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Old 03-27-2009, 02:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Newbiealert Planning to start SEO service

Hi there,

A co-worker and I are planning to start an independent SEO service, looking forward to quit our jobs in a short future to work in that full time.

The question is: $1000 for a comprehensive SEO service sounds...

a) expensive
b) OK
c) cheap

...for you.

What I mean for comprehensive:

1. on-page SEO work
2. rewriting articles
3. recoding website (redesign available for a plus)
4. link-building
5. traffic monitoring
6. pursue of company selling goals.

Some of my experience includes:

1. AsianSingles.com first on Google.
2. Gorgeous-Singles.Blogspot.com first on Google.
3. Heptagrama, as own site appears first on many searches in Latin America.

So, honestly, what do you think?
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Some people on this forum charge 1200 for a wordpress install... Do what you can get away with IMHO!
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sounds good to me lol pm me when it starts
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It really depends on what you're optimizing for, if it was "custom leather jackets" then $1,000 would probably be ok. If it was for something like "payday loan" then $1,000 would be way too cheap. I'd suggest staying away from fixed pricing and moving over to a tiered system where the price is based on the amount of links needed, competing websites for keyword, keyword search volume etc.
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I'd agree to base the pricing on how competitive the battle is. But also set up an upside as your reward based on success so that its low to start but builds up as you perform.

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Just an extra post to say we're open for business:

Base price is $1000 + Peruvian tax = $1190
Taking outsourced projects? Yes.
Evaluating giving a $100 commission if you help us get clients. Soon an extra post about that.

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Pervuian tax = cocaine budget, right?

Seriously though, the commission is basically an affiliate program. Is that something you guys intend to run internally, or through a 3rd party network?
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Per month or one-time?

As for the $1000 - it depends. For a small-time flower shop in a little town, $1000 is reasonable. A PI Lawyer in the Dallas metro area is going to need a much larger budget.
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start by calling other firms and ask them their rate. Deciding who your customers are going to be and what they expect to be charged is a great place to start as well.

Rate vary big time in seo or any web development. When someone asks you "How much is SEO or a web site", the best response I've ever heard is "How much is a House" - because it all depends on what the consumer wants

Personally, I wouldn't publish any base rates
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Also, the success of this will depend on your past RESULTS!

Can you boast of a string of successful SEO campaigns in competitive sectors?
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I will get you to SEO a PI lawyer in Dallas for 1000 dollars, then charge him 11,000. Sounds resonable.
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The one tip I would get for starting that work is to plenty of potential clients they are going to judge your worth by your price. Most businesses will know squat about SEO that's why they are hiring you and they will figure the person charging the most is the best plenty of the time.

When I tutored high school math I first started offering to do it for $25 a hour, I bumped up my rate to $70 a hour and got more more responses and business from the same amount of advertising.
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The one tip I would get for starting that work is to plenty of potential clients they are going to judge your worth by your price. Most businesses will know squat about SEO that's why they are hiring you and they will figure the person charging the most is the best plenty of the time.

When I tutored high school math I first started offering to do it for $25 a hour, I bumped up my rate to $70 a hour and got more more responses and business from the same amount of advertising.
Funny how the world works, good point.
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You might want to keep it a little more expensive but yeah as someone already mentioned, you shouldn't go with a base price. Try giving each client a custom built quotation depending upon their niche.
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Seriously though, the commission is basically an affiliate program. Is that something you guys intend to run internally, or through a 3rd party network?
We will have to find an affiliate network which works with Peru, I guess. If not, we will have to do it ourselves.
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Per month or one-time?

As for the $1000 - it depends. For a small-time flower shop in a little town, $1000 is reasonable. A PI Lawyer in the Dallas metro area is going to need a much larger budget.
The idea was $1000 or more per project. If the niche is competitive, we would try to charge more, of course.
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I'll keep it in mind, thank you. I haven't made any web page for this yet.
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The one tip I would get for starting that work is to plenty of potential clients they are going to judge your worth by your price. Most businesses will know squat about SEO that's why they are hiring you and they will figure the person charging the most is the best plenty of the time.

When I tutored high school math I first started offering to do it for $25 a hour, I bumped up my rate to $70 a hour and got more more responses and business from the same amount of advertising.
Yes, you are right. The main doubt I have is that $1000 for Peru is expensive, while it seems that for the US and Europe it is way too cheap.

mm... I think I'll prepare a web page and ask you for some feed back in a few days.
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You should create several packages for clients. Some cheaper packages can make you go in the beginning. As people don't know you yet you have prove yourself. So begin small, grow big. Good luck!
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It totally depends on the clientele you are looking for. The interesting thing is that the cheaper the service, the bigger pain in the ass the client will be. I can assure you of that. Sometimes quality (size) of client is far more important than the volume of clients, especially with any sort of online or offline marketing/advertising agency.
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You could looking for a cheaper service in my opinion. However if this is very quality for you just go ahead.
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I don't think a fixed price system would work. Like others said for $1,000 you can rank for a small competition keyword to medium but to compete for some high traffic keywords I have heard of companies forking out 6 figures and the contracts were for 6 months. There are way too many variables and expenses to try to do fixed pricing.
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It totally depends on the clientele you are looking for. The interesting thing is that the cheaper the service, the bigger pain in the ass the client will be. I can assure you of that. Sometimes quality (size) of client is far more important than the volume of clients, especially with any sort of online or offline marketing/advertising agency.

I agree 100%. What a pain in the arse the cheap bastards are.

Additionally, what usually happens is most SEO Agencies have 1-3 big clients they usually run with who gives them the bulk of their business.

The biggest thing you are going to struggle with is getting new clients. Sales is the backbone. Once you learn to get the sales process down, you can learn how to get rankings cheaper and cut costs = more profit.

Fuck i'm on here all day trying to find quality people to work with to do the grunt work so we don't have to do it in-house.

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Generally you mark up your prices 3 fold. So if I pay my in-house guy $20 an hour and it takes him 1 hour to do the task or job, We would charge the client $60. I wouldn't go with a set price system, I would customize the pricing for every client taking into consideration how much it would cost you, and how much time it will take.

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Its def all about your target clients. Ex: Doctors, Lawyers you can get away with charging in the $5k-$8k range, more tech savvvy people... more along the lines of $2k. Regardless, you are def on the low end.
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What terms did AsianSingles.com rank #1 for?

I did some checking and the only keyword of any value that is ranks #1 for is "Asian Singles" which is not that impressive since you were promoting the .com of the domain to the keyword.

The only other keywords you ranked good for involve Asian married women and those had a very low click volume.

Did I miss something here?

With that said, I would say the proof you published would make your SEO average. So $1k would probably be in the range you could expect to get.
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