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Old 11-08-2008, 03:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Buying traffic for EPN site - question

Anyone heard of coachtraffic.com?

They are selling traffic for epn sites and I am wondering if anyone has used them here?

Can an experienced person look at their site and tell me what their impression is?

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Old 11-08-2008, 05:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You don't need to buy their shit. The best thing you can do is linkbuild and make sure your EPN site is extremely well put together for SEO.

Organic traffic is the best for 99% of EPN sites out there.

Make sure the site has the basics:
-normal footer links (privacy, customer service, etc., contact, refunds) even if they point to bullshit pages.
-Make sure you have the keywords in the URL
-Make sure your keyword density is as such that your most obvious phrase is not "and then", but rather "product name"
-Make sure to use sitemaps (XML Sitemap if you use Wordpress) and keep them updated daily
-Use CSS, no tables.
-Fill in those ALT TEXT tags for images and TITLE tags for anchor links
-Use the right URL formation, no "domain.com?itemid=39393939", but rather domain.com/productTitle/
-Use lowest common demonimator with your site layout. Don't use Bicycles, use "huffy bike", "cannondale bikes" and so on. Make sure you break this down to the most reasonable lowest common denominator.
-Use Goog analytics and webmaster tools to monitor site progress/stats/etc.

Work your ass off on the basics and let the traffic come to you, don't bother with the other shit, unless it's a $.10 CPC PPC adgroup for your most searched for terms.
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Anyone heard of coachtraffic.com?

They are selling traffic for epn sites and I am wondering if anyone has used them here?

Can an experienced person look at their site and tell me what their impression is?

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I can't remember where I saw another post about these guys but I tried the free promotion that they had going on for Nov. 2nd. I signed up for the test on the 2nd and on the 5th and 6th I saw a huge pageview spike on the site that I wanted the traffic for. I didn't think anything of it because google analytics said that for 500 pageviews there were only 6 visitors. I thought that they were only sending bot traffic today I logged into my epn account and saw that thursdays free traffic made me $123.61. I know this is a direct result from coachetraffic.com because I haven't promoted that website much and it usually only gets 50 pageviews per month. I'm going to try a paid block of traffic and see how that goes. I'll report back with more information after I receive their traffic.
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I can't remember where I saw another post about these guys but I tried the free promotion that they had going on for Nov. 2nd. I signed up for the test on the 2nd and on the 5th and 6th I saw a huge pageview spike on the site that I wanted the traffic for. I didn't think anything of it because google analytics said that for 500 pageviews there were only 6 visitors. I thought that they were only sending bot traffic today I logged into my epn account and saw that thursdays free traffic made me $123.61. I know this is a direct result from coachetraffic.com because I haven't promoted that website much and it usually only gets 50 pageviews per month. I'm going to try a paid block of traffic and see how that goes. I'll report back with more information after I receive their traffic.
I have asked them for more info... They say they guarantee at least double your money, so I don't see how I could go wrong, but I don't want to risk getting banned from epn or something.

thanks for your replies... Anyone else have experience with them?
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I have asked them for more info... They say they guarantee at least double your money, so I don't see how I could go wrong, but I don't want to risk getting banned from epn or something.

thanks for your replies... Anyone else have experience with them?
If they could double your money, why wouldn't they do it themselves? EPN sites are easy to create, don't fall for their BS.
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If they could double your money, why wouldn't they do it themselves? EPN sites are easy to create, don't fall for their BS.
Exactly, but hey, the OP wants easy interwebz millions, so he'll probably be a total fag and buy their shit anyway.
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Good one

Despite your arrogance, I will still ask questions about 'products' that people are offering. Real people often help others and steer newer people of bogus offers. Some people aren't real people and just use poor language and don't really help. I am not as "new" as you may think, but you certainly make one think of the value this particular forum has. I guess the forum moderators like that kind of talk.
By the way, I had took some of bb_wolfe's advice in the post above, but now I am wondering of the validity of it.


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Despite your arrogance, I will still ask questions about 'products' that people are offering. Real people often help others and steer newer people of bogus offers. Some people aren't real people and just use poor language and don't really help. I am not as "new" as you may think, but you certainly make one think of the value this particular forum has. I guess the forum moderators like that kind of talk.
By the way, I had took some of bb_wolfe's advice in the post above, but now I am wondering of the validity of it.
Don't ask a question, get a response and then be a complete douche about it. bb threw down some good info and if you can't handle a little hazing for your douchebaggery...then this is not the place for you, neither is running this kind of biz, this shit is cut throat biz, eat or be eaten son! word..
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They say they guarantee at least double your money, so I don't see how I could go wrong,...
This is the point where most people around here are gonna stop looking at it as a serious proposal.

I've done EPN and their predecessor at CJ for about a year now and I've yet to see anyone do well with paid traffic when they play by the rules.

edit- I just looked again and they are claiming there are no iframes or cookie stuffing, it looks like some sort of a traffic exchange, maybe driven by PPC search engines.
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Thanks for the comment.. they do have some satisfied customers.
If they have a way to send legitimate converting traffic to my epn site and we all make money, it's okay with me.
I was just wondering what others thought.
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This is the point where most people around here are gonna stop looking at it as a serious proposal.

