Bizops, fake testimonials, screenshots? - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

metalhead · 08-05-2009, 01:15 PM

I saw this on another forum:

Quote:

I heard they were trying to make some law against doing this.

Can I still sell a product that promises to show you how to make money with fake testimonials and screenshots showing $1,000 deposits into my adsense and CB accounts?

The author says he thought he heard somewhere about a law being passed making fake testimonials illegal or something like that. Is that true?

oksk89 · 08-05-2009, 01:20 PM

uh oh

mattfca · 08-05-2009, 01:24 PM

Yes it is true.

xmcp123 · 08-05-2009, 01:28 PM

Yeah. The FTC is updating their Testimonial and Endorsement guidelines.
It's mostly targetted to impact bizopp/diet.

metalhead · 08-05-2009, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmcp123

Yeah. The FTC is updating their Testimonial and Endorsement guidelines.
It's mostly targetted to impact bizopp/diet.

So how do we bypass this? Have friends write testimonials?

Can people still show fake account screenshots? (hey look I make $1,000 in Adsense per day, see???)

What about money making products, like "how to make $1,000 per day selling affiliate products" type of ebooks. Are those still ok? (that's like most of Clickbank's products anyway)

mattfca · 08-05-2009, 02:13 PM

just go to FTC website. Read the guidelines, and do whatever you think isn't against the rules (to much).

become a baller

then worry about it

xmcp123 · 08-05-2009, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalhead

So how do we bypass this? Have friends write testimonials?

Can people still show fake account screenshots? (hey look I make $1,000 in Adsense per day, see???)

What about money making products, like "how to make $1,000 per day selling affiliate products" type of ebooks. Are those still ok? (that's like most of Clickbank's products anyway)

Nope.

metalhead · 08-05-2009, 02:38 PM

Nope @ all of them?

How are CB vendors still in business then?

Is there a link somewhere to the official rules about this?

Does it mean all these scam forex robot people can't sell their products anymore? What is the definition of "bizop"?

barman · 08-05-2009, 03:18 PM

what this really means is that everyone on Clickbank photoshop's their earnings.

erect · 08-05-2009, 03:34 PM

Here are the ones that went into effect in 1980

Here is a document from a lawyer sent out to his clients informing them of how the new guidelines would affect the way they advertise. I found this to be pretty damn informative and in very layman's terms with examples and such.

And yes, it looks like a testimonial killer

metalhead · 08-05-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by barman

what this really means is that everyone on Clickbank photoshop's their earnings.

hehe.

So how are people going to sell things anymore?

Can you still sell an ebook on "how to make money" as long as you don't have fake testimonials or photoshopped earning statements?

metalhead · 08-05-2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erect

Here are the ones that went into effect in 1980

Here is a document from a lawyer sent out to his clients informing them of how the new guidelines would affect the way they advertise. I found this to be pretty damn informative and in very layman's terms with examples and such.

And yes, it looks like a testimonial killer

Thanks. I'm reading that lawyer one now.

nat3r · 08-05-2009, 04:09 PM

grow up

leave the Flog behind, be creative and stop following in everybodys footsteps

do a review page, or a straight up "heres why you should buy this" landing page instead of lying to the customer

i understand the flog, i just hate when people start to worship it, like this guy.

mattfca · 08-05-2009, 04:27 PM

Why would you tell OP to do a review page instead of a flog because its "following everybodies footsteps"? review pages are just as common, and they are all lies as well.

use whatever works.

GoogleSearchSux · 08-05-2009, 04:42 PM

plus a farticle is much better

nat3r · 08-05-2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattfca

Why would you tell OP to do a review page instead of a flog because its "following everybodies footsteps"? review pages are just as common, and they are all lies as well.

use whatever works.

flogs are getting slapped left and right

dpalat · 08-05-2009, 05:21 PM

I automatically ignore all screenshots, most of them are fake...

gerMAN · 08-05-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dpalat

I automatically ignore all screenshots, most of them are fake...

damn.you're smart.

mattfca · 08-05-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nat3r

flogs are getting slapped left and right

Lol. Good thing reviews aren't right?

And I didnt know google was the only way of getting traffic!

accho18 · 08-05-2009, 11:19 PM

In your case I would consider the factors of toasted gerbil garments located within the western regions of male nourished tubes fornicating in absence of placid hammers amongst zebra handled paste.

My advice...don't cheat your way out of make rounds of wing chucks superfluous throughout the flamingo depression in the innermost regions of your breaded dragons pulsating prostate gland.

crossfittn · 08-05-2009, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accho18

In your case I would consider the factors of toasted gerbil garments located within the western regions of male nourished tubes fornicating in absence of placid hammers amongst zebra handled paste.

My advice...don't cheat your way out of make rounds of wing chucks superfluous throughout the flamingo depression in the innermost regions of your breaded dragons pulsating prostate gland.

FUCK

Volume10 · 08-05-2009, 11:57 PM

dude - I think who ever taught you the engrish played a very bad trick on you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by accho18

In your case I would consider the factors of toasted gerbil garments located within the western regions of male nourished tubes fornicating in absence of placid hammers amongst zebra handled paste.

My advice...don't cheat your way out of make rounds of wing chucks superfluous throughout the flamingo depression in the innermost regions of your breaded dragons pulsating prostate gland.

metalhead · 08-06-2009, 12:16 AM

What is a "flog"?

