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mojo999 · 08-24-2008, 05:12 AM

I'm in the progress of creating my first website with dreamweaver. After I made some pages, I realized that with every new page that I want to add to my website, I would have to go back to every previous pages and manually make a link to the new page on the navigation bar. Is there a better or faster way of doing this? Please help.

maffs · 08-24-2008, 07:41 AM

Noob giving Noob advice beware -

Set up a template and then use Server Side Includes (SSI) in it. Unless I've read your question wrong this should give you what you want.

mojo999 · 08-24-2008, 04:40 PM

Thanks, I'll try that. On another note, I notice that you are from South Wales. That's on top of my travel list.

maffs · 08-24-2008, 04:55 PM

Just come back from a week in Snowdonia.

Absolutely blew me away. I've seen a bit of the world but this was the first time I've been up there. Equals some of the best scenery I've seen anywhere. Do yourself a favour and visit it.

BradleyT2p2 · 08-24-2008, 09:17 PM

Look into Joomla or Wordpress or Drupal, you're creating websites the 1999 way.

alexa7 · 08-24-2008, 09:38 PM

I second the CMS route, Joomla, Drupal, Wordpress.

Single landing pages have numbered days, IMHO. A CMS will give the site a consistent look throughout, and can be stuffed with content in a very short amount of time. Users can be persuaded to add content for you. Themes and Templates are readily available and aren't really too hard to conjure up for yourself. Articles can be cued up and then posted automatically on a set date and time.

I prefer Joomla but have recently gotten back into Wordpress with ver 2.6 and the Revolution premium themes. It now gets much closer to being a true CMS instead of just a blog platform. They say SEO is better in WP than Joomla, but I don't know. Wordpress pings by nature, Joomla must be made to do it.

spyderman4g63 · 08-25-2008, 01:59 PM

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narsticle · 08-26-2008, 02:28 PM

use a content management system

butcher · 08-27-2008, 12:54 PM

You guys are all correct, some kind of CMS is probably the way to go but in answer to the question, PHP includes is probably the easiest route. Very simple. First your pages which use the includes must be a .php extension not the .html you probably are using. So, rename index.html to index.php. Cut the code from your page which directly relates to the nav and create a new blank doc. Paste the code into the blank document and save it as something like nav.html. Then where you did have the navigation code in your index page just put <?php include("nav.html"); ?> This will simply insert the code from the nav.html file into any page you use the include statement. When you need to add a page just edit the nav.html file and all pages will update. You can even use DW to write the include statement INSERT - PHP objects - INCLUDES.
Hope that helps

BTW unless you are running a local testing server the includes wont work when you preview locally but it will work on your host.

spyderman4g63 · 08-27-2008, 01:09 PM

If you do want to test locally install the WAMP stack. It's simple

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barman · 08-27-2008, 01:19 PM

use a CMS, but at the very least use php include

<?php include("menu.php"); ?> on every page where you menu goes. so when youre menu changes, you just change the menu file.

noob

amjonathan · 08-27-2008, 04:35 PM

Go for a CMS for sure.

Often times, if you go with a well known CMS there are tons of free or inexpensive templates out there that can help create the website you are aiming for.

Install, add content.

ddayse123 · 08-27-2008, 09:40 PM

I agree! You can't go wrong if you use Wordpress for CMS.
Plus...it's great for SEO.

ArTsYwRiTeR · 08-27-2008, 11:01 PM

Make life easier. Use Wordpress.

DewChugr · 08-27-2008, 11:19 PM

If you want to keep your files in html use something like this.



You can include html or php. If you are on an IIS server for some reason it is not hard to have your html parsed for php.

shishasem · 09-02-2008, 10:09 AM

I'm going to buck the trend here... started off with wordpress and now design everything using a combination of CSS/PHP. I find that way I can build sites exactly how I want them.

Goldie Dice · 09-02-2008, 10:16 AM

Personally I do not see why anyone would want to use anything other than WordPress.

It has a massive amount of great plugins that can be utilised by any kind of site.

SawanM · 09-02-2008, 11:29 AM

Yes, Wordpress is a very good software, and it has tons of features.

vasago · 09-09-2008, 05:14 AM

WordPress is good indeed but it would be nice if you know how to customize it.
So if the guy is trying to build his site from scratch, he is actually learning new things and it would be easier when he switches to wordpress, joomla or whatever...

