I must be doing something wrong..... - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

greenvy · 10-09-2006, 03:56 AM

This is my first time doing arbitrage....

I just put 2 of my arbit site online...and signed up for 7search to bring in some traffic.....got about 50 keywords (.05) for each arbit site but no one is clicking?? (the ads i made on 7search) so there no traffic coming to my site!

WTF am I doing wrong?? need more keywords?? get higher position with keywords?? shitty copywriting??

Oh yeah on more thing, do my 7search account has to be vaildated before I can start recieving traffic??....it does say If I can't contact them to validate my account, I could use up to $5.00 of my initial investment to advertise...so in that case, my account should be working right??

sebastya · 10-09-2006, 05:00 AM

is 7search good? I've never heard of them...

greenvy · 10-09-2006, 06:13 AM

thats what everyone else on here is using 7search and searchfeed for traffic.

Still looking for some advice

sebastya · 10-09-2006, 08:40 AM

I remember jon saying they're both pretty bad ?? (one of the lightning rounds)

chrislingle · 10-09-2006, 10:19 AM

you have to look at the kind of traffic your keyword gets in 7search, also what are the other bids? 7search sucks for aff but quite a few people do well with arbi there.

Xrproto · 10-09-2006, 11:26 AM

Add more keywords and if you are not satisfied with the volume of traffic seek other places for traffic.

It's a volume game. Just look at what variables you have to adjust to get your targeted outcome. If it's traffic you want think "What numbers can I change to get more?"

1) More keywords, several hundered at least
2) Use more than one PPC campaign per site. ie: 7search plus one or more other sources for traffic.
3) If that don't work seek other niches and test them.

greenvy · 10-09-2006, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xrproto

Add more keywords and if you are not satisfied with the volume of traffic seek other places for traffic.

It's a volume game. Just look at what variables you have to adjust to get your targeted outcome. If it's traffic you want think "What numbers can I change to get more?"

1) More keywords, several hundered at least
2) Use more than one PPC campaign per site. ie: 7search plus one or more other sources for traffic.
3) If that don't work seek other niches and test them.

What other 2nd tier SE do you recommend other than 7search and searchfeed?

Xrproto · 10-09-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by greenvy

What other 2nd tier SE do you recommend other than 7search and searchfeed?

Well I can't recommend because I haven't used these yet but they are on my list. I'm sure there are some people on here that have used these that could comment. But keep in mind that just because one might say something is crap another might say it's gold.

It's all about testing and retesting until you find out what's right for you.

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Elixir7 · 10-09-2006, 12:49 PM

7search has some deceiving gaps of traffic/costs.

When you're in your keyword list click on "smart bid" or whatever that little icon is a couple columns to the right of your keyword. You'll see exactly what I mean.

They have different "sources" of traffic, each of them have only a certain amount for that keyword and each of them cost differently. Their bid tool is highly deceiving.

greenvy · 10-09-2006, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir7

7search has some deceiving gaps of traffic/costs.

When you're in your keyword list click on "smart bid" or whatever that little icon is a couple columns to the right of your keyword. You'll see exactly what I mean.

They have different "sources" of traffic, each of them have only a certain amount for that keyword and each of them cost differently. Their bid tool is highly deceiving.

ahhhh I see....my keyword bid seems in a good position with 7search but on other search engines it not even close to having a high position. How am I suppose to get traffic if I follow the 0.06 cent ROB (rule of thumb) if it won't place me in a high position to get traffic.

juniodude · 10-09-2006, 02:27 PM

i'm not sure, but i think most of my traffic from 7search isnt from 7search but from their affiliate sites

greenvy · 10-10-2006, 05:21 AM

I still haven't recieve any clicks yet, spent $0 with 7search seems like no one is searching for my niche. I have 2 other site which are better niche but they're also not getting any traffic from 7search.

When adding keywords do you guys just input your niche keyword and add whatever shows up that has more than 100 searches? How do you get more keywords, do you search other search terms?

Here is one of my arbit site.... let me know what you think or any suggestions on ad placement or design. ( as of right I'm getting no traffic)
I got about only 280 keywords for this site.

Thanks

aeiouy · 10-10-2006, 10:25 AM

The search figures are by month. When you realize you are competing with other people, searches with only 100 a month where S7 does not get any searches themselves, that is only like 3 searches a day for that word, so the odds of getting a click, even if you have the #1 position on the entire network is small. Getting more then one click not likely to happen.

Jdog · 10-10-2006, 12:26 PM

Did you ever validate your account? I know they say you can spend $5, but they wouldn't let me spend anything until it validated.

You have to think outside the box and target the short tail words.

greenvy · 10-10-2006, 02:35 PM

UPDATED:
yeah got my account validated the next day....forgot they don't open on Sunday.

here what I got...

