Rip my landing pages to shreds, please! - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

neonlights · 06-26-2008, 06:39 AM

OK guys. I expect no mercy here. And if you can't think of enough abusive things to say, find a friend who can!

LP 1: http://instant-online-loan.com

LP 2: Print Your Own Postage Stamps

Both these sites are built for PPC campaigns. Just waiting for a few things before I kick off. Hopefully I'm on the right track. Looking at them now, on a different machine, I just want to pull them appart and start again but really I think the best thing to just start the campaigns, let them fail, learn from my mistakes.

But please let me know if there is anything horribly wrong with them.

Enjoy

trigatch4 · 06-26-2008, 07:31 AM

Every lame ass e-book in the world called... they want their landing page back.

To be honest, I think they look god awful. Trying to bring Web .5 back. For some odd reason, I've also heard this god awful crap can convert really good. So... give it a whirl and see what happens.

Tweak it as you go and see what improves ROI and what hurts it.

neonlights · 06-26-2008, 07:42 AM

Yeah thats kinda what I expected. I know - pretty ugly. I just need to find some basic layouts that work so I can outsource the graphics who actually knows how to use photoshop for it's intended purpose.

Thanks for the feedback. Although I'm kinda dissapointed. Wanted something much more abusive!

stack paper · 06-26-2008, 08:06 AM

LMFAO @ web .5

neonlights · 06-26-2008, 08:15 AM

I have to admit the .5 thing was pretty good.

My only comeback is to say that I was inspired by other people's LPs!

stack paper · 06-26-2008, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights

I have to admit the .5 thing was pretty good.

My only comeback is to say that I was inspired by other people's LPs!

from 95?

neonlights · 06-26-2008, 08:29 AM

Sadly not. Some of the ones I've seen are truly worse than mine.

Thats not to say I'm happy with that though. Ugly can sell but I'm not interested in doing that.

trigatch4 · 06-26-2008, 09:10 AM

Find existing offers that look good
Press Print Screen
Paste in photoshop
Erase all the content and photoshop it to look like a blank slate with the design features in tact
Replace with your own content

RuDeDoGg · 06-26-2008, 09:18 AM

I have a feeling you don't know what "above the fold" means. Put anything of importance where the user can see it, right when the page loads (no scrolling). Everything won't fit, but use the space wisely. Take a look at your LP's on smaller resolutions. The stamps LP is basically rendered useless at 800 x 600, users will click back before they attempt to vertically scroll. The loan one is pretty good though.

neonlights · 06-26-2008, 09:21 AM

^ Surely that doesn't work in PPC though. I did that initially with my payday loans page but I got carried away.

Shouldn't I be trying to make the page look more unique? What about the QS implacations of print screening an advertiser? I guess if your content is decent it doesn't matter.

Thanks for the tip though. Maybe I'm overthinking this.

neonlights · 06-26-2008, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuDeDoGg

I have a feeling you don't know what "above the fold" means. Put anything of importance where the user can see it, right when the page loads (no scrolling). Take a look at your LP's on smaller resolutions. The stamps LP is basically rendered useless at 800 x 600, users will click back before they attempt to vertically scroll.

Yeah thats something I need to get used to. Years of working on massive monitors

Thanks

neonlights · 06-26-2008, 09:35 AM

It's a good advice generally though.

I'd love to see some good stats on that though. I've had designers tell me not to worry about keeping things small coz most surfers are on 1024+ these days. But I'm willing to bet that most BUYERS are not on 30" widescreens like them! Nothing beats "negotiating" with a designer who thinks they know better.

neonlights · 06-26-2008, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights

It's a good advice generally though.

I'd love to see some good stats on that though. I've had designers tell me not to worry about keeping things small coz most surfers are on 1024+ these days. But I'm willing to bet that most BUYERS are not on 30" widescreens like them! Nothing beats "negotiating" with a designer who thinks they know better.

Oh crap. I was replying to RuDeDoGg's post but it's gone now. Where did it go?

crazyfish · 06-26-2008, 04:52 PM

From my experience I have about 1% of my visitors who use anything smaller then 1024x768 but the postage site has no reason not to fit into 800x600.

Use this in firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1985

That dude on the left of your loans page looks like the gayest douchebag ever, I'd look for a better pic.

Your top link on postage site is blue on blue, that's shit.

mediastar100 · 06-26-2008, 05:18 PM

ouch - Mike Im feeling your pain!

neonlights · 06-26-2008, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyfish

From my experience I have about 1% of my visitors who use anything smaller then 1024x768 but the postage site has no reason not to fit into 800x600.

Use this in firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1985

That dude on the left of your loans page looks like the gayest douchebag ever, I'd look for a better pic.

Your top link on postage site is blue on blue, that's shit.

I know what you mean about the homo on the left. I really want a smart looking woman there. Is there a place I can get public domain images of stuff like that?

Thanks for the plugin

My thinking behind the stamps was to use the USPS colors. I'll see what else I can come up with. Do you think a color scheme suggestor is a good idea?

neonlights · 06-26-2008, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mediastar100

ouch - Mike Im feeling your pain!