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mojo999 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 48 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Noob needs help with page design. I'm in the progress of creating my first website with dreamweaver. After I made some pages, I realized that with every new page that I want to add to my website, I would have to go back to every previous pages and manually make a link to the new page on the navigation bar. Is there a better or faster way of doing this? Please help. __________________ Wilson Racquets Auction

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barman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,437 iTrader: 10 / 100%	use a CMS, but at the very least use php include <?php include("menu.php"); ?> on every page where you menu goes. so when youre menu changes, you just change the menu file. noob __________________ OBEY: READ PPC.BZ

08-27-2008, 04:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
amjonathan Amped Media Inc. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Go for a CMS for sure. Often times, if you go with a well known CMS there are tons of free or inexpensive templates out there that can help create the website you are aiming for. Install, add content. __________________ Join Amped Media - "Your Affiliate Network Solution" Looking for hundreds of quality pre-tested offers at industry leading payouts? Give Amped Media a try, let our experienced staff compliment your marketing strategies. Homepage \| Amped Media News \| Signup Page

08-24-2008, 07:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
maffs Small Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: South Wales Posts: 144 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Noob giving Noob advice beware - Set up a template and then use Server Side Includes (SSI) in it. Unless I've read your question wrong this should give you what you want.

08-24-2008, 04:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
maffs Small Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: South Wales Posts: 144 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Just come back from a week in Snowdonia. Absolutely blew me away. I've seen a bit of the world but this was the first time I've been up there. Equals some of the best scenery I've seen anywhere. Do yourself a favour and visit it.

08-24-2008, 09:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
BradleyT2p2 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 101 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Look into Joomla or Wordpress or Drupal, you're creating websites the 1999 way.

08-24-2008, 09:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
alexa7 Banned Not Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I second the CMS route, Joomla, Drupal, Wordpress. Single landing pages have numbered days, IMHO. A CMS will give the site a consistent look throughout, and can be stuffed with content in a very short amount of time. Users can be persuaded to add content for you. Themes and Templates are readily available and aren't really too hard to conjure up for yourself. Articles can be cued up and then posted automatically on a set date and time. I prefer Joomla but have recently gotten back into Wordpress with ver 2.6 and the Revolution premium themes. It now gets much closer to being a true CMS instead of just a blog platform. They say SEO is better in WP than Joomla, but I don't know. Wordpress pings by nature, Joomla must be made to do it.

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spyderman4g63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wheeling, WV Posts: 272 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Simple PHP Website Templates - Team Tutorials

08-27-2008, 12:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
butcher Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: UK Posts: 114 iTrader: 1 / 100%	You guys are all correct, some kind of CMS is probably the way to go but in answer to the question, PHP includes is probably the easiest route. Very simple. First your pages which use the includes must be a .php extension not the .html you probably are using. So, rename index.html to index.php. Cut the code from your page which directly relates to the nav and create a new blank doc. Paste the code into the blank document and save it as something like nav.html. Then where you did have the navigation code in your index page just put <?php include("nav.html"); ?> This will simply insert the code from the nav.html file into any page you use the include statement. When you need to add a page just edit the nav.html file and all pages will update. You can even use DW to write the include statement INSERT - PHP objects - INCLUDES. Hope that helps BTW unless you are running a local testing server the includes wont work when you preview locally but it will work on your host.

08-27-2008, 01:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
spyderman4g63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wheeling, WV Posts: 272 iTrader: 0 / 0%	If you do want to test locally install the WAMP stack. It's simple PHP Apache MySQL avec WampServer 2 : installation PHP MySQL Apache

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ddayse123 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I agree! You can't go wrong if you use Wordpress for CMS. Plus...it's great for SEO. __________________ WordPress + PhpBay Pro = $Passive Income$

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ArTsYwRiTeR Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Make life easier. Use Wordpress. __________________

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DewChugr Photoshop God Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 662 iTrader: 0 / 0%	If you want to keep your files in html use something like this. <!--#include virtual="menu.php"--> You can include html or php. If you are on an IIS server for some reason it is not hard to have your html parsed for php. __________________ ''Life's tough......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'' -- John Wayne Hey Newbie, watch the Wickedfire newbie video

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