I'm such a fucking idiot for not paying more attention when reviewing them. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Haha, those articles were provided by the guy I hired. I'm such a fucking idiot for not paying more attention when reviewing them. Thanks for pointing that out.
haha. I wouldn't have mentioned it except for the topic of the site.

Which gives me an idea. I should get my wife to write articles. She's a fantastic writer and types around 110 words a minute.
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I was going to mention, if you need current news for about any topic at all visit Topix: Your town. Your news. Your take.
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haha. I wouldn't have mentioned it except for the topic of the site.

Which gives me an idea. I should get my wife to write articles. She's a fantastic writer and types around 110 words a minute.

lol i got my GF writing most of my content.
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are you guys creating landing pages for PPC campaigns with this?
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as a quick update to the above, VPS secured, website installed, starting to add content. need to decide if industry database of contacts is worth the hefty price tag.
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as a quick update to the above, VPS secured, website installed, starting to add content. need to decide if industry database of contacts is worth the hefty price tag.
Have I missed something? Did we start already?
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lol i like to call it "preperations"
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I don't know what the "rules" are of this thing. Mike said fire away above with questions. I didn't know if that was about the challenge itself or about our specific projects. Heck, I think you have to be accepted into the n00b challenge as well - so who knows if I'm in or out or what - but I just thought I'd give an update since this post gave me the motivation to actually do something - and that something is build. I'm building a site, content, business plan, etc. And it's coming together fairly quickly. Amazing what a bit of concentration, determination, and limited interruptions can do for progress.

On the content generation side, let me reitterate what others have said - it's a lot easier to write about something that you are interested in - I've kicked out a few articles so far today and it's fairly decent stuff. Nice to get it out of my head and online. Now I can push it out and free up some room. I think that's a compounding problem of paralysis by analysis... your head gets too full and nothing else can enter, yet your not moving stuff through by acting to make room for new and better ideas. At least that was my experience!
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hehe! Ah thats cool. After waiting so long (well not that long) for this project I didn't want to give everyone a head start

After reading the above comments, I'm not going to do phpbay though. As others have rightly pointed out, there are at least 2 excellent tutorials on phpbay already.
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Anyhow, I'm getting things together today: domains, hosting, et al. And will get the thread going sometime this afternoon / early evening.

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