Will this work? (involves selling clickbank product) - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

lemons884 · 11-17-2008, 05:29 PM

I'm trying to sell the clickbank product "Fitness Model Program" on Bidvertiser. This is what the ad looks like:

I plan on using $35 and setting the bid to $0.05. This will get me 700 clicks.

This is the link
lemons884.fitnessmo1.hop.clickbank.net/

I think the product has a really good sales pitch. I targeted the ad to just the United States.

Will this work?

xtreme5000 · 11-17-2008, 05:51 PM

Only way to find out is by trying it. If we knew for certain if it would work, we'd be banking ourselves. Bidvertiser for me hasn't converted too well in the past, and I don't know if you'll get much clicks with a 0.05 bid in the fitness niche, but learning is how you profit in this game.

barman · 11-17-2008, 05:58 PM

It won't work because you touch yourself at night.

ajnnadeau · 11-17-2008, 07:13 PM

Just give it a try. If you can get $.05 clicks then you should be able to make a couple sales on 700 visitors. I am just not sure that you will be able to get $.05 clicks. You can't be afraid to lose money in this industry. Test it and if you do not get any sales and 700 visitors then something is wrong and you need to go back to the drawing board and see where you went wrong, but don't look at it like losing $35, but rather investing $35 for the information obtained from testing.

lemons884 · 11-24-2008, 05:57 PM

One question though on clickbank.

suppose the visitor to my clickbank link adds my site to his favorites. and then purchases the product like a week or 2 later when he/she gets the money. Would I still get the sale?

Affiliace.com · 11-24-2008, 07:17 PM

I would suggest playing with multiple ad variations to see which converts best and which gives the highest CTR.

Bubbabubba · 11-25-2008, 02:22 AM

Clickbank tracks your cookies for 30 days, so yes...anytime in the first month you've sent someone there (assuming another affiliate doesn't send them to the site) then you will get commision

Keep us updated on how this goes

lemons884 · 11-26-2008, 04:43 PM

Update

Just paid $35 to my Bidvertiser account. The transaction will take 3-4 business days. Once the $35 is in then I can activiate my account.

I really hope this works.....but I decided that $35 is nothing and that theres potential to earn money here.

Quote:

39) The Official Fitness Model Program. The Official Fitness Model Program By Fitness Model Jennifer Nicole Lee, Oxygen Magazine Cover Model! $197 Sales Price, 75% Commission, High Conversion Rates! $100 Commission Payouts Per Sale!!!
$/sale: $138.88 | Future $: - | Total $/sale: $138.88 | %/sale: 73.0% | %refd: 55.0% | grav: 10.38
view pitch page | create hoplink

It looks like that on clickbank. It has a really good sales pitch so I might get lucky. Just think if all 700 visitors buy the product. (138.88*700) lol I would make $97,216.

Yaxxx · 11-26-2008, 04:53 PM

This won't happen. Ever. You'll be mega lucky to get one sale.

Bidvertiser has shit traffic (for me anyways). But hey, 5c a click, you get what you pay for.

And please tell me that "if all 700 buy, I'll make 6 figs" was a joke. You whipped out your calculator and worked it out, so I don't think it was.

Don't mean to be a dick, I'm jus' tellin you the truth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemons884

Update

Just paid $35 to my Bidvertiser account. The transaction will take 3-4 business days. Once the $35 is in then I can activiate my account.

I really hope this works.....but I decided that $35 is nothing and that theres potential to earn money here.

It looks like that on clickbank. It has a really good sales pitch so I might get lucky. Just think if all 700 visitors buy the product. (138.88*700) lol I would make $97,216.

lemons884 · 11-26-2008, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaxxx

This won't happen. Ever. You'll be mega lucky to get one sale.

Bidvertiser has shit traffic (for me anyways). But hey, 5c a click, you get what you pay for.

And please tell me that "if all 700 buy, I'll make 6 figs" was a joke. You whipped out your calculator and worked it out, so I don't think it was.

Don't mean to be a dick, I'm jus' tellin you the truth.

It was a joke lmao. I'm hoping for just 1 sale. I'm gonna guess 650 out of those 700 visitors will only look at the page for a second, scroll through it a little, and then exit.

maybe bidvertiser didn't work for you but o well I already made the transfer to my bidvertiser account and can't turn around now. I'm gonna give it a try. If I don't make a sale...o well at least I tried and learned something.

Phre0nBurn · 11-27-2008, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barman

It won't work because you touch yourself at night.

Would this happen to apply to all methods, or just this one in particular?

If it applies to all methods, I think I just figured out my problem...

:\

Crap... Money, or touching myself...