I've done EPN and their predecessor at CJ for about a year now and I've yet to see anyone do well with paid traffic when they play by the rules.

edit- I just looked again and they are claiming there are no iframes or cookie stuffing, it looks like some sort of a traffic exchange, maybe driven by PPC search engines.
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Despite your arrogance, I will still ask questions about 'products' that people are offering. Real people often help others and steer newer people of bogus offers. Some people aren't real people and just use poor language and don't really help. I am not as "new" as you may think, but you certainly make one think of the value this particular forum has. I guess the forum moderators like that kind of talk.
By the way, I had took some of bb_wolfe's advice in the post above, but now I am wondering of the validity of it.
There is no way in hell you implemented all that in under a day. Just go back to DigitalPoint, you are as new as I think.

For any other EPN noobs, it's a simple formula: Time + Effort + Scaling + Effort == PROFIT.

Don't start thinking that you'll drop $.05 CPC on your best keywords and see 5000% ROI, or pay someone to send "tons of great traffic" to your site.
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Fuck the OP, I just want to add some value to this thread for the other readers.

Strictly from experience, ebay works amazing with organic traffic, and crappy with ppc traffic.
Ebay sites are for long term, small cash and scale up projects.

Even niches with like 10 visits/week can get you conversions with epn. So, dont try to force sales, go the SEO organic traffic way, and scale. You will see the sites bringing in steady cash eventually. A hint is to make sure your ebaystore is well indexed, and with a sitemap.
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Fuck the OP, I just want to add some value to this thread for the other readers.

Strictly from experience, ebay works amazing with organic traffic, and crappy with ppc traffic.
Ebay sites are for long term, small cash and scale up projects.

Even niches with like 10 visits/week can get you conversions with epn. So, dont try to force sales, go the SEO organic traffic way, and scale. You will see the sites bringing in steady cash eventually. A hint is to make sure your ebaystore is well indexed, and with a sitemap.
Agreed. Also to the OP, stop being a fucking douche. BB gave you EXACTLY what you needed to do - but nooo you want to make MILLIONZ FASTAR!!

"Whats the worst they can do?" - Penalize or de-index your site for the lifetime of the domain. How's that for worst?
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"Whats the worst they can do?" - Penalize or de-index your site for the lifetime of the domain. How's that for worst?
If that happens bofu2u, we'll sell him our exclusive "Get back onto Google" product. Only $1200 and in 20 seconds, we'll get you back on Google.

In other words, we have $1200 extra for booze at ASW and he's sitting home like a douche!
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I'm actually interested in starting up some Ebay Stores in order to make a bit of a passive income since my aggressive attempts at PPC have left my pockets almost hollow The way I see it is there are two approaches that people take with these Ebay Stores (BANS/PHPBay):

1. Set it and forget it: seems like an approach similar to what bb_wolfe was describing above. Basically you create a site where the key focus is the store, with some articles and posts on the side, and cover all the correct SEO factors (Permalinks, xml sitemap, meta tages, keyword dense articles, link building, etc.). Then you leave it (or perhaps work systematically on a proper link-building campaign) and wait for traffic to slowely come in.

Pros: these are relatively quick to make, and therefore easy to scale by creating more stores (ie. an empire)
Cons: Doesn't provide the customer with too much niche specific value asides from a few articles which may or may not be of high quality. This results in a Clicks:Conversion ratio that is not very high and therefore Ebay may penalize you by kicking you off their network (which has been common as of late).


2. high quality content rich site + Store: Putting more focus into creating a high quality content rich site, provding the customer with much more than just a store. Some have added forums, videos, polls, regularily updated blog/articles, and a very systematic link-building/social networking campaign.

Pros: Become more of an authority on your niche and have more return customers as well as the possibility of much more traffic and conversions. Also the ability to monetize the site in other ways that just Ebay.
Cons: Takes much more time to launch and maintain, which means that it's harder to create many of these.


Conclusion/Question: I have very limited experience using BANS/PHPBay (I created a few stores in the past with a few articles each and more or less forgot about them = they lost all their traffic eventually) and want to know which one of these methods is most recommended? I'm thinking it would be a medium between the two options, but my problem is trying to find a happy medium (ie. how much work i should do before moving on, or not moving on)

*To the original poster: buying chunks of "guaranteed" traffic is not a long-term or sustainable method, listen to what the successful guys here tell you... it's a joke, and you'll only fail yourself by following this kind of rich-quick mentality. Create a solid, long-term business plan and follow it.
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Why are you guys talking sh*t? You haven't even tried their service, but you are all knowing everything about them.

I tried them, and I can say that i buyed a 25$ pack, and my earning are up to 200€ !

So, do not talk when you don't know what are you talking.

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Why are you guys talking sh*t? You haven't even tried their service, but you are all knowing everything about them.

I tried them, and I can say that i buyed a 25$ pack, and my earning are up to 200€ !

So, do not talk when you don't know what are you talking.

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I'll take it one step further I think Portugalkix=linuxgeek=coachtraffic.com
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Stay chill, i am not the owner of coachtraffic.com

I would love to be, and to know how to make tons of sales :-).

Anyway, before talking, you should try. This is an "international law", do not talk without knowing.

And, here is my proof:
http://imagehost.rophotoshop.com/pic...fd267cd923.JPG

So, how do you guys think that in one day with 50 clicks, could I earn 120€?


Shut up next time. And also remeber: Before saying something, think about it.
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Will the UN's bluehats be enforcing this "international law?"


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Stay chill, i am not the owner of coachtraffic.com

I would love to be, and to know how to make tons of sales :-).

Anyway, before talking, you should try. This is an "international law", do not talk without knowing.

And, here is my proof:
http://imagehost.rophotoshop.com/pic...fd267cd923.JPG

So, how do you guys think that in one day with 50 clicks, could I earn 120€?


Shut up next time. And also remeber: Before saying something, think about it.
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