8 clicks total today (7seacrh) for 2 arbit site

7 clicks for one abrit site (0.42) 1 Adsense click (0.43), profit= (0.01)

1 click for second abrit site (0.06) 2 Adsense click (0.78) profit= (0.72)

Total Profit = 0.73
I'm happy that I'm making some kind of money

MY CHANGES:
What I did different from my last post was get more keywords! anything related to my niche I added it on my list. But they had to have atleast 100 searches in the pass month. (I might change it to atleast 200 to 300) from what aeiouy said 100 searches is only 3 searches a day!!!

10-09-2006, 03:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
greenvy Worseless Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: PDX Posts: 778 iTrader: (1)	I must be doing something wrong..... This is my first time doing arbitrage.... I just put 2 of my arbit site online...and signed up for 7search to bring in some traffic.....got about 50 keywords (.05) for each arbit site but no one is clicking?? (the ads i made on 7search) so there no traffic coming to my site! WTF am I doing wrong?? need more keywords?? get higher position with keywords?? shitty copywriting?? Oh yeah on more thing, do my 7search account has to be vaildated before I can start recieving traffic??....it does say If I can't contact them to validate my account, I could use up to $5.00 of my initial investment to advertise...so in that case, my account should be working right?? __________________ Anyone for some cheeseburger?

10-09-2006, 05:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
sebastya Moderater Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 746 iTrader: (1)	is 7search good? I've never heard of them... __________________ Affiliate Data Feed Solutions

10-09-2006, 06:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
greenvy Worseless Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: PDX Posts: 778 iTrader: (1)	thats what everyone else on here is using 7search and searchfeed for traffic. Still looking for some advice __________________ Anyone for some cheeseburger?

10-09-2006, 08:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
sebastya Moderater Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 746 iTrader: (1)	I remember jon saying they're both pretty bad ?? (one of the lightning rounds) __________________ Affiliate Data Feed Solutions

10-09-2006, 11:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
Xrproto Waste of e-space Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,758 iTrader: (4)	Add more keywords and if you are not satisfied with the volume of traffic seek other places for traffic. It's a volume game. Just look at what variables you have to adjust to get your targeted outcome. If it's traffic you want think "What numbers can I change to get more?" 1) More keywords, several hundered at least 2) Use more than one PPC campaign per site. ie: 7search plus one or more other sources for traffic. 3) If that don't work seek other niches and test them. __________________ I can assure you I am as insane as the next man.

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chrislingle Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,545 iTrader: (0)	you have to look at the kind of traffic your keyword gets in 7search, also what are the other bids? 7search sucks for aff but quite a few people do well with arbi there.

10-09-2006, 12:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
Elixir7 A Cure Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 56 iTrader: (0)	7search has some deceiving gaps of traffic/costs. When you're in your keyword list click on "smart bid" or whatever that little icon is a couple columns to the right of your keyword. You'll see exactly what I mean. They have different "sources" of traffic, each of them have only a certain amount for that keyword and each of them cost differently. Their bid tool is highly deceiving. __________________ Elixir7 - a cure for design.

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10-10-2006, 05:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
greenvy Worseless Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: PDX Posts: 778 iTrader: (1)	I still haven't recieve any clicks yet, spent $0 with 7search seems like no one is searching for my niche. I have 2 other site which are better niche but they're also not getting any traffic from 7search. When adding keywords do you guys just input your niche keyword and add whatever shows up that has more than 100 searches? How do you get more keywords, do you search other search terms? Here is one of my arbit site.... let me know what you think or any suggestions on ad placement or design. ( as of right I'm getting no traffic) I got about only 280 keywords for this site. Thanks __________________ Anyone for some cheeseburger?

10-10-2006, 10:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
aeiouy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 891 iTrader: (0)	The search figures are by month. When you realize you are competing with other people, searches with only 100 a month where S7 does not get any searches themselves, that is only like 3 searches a day for that word, so the odds of getting a click, even if you have the #1 position on the entire network is small. Getting more then one click not likely to happen. __________________ Wickedfire is spanish for F'ed Up Make Wickedfire a better place. Click Here Hakuna Matata

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Jdog Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,325 iTrader: (1)	Did you ever validate your account? I know they say you can spend $5, but they wouldn't let me spend anything until it validated. You have to think outside the box and target the short tail words. __________________ Copeac Rocks! Bluehat SEO Must Read!

10-10-2006, 02:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
greenvy Worseless Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: PDX Posts: 778 iTrader: (1)	UPDATED: yeah got my account validated the next day....forgot they don't open on Sunday. here what I got... 8 clicks total today (7seacrh) for 2 arbit site 7 clicks for one abrit site (0.42) 1 Adsense click (0.43), profit= (0.01) 1 click for second abrit site (0.06) 2 Adsense click (0.78) profit= (0.72) Total Profit = 0.73 I'm happy that I'm making some kind of money MY CHANGES: What I did different from my last post was get more keywords! anything related to my niche I added it on my list. But they had to have atleast 100 searches in the pass month. (I might change it to atleast 200 to 300) from what aeiouy said 100 searches is only 3 searches a day!!! __________________ Anyone for some cheeseburger?

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