This is a fucking tough one.

ayzo · 11-27-2008, 05:55 AM

Ouch, you shouldn't waste your time with bidvertiser. Nearly all of their traffic comes from "paid to click" networks AKA 13 year olds without credit cards clicking ads in hopes of making $0.01. Checkout their affinity at quantcast: bidvertiser.com - Quantcast Audience Profile

lemons884 · 11-27-2008, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayzo

Ouch, you shouldn't waste your time with bidvertiser. Nearly all of their traffic comes from "paid to click" networks AKA 13 year olds without credit cards clicking ads in hopes of making $0.01. Checkout their affinity at quantcast: bidvertiser.com - Quantcast Audience Profile

shit.......

I'm starting to think I have better chances of making money if I put a page that says "I have cancer please donate"......

lemons884 · 12-02-2008, 04:08 PM

Update

The funds have been added. My ads just started running. I have a daily budget of $5 out of a total of $35. I am getting $0.05 per click so my clickbank link will get a total of 700 visits. The goal is 1 sale.

kingofsp · 12-02-2008, 05:14 PM

Even though Clickbank is a joke of a network and I'm sure "Bidvertiser" is equally notable, I commend you, lemons884, for actually trying something and posting your progress.

a!!!!1 · 12-02-2008, 05:27 PM

Are Bidvertiser clicks always so cheap?

fortunekid · 12-03-2008, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemons884

I'm trying to sell the clickbank product "Fitness Model Program" on Bidvertiser. This is what the ad looks like:

I plan on using $35 and setting the bid to $0.05. This will get me 700 clicks.

This is the link
lemons884.fitnessmo1.hop.clickbank.net/

I think the product has a really good sales pitch. I targeted the ad to just the United States.

Will this work?

I'm sure it'll work. i will check out bidvertiser.I use google adwords for my ad campaigns.easy to set up even for a newbie.The first ad i put up couple of yrs ago had hits but no sale.maybe becoz i didnt set my budget right or didnt market it much

lemons884 · 12-03-2008, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingofsp

Even though Clickbank is a joke of a network and I'm sure "Bidvertiser" is equally notable, I commend you, lemons884, for actually trying something and posting your progress.

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by a!!!!1

Are Bidvertiser clicks always so cheap?

I set mine low just so I could get more visitors so I will have a better chance of making a sale.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortunekid

I'm sure it'll work. i will check out bidvertiser.I use google adwords for my ad campaigns.easy to set up even for a newbie.The first ad i put up couple of yrs ago had hits but no sale.maybe becoz i didnt set my budget right or didnt market it much

I hope so! I'm down $1 so far (20 visitors) and so far no sales. If I get down to about halfway (have like $15 left) and still no sales then maybe I'll get a little worried.

If I fail then I think what I'm gonna do is become an affiliate for the product. The sales pitch is really good and they have lots of stuff for affiliates to use- so I'm gonna give that a try.

a!!!!1 · 12-03-2008, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemons884

I set mine low just so I could get more visitors so I will have a better chance of making a sale.

Well yeah, I meant it's surprising that you can actually get impressions with such low bids.

PhillipMarlow · 12-03-2008, 05:31 PM

I sure do like that sig of yours.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortunekid

I'm sure it'll work. i will check out bidvertiser.I use google adwords for my ad campaigns.easy to set up even for a newbie.The first ad i put up couple of yrs ago had hits but no sale.maybe becoz i didnt set my budget right or didnt market it much

lemons884 · 12-03-2008, 06:49 PM

lol my daily cap was set at $1.00 thats why I was getting low impressions. I set it to $5.00

Something tells me in the back of my mind I won't make a sale- otherwise everyone would be doing this....

zmxn73 · 12-04-2008, 06:27 AM

Could someone tell me why bidvertiser is better than using google adwords. Is it just the fact that its across a multitude of networks?

lemons884 · 12-04-2008, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmxn73

Could someone tell me why bidvertiser is better than using google adwords. Is it just the fact that its across a multitude of networks?

I don't think bidvertiser is better.

I'm down to $20 left and still no sale.

shit- Im more in the negative now when starting to make money online.

dangregory · 12-04-2008, 11:30 AM

Um, why hasn't anybody pointed out the fact that Clickbank has been "broken" for over a month?

Seriously, dude, type in "clickbank sucks' and you'll find tons of recent forum posts.

My tracking at Clickbank both as an affiliate and as a vendor suddenly stopped. So I made ZERO sales for a month. This problem is affecting a lot of accounts at Clickbank. Sure, you'll find the occasional bozo who says, "I'm doing fine !I'm not having any problems!" and they try to make the rest of us who are having problems feel like shit, but then you see how people have been carefully tracking the problems Clickbank is having across thousands of accounts....and all Clickbank does is admit to having had a problem ONE DAY out of 30 and then they tell you it's the economy.

Try promoting products at Paydot.com there's some good stuff there.

