allco

Crazy question....

The big rumour, as we all know, that google will throw a fresh site into the sandbox if it grows too quickly right off the bat.

But is G determining the sites "newness" by the whois records when the domain was registered, or by the time that G itself became aware of the site and indexed it?

I have a new project, which I'm going to launch in another week. I regged the domain in February, 2009. And all that time, just had it parked with a blank white coming soon page, with no links to it of course (so it's not indexed by G obviously) Just wondering if when I launch it, and go on a backlinking spree... will goog view it as growing to fast, or view it as a 1 year old site (?)

Thanks for any response.

AllBizNiz

It is by the domain age itself. I believe it also checks the renewal. If you've registered a domain for 5 years, more than likely it's not a spammy site.

allco

cool thanks for the info!

Skippy McGee

G is an ICANN-accredited registrar and therefore has access to all the domain information.

*niko*

Uh, there is something that no one has mentioned.

Even if the domain age is long, Google also cares about percentage increases.

For example if for the last 11 months you were getting 1 link a month, and suddenly you have 324123423 of them it seems spammy. Think about normal website advancement, traffic comes to the site and in theory the more robust the site, the more traffic.

So in essence real traffic looks like a exponential curve mainly because of search engine indexing.

Yours will look like a spike.

I learned this from my adult affiliate marketing that a lot of shady shit takes place. It might work, but you will get a google slap if you over do it.

bprimeelite

Google looks at various things such as how long have you had the domain register, how long ago was it first cached, etc. There isn't just one factor and they probably know more about it than you think.

allco

Thanks for the additional replies.

It does make sense they'd factor in percentage increases.

With new sites I'm trying to stick to the formula of:

1) Submit to directories (as this is probably the 1st thing an average new website owner would do when launching their site)

2) Set up social pages (twitter, facebook etc.) as that's the hip thing to do

3) Social bookmarks

4) Link wheels

5) other forms of traffic / links

This seems like a natural "trackable" process... if G is trying to figure out if a site is real / natural or not...


But... there's one element I'm not sure how google would handle for quick growth, is...

If one was to spend a ton of money on "offline" advertising (TV, newspapers etc.) or do a cross promotional offline venture with another biz (events, coupons etc.)... which would lead to people either typing your domain name into a search engine (doesn't have to be google), or direct typed in (the browser) traffic... which could lead to lots of back-links fast too...

I guess they have some way to factor this in too.

AllBizNiz

Just make sure your backlinks look natural. I made a mistake of using the same keyword for many backlinks. You should rotate your keywords.

*niko*

Aha, then you will be fine until you hit step 4. Everything else is natural link building. I thought you were referencing some blackhat programs that can build 1,000,000 links on one day and you keep doing that for days on end.

I think I need to realize that normal affiliate marketing is a lot more tame than adult marketing where people go kind of crazy.