The pain of learning doesn't bother me too much

neonlights · 06-26-2008, 10:35 PM

OK. Here are the updated versions:

Pay Day Loan Cash Advance

Print Your Own Postage Stamps
(I've left the originals intact for comparison)

I really pushed everything up the page this time. Hopefully they look a bit cleaner, a little less ebook, a little less Web 0.5.

Any more tips?

HarveyJ · 06-27-2008, 12:31 AM

Royalty free images? Free Royalty Free Photos, Pictures, Images and Stock Photography
They have thousands that they just rotate for free ever 24 hours or something. If you want specific images, then you have to pay. I usually just use them for sketching references.

The sites themselves still look dodgy to me.

I know that the one page squeeze gets people in,

06-26-2008, 06:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
neonlights Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 106	Rip my landing pages to shreds, please! OK guys. I expect no mercy here. And if you can't think of enough abusive things to say, find a friend who can! LP 1: http://instant-online-loan.com LP 2: Print Your Own Postage Stamps Both these sites are built for PPC campaigns. Just waiting for a few things before I kick off. Hopefully I'm on the right track. Looking at them now, on a different machine, I just want to pull them appart and start again but really I think the best thing to just start the campaigns, let them fail, learn from my mistakes. But please let me know if there is anything horribly wrong with them. Enjoy

06-26-2008, 07:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
trigatch4 $204/mo. -EurekaDiary.com Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast, USA Baby Posts: 1,987	Every lame ass e-book in the world called... they want their landing page back. To be honest, I think they look god awful. Trying to bring Web .5 back. For some odd reason, I've also heard this god awful crap can convert really good. So... give it a whirl and see what happens. Tweak it as you go and see what improves ROI and what hurts it. __________________ ChromeSpot.com - Google Chrome Forum Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule EurekaDiary.com - My Blog

06-26-2008, 09:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
trigatch4 $204/mo. -EurekaDiary.com Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast, USA Baby Posts: 1,987	Find existing offers that look good Press Print Screen Paste in photoshop Erase all the content and photoshop it to look like a blank slate with the design features in tact Replace with your own content __________________ ChromeSpot.com - Google Chrome Forum Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule EurekaDiary.com - My Blog

06-26-2008, 09:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
RuDeDoGg Austin Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 807	I have a feeling you don't know what "above the fold" means. Put anything of importance where the user can see it, right when the page loads (no scrolling). Everything won't fit, but use the space wisely. Take a look at your LP's on smaller resolutions. The stamps LP is basically rendered useless at 800 x 600, users will click back before they attempt to vertically scroll. The loan one is pretty good though. __________________

06-26-2008, 05:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
mediastar100 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 504	ouch - Mike Im feeling your pain! __________________ Custom Landing Pages - $50 flat rate, Banners - $15 flate rate, 24hr Turnaround Time - PM For Details. Check the thread http://www.wickedfire.com/sell-buy-t...ages-20-a.html

06-26-2008, 07:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
neonlights Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 106	Yeah thats kinda what I expected. I know - pretty ugly. I just need to find some basic layouts that work so I can outsource the graphics who actually knows how to use photoshop for it's intended purpose. Thanks for the feedback. Although I'm kinda dissapointed. Wanted something much more abusive!

06-26-2008, 08:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
neonlights Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 106	I have to admit the .5 thing was pretty good. My only comeback is to say that I was inspired by other people's LPs!

06-26-2008, 08:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
neonlights Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 106	Sadly not. Some of the ones I've seen are truly worse than mine. Thats not to say I'm happy with that though. Ugly can sell but I'm not interested in doing that.

06-26-2008, 09:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
neonlights Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 106	^ Surely that doesn't work in PPC though. I did that initially with my payday loans page but I got carried away. Shouldn't I be trying to make the page look more unique? What about the QS implacations of print screening an advertiser? I guess if your content is decent it doesn't matter. Thanks for the tip though. Maybe I'm overthinking this.

06-26-2008, 09:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
neonlights Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 106	It's a good advice generally though. I'd love to see some good stats on that though. I've had designers tell me not to worry about keeping things small coz most surfers are on 1024+ these days. But I'm willing to bet that most BUYERS are not on 30" widescreens like them! Nothing beats "negotiating" with a designer who thinks they know better.

06-26-2008, 04:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
crazyfish Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 222	From my experience I have about 1% of my visitors who use anything smaller then 1024x768 but the postage site has no reason not to fit into 800x600. Use this in firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1985 That dude on the left of your loans page looks like the gayest douchebag ever, I'd look for a better pic. Your top link on postage site is blue on blue, that's shit.

06-26-2008, 10:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
neonlights Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 106	OK. Here are the updated versions: Pay Day Loan Cash Advance Print Your Own Postage Stamps (I've left the originals intact for comparison) I really pushed everything up the page this time. Hopefully they look a bit cleaner, a little less ebook, a little less Web 0.5. Any more tips?

06-27-2008, 12:31 AM	#19 (permalink)
HarveyJ He is - THE CACTUS! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne - Not the one in Florida Posts: 2,021	Royalty free images? Free Royalty Free Photos, Pictures, Images and Stock Photography They have thousands that they just rotate for free ever 24 hours or something. If you want specific images, then you have to pay. I usually just use them for sketching references. The sites themselves still look dodgy to me. I know that the one page squeeze gets people in,