Dan

lemons884 · 12-04-2008, 05:56 PM

I have exactly $28.40 left in my bidvertiser account. (which is weird because I had less earlier? maybe they recredited me from fraud clicks or something)

I paused the ad....this product is not gonna make any sales and I don't wanna waste the rest of it.

What could I use this to make it worthwhile?

hyperpoet · 12-05-2008, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barman

It won't work because you touch yourself at night.

HAHAHAHA!! Nice

lemons884 · 12-06-2008, 01:54 PM

So...any suggestions of what I should use the rest of the money for? I think I'm just gonna put it into advertising my PPC account. (the only way I'm making money right now)

I got my learning and studying to do on affiliate marketing. :/

hellblazer · 12-06-2008, 08:48 PM

Post your stats. How many impressions, how many clicks, etc..

It's always good to see what you can learn from any advertising campaign, regardless of the cost.

And the thought that it wont be profitable because otherwise 'everyone else would be doing it' is not good at all. There's tons of undiscovered niches, products, landing pages, right combinations thereof. Its easy to get intimidated starting out, but don't fall into that type of thinking.

lemons884 · 12-06-2008, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellblazer

Post your stats. How many impressions, how many clicks, etc..

It's always good to see what you can learn from any advertising campaign, regardless of the cost.

And the thought that it wont be profitable because otherwise 'everyone else would be doing it' is not good at all. There's tons of undiscovered niches, products, landing pages, right combinations thereof. Its easy to get intimidated starting out, but don't fall into that type of thinking.

Well I found out that clickbank didn't work. Now I'm gonna use the money to advertise my website host which has a good affilite program. The ad is currently pending on bidvertiser and I still have $28 so I'll keep updating on how that goes.

lemons884 · 12-07-2008, 11:03 PM

The $35 is all gone

I gained no sales, however, I did gain one referral under the affiliate program itself. I'm gonna guess that this affiliate will probably disapper and never make a sale as well (but I could be wrong).

Lesson Learned-
1.) Don't use bidvertiser ads
2.) Input what you think I should have learned here.

o and use your money wisely....

hellblazer · 12-07-2008, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemons884

The $35 is all gone

I gained no sales, however, I did gain one referral under the affiliate program itself. I'm gonna guess that this affiliate will probably disapper and never make a sale as well (but I could be wrong).

Lesson Learned-
1.) Don't use bidvertiser ads
2.) Input what you think I should have learned here.

o and use your money wisely....

It could have been a lot of factors. First, Bidvertiser isn't exactly quality traffic, so there's one problem. Second, your product might have been in a bad niche, etc..

Third, your keywords could have been bad, your ad copy could have been bad.

Fourth, if you were direct linking, there was no presell. If you weren't direct linking, the landing page might have been unconvincing.

What was your CTR? How many clicks did you get? I'm sure you could still learn something from the information you generated.

lemons884 · 12-08-2008, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellblazer

It could have been a lot of factors. First, Bidvertiser isn't exactly quality traffic, so there's one problem. Second, your product might have been in a bad niche, etc..

Third, your keywords could have been bad, your ad copy could have been bad.

Fourth, if you were direct linking, there was no presell. If you weren't direct linking, the landing page might have been unconvincing.

What was your CTR? How many clicks did you get? I'm sure you could still learn something from the information you generated.

CTR: 0.07%
571 clicks

11-17-2008, 05:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
lemons884 Noob Alert...bare with me Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 310 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Will this work? (involves selling clickbank product) I'm trying to sell the clickbank product "Fitness Model Program" on Bidvertiser. This is what the ad looks like: I plan on using $35 and setting the bid to $0.05. This will get me 700 clicks. This is the link lemons884.fitnessmo1.hop.clickbank.net/ I think the product has a really good sales pitch. I targeted the ad to just the United States. Will this work?

11-17-2008, 05:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
barman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,357 iTrader: 10 / 100%	It won't work because you touch yourself at night. __________________ PPC.BZ: The Greatest Affiliate Marketing Blog. Ever.

11-24-2008, 07:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Affiliace.com Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 57 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I would suggest playing with multiple ad variations to see which converts best and which gives the highest CTR. __________________ Mike Bertrand - Affiliate Network Manager (SKYPE: Affiliace) Affiliace.com : Affiliate Network Passion Search Online Dating: Tons of Geo-Targeted Creatives!

11-27-2008, 05:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
ayzo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,021 iTrader: 13 / 100%	Ouch, you shouldn't waste your time with bidvertiser. Nearly all of their traffic comes from "paid to click" networks AKA 13 year olds without credit cards clicking ads in hopes of making $0.01. Checkout their affinity at quantcast: bidvertiser.com - Quantcast Audience Profile __________________

12-02-2008, 05:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
kingofsp OffWhiteHat.com Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,251 iTrader: 25 / 100%	Even though Clickbank is a joke of a network and I'm sure "Bidvertiser" is equally notable, I commend you, lemons884, for actually trying something and posting your progress. __________________ Read my dang blawg: Off-White Hat

11-17-2008, 05:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
xtreme5000 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 150 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Only way to find out is by trying it. If we knew for certain if it would work, we'd be banking ourselves. Bidvertiser for me hasn't converted too well in the past, and I don't know if you'll get much clicks with a 0.05 bid in the fitness niche, but learning is how you profit in this game.