Volume10 · 08-06-2009, 12:27 AM

i think he was the one that actually started teh flogs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nat3r

grow up

leave the Flog behind, be creative and stop following in everybodys footsteps

do a review page, or a straight up "heres why you should buy this" landing page instead of lying to the customer

i understand the flog, i just hate when people start to worship it, like this guy.

zimok · 08-06-2009, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalhead

What is a "flog"?

Fake+Blog=Flog

Bombastic · 08-06-2009, 07:42 AM

I don't think fake testimonials can ever be killed. It's just a matter of toeing the line and not promising anything too rediculous. You'll have to find creative ways to make the truth sound way more exciting than it is.

metalhead · 08-07-2009, 01:17 PM

How come most of the CB products still use testimonials and crazy screenshots, then?

I have written an ebook I'd like to sell but I don't want to get in trouble for promising to make $1,000 per day with 5 minutes of work.

xmcp123 · 08-07-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalhead

How come most of the CB products still use testimonials and crazy screenshots, then?

I have written an ebook I'd like to sell but I don't want to get in trouble for promising to make $1,000 per day with 5 minutes of work.

Because the guidelines are still a work in progress. They were set to be released 100% this summer sometime, so time is winding down.

Search Results: Testimonials

metalhead · 08-07-2009, 02:22 PM

Will CB and the other affiliate companies provide the new guidelines to vendors once they are established?

xmcp123 · 08-07-2009, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalhead

Will CB and the other affiliate companies provide the new guidelines to vendors once they are established?

Dude, it's the law. It's open to interpretation. People will think their company is following it, and sometimes the FTC will *ahem* disagree.

But read the guidelines. I gave you a link that has literally EVERYTHING that is publicly available on it. Read. Don't ask. Read.

mailinatorm2 · 08-10-2009, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accho18

In your case I would consider the factors of toasted gerbil garments located within the western regions of male nourished tubes fornicating in absence of placid hammers amongst zebra handled paste.

My advice...don't cheat your way out of make rounds of wing chucks superfluous throughout the flamingo depression in the innermost regions of your breaded dragons pulsating prostate gland.

wtf dude? What's wrong with u ?

Sumit's engRish is waaaaay better!

crossfittn · 08-10-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mailinatorm2

wtf dude? What's wrong with u ?

Sumit's engRish is waaaaay better!

i heard about you

conjamuk · 08-10-2009, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accho18

In your case I would consider the factors of toasted gerbil garments located within the western regions of male nourished tubes fornicating in absence of placid hammers amongst zebra handled paste.

My advice...don't cheat your way out of make rounds of wing chucks superfluous throughout the flamingo depression in the innermost regions of your breaded dragons pulsating prostate gland.

Wat?

rohitiyer11 · 08-10-2009, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conjamuk

Wat?

He's probably japanese

dickarmy · 08-11-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xmcp123

Dude, it's the law. People will think their company is following it, and sometimes the FTC will *ahem* disagree.

Definitely. But what most affiliates don't realize is that ultimately they have the same level of liability with regards to making claims. The enforcement hasn't caught up to the FTC rules yet but it's bound to happen.

xmcp123 · 08-12-2009, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dickarmy

Definitely. But what most affiliates don't realize is that ultimately they have the same level of liability with regards to making claims. The enforcement hasn't caught up to the FTC rules yet but it's bound to happen.

I think it's going to be tricky. If someone has a legitimate, first hand experience and posts something saying as much, it's solidly within the first amendment. The idea that someone would have to worry about legal liability for posting their opinions and direct experience is pretty foreign to me, and I think would be pretty quickly struck down.

But at the same time, the environment we exist within now is obviously not going to keep going. The future of it all I think will be determined by how broadly the FTC chooses to interpret their own guidelines, and how aggressively they decide to pursue them. If they step over the first amendment and a court rules as such...it only takes one court case to set a precedent that strips them of a lot of their power in this.

We're all (us and the FTC) going to be towing a fine line. We'll just have to see who crosses it.

monkeyman · 08-12-2009, 09:29 AM

How about cloaking FTC? anyone..? Or is it too risky?

Quote:

Originally Posted by accho18

In your case I would consider the factors of toasted gerbil garments located within the western regions of male nourished tubes fornicating in absence of placid hammers amongst zebra handled paste.

My advice...don't cheat your way out of make rounds of wing chucks superfluous throughout the flamingo depression in the innermost regions of your breaded dragons pulsating prostate gland.

You just gave me my new signature. Thanks...

xentech · 08-12-2009, 10:29 AM

I've never seen such a display of wetness.

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metalhead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 346 iTrader: 73 / 100%	Nope @ all of them? How are CB vendors still in business then? Is there a link somewhere to the official rules about this? Does it mean all these scam forex robot people can't sell their products anymore? What is the definition of "bizop"? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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erect Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orbiting condo Posts: 3,188 iTrader: 15 / 94%	Here are the ones that went into effect in 1980 Here is a document from a lawyer sent out to his clients informing them of how the new guidelines would affect the way they advertise. I found this to be pretty damn informative and in very layman's terms with examples and such. And yes, it looks like a testimonial killer Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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mattfca Unbanned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vancouva Posts: 1,609 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Why would you tell OP to do a review page instead of a flog because its "following everybodies footsteps"? review pages are just as common, and they are all lies as well. use whatever works. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ mattf.ca

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metalhead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 346 iTrader: 73 / 100%	How come most of the CB products still use testimonials and crazy screenshots, then? I have written an ebook I'd like to sell but I don't want to get in trouble for promising to make $1,000 per day with 5 minutes of work. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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