11-17-2008, 07:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
ajnnadeau Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Just give it a try. If you can get $.05 clicks then you should be able to make a couple sales on 700 visitors. I am just not sure that you will be able to get $.05 clicks. You can't be afraid to lose money in this industry. Test it and if you do not get any sales and 700 visitors then something is wrong and you need to go back to the drawing board and see where you went wrong, but don't look at it like losing $35, but rather investing $35 for the information obtained from testing.

11-24-2008, 05:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
lemons884 Noob Alert...bare with me Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 310 iTrader: 2 / 100%	One question though on clickbank. suppose the visitor to my clickbank link adds my site to his favorites. and then purchases the product like a week or 2 later when he/she gets the money. Would I still get the sale?

11-25-2008, 02:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bubbabubba Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 40 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Clickbank tracks your cookies for 30 days, so yes...anytime in the first month you've sent someone there (assuming another affiliate doesn't send them to the site) then you will get commision Keep us updated on how this goes

12-02-2008, 04:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
lemons884 Noob Alert...bare with me Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 310 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Update The funds have been added. My ads just started running. I have a daily budget of $5 out of a total of $35. I am getting $0.05 per click so my clickbank link will get a total of 700 visits. The goal is 1 sale.

12-02-2008, 05:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
a!!!!1 Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 509 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Are Bidvertiser clicks always so cheap?

12-03-2008, 06:49 PM	#21 (permalink)
lemons884 Noob Alert...bare with me Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 310 iTrader: 2 / 100%	lol my daily cap was set at $1.00 thats why I was getting low impressions. I set it to $5.00 Something tells me in the back of my mind I won't make a sale- otherwise everyone would be doing this....

12-04-2008, 06:27 AM	#22 (permalink)
zmxn73 Asshat Noob Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 185 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Could someone tell me why bidvertiser is better than using google adwords. Is it just the fact that its across a multitude of networks?

12-04-2008, 11:30 AM	#24 (permalink)
dangregory Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 109 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Um, why hasn't anybody pointed out the fact that Clickbank has been "broken" for over a month? Seriously, dude, type in "clickbank sucks' and you'll find tons of recent forum posts. My tracking at Clickbank both as an affiliate and as a vendor suddenly stopped. So I made ZERO sales for a month. This problem is affecting a lot of accounts at Clickbank. Sure, you'll find the occasional bozo who says, "I'm doing fine !I'm not having any problems!" and they try to make the rest of us who are having problems feel like shit, but then you see how people have been carefully tracking the problems Clickbank is having across thousands of accounts....and all Clickbank does is admit to having had a problem ONE DAY out of 30 and then they tell you it's the economy. Try promoting products at Paydot.com there's some good stuff there. Dan

12-04-2008, 05:56 PM	#25 (permalink)
lemons884 Noob Alert...bare with me Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 310 iTrader: 2 / 100%	I have exactly $28.40 left in my bidvertiser account. (which is weird because I had less earlier? maybe they recredited me from fraud clicks or something) I paused the ad....this product is not gonna make any sales and I don't wanna waste the rest of it. What could I use this to make it worthwhile?

12-06-2008, 01:54 PM	#27 (permalink)
lemons884 Noob Alert...bare with me Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 310 iTrader: 2 / 100%	So...any suggestions of what I should use the rest of the money for? I think I'm just gonna put it into advertising my PPC account. (the only way I'm making money right now) I got my learning and studying to do on affiliate marketing. :/

12-06-2008, 08:48 PM	#28 (permalink)
hellblazer Agent 44 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,238 iTrader: 7 / 100%	Post your stats. How many impressions, how many clicks, etc.. It's always good to see what you can learn from any advertising campaign, regardless of the cost. And the thought that it wont be profitable because otherwise 'everyone else would be doing it' is not good at all. There's tons of undiscovered niches, products, landing pages, right combinations thereof. Its easy to get intimidated starting out, but don't fall into that type of thinking.

12-07-2008, 11:03 PM	#30 (permalink)
lemons884 Noob Alert...bare with me Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 310 iTrader: 2 / 100%	The $35 is all gone I gained no sales, however, I did gain one referral under the affiliate program itself. I'm gonna guess that this affiliate will probably disapper and never make a sale as well (but I could be wrong). Lesson Learned- 1.) Don't use bidvertiser ads 2.) Input what you think I should have learned here. o and use your money wisely....

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