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Old 08-21-2010, 05:08 AM   #101 (permalink)
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PR4-5 Permanent or monthly links on my homepages, with or without text. You want it! --he did a 3X Bump.

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Old 08-21-2010, 05:24 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Hi guys, sorry for bumping in Again in this Thread. Just got a Fucking DP'r accepting he is a DP member right now. Out of 7 posts he have made in total 3 were asking for a "Free review copy". He brought 2 SEO services in WF and now he is reselling them in WF itself. Ban him..! I hate to see such a looser.

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Old 08-21-2010, 09:26 AM   #104 (permalink)
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:38 AM   #105 (permalink)
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If you can't communicate with someone, then you can't do business with them. If they can barely type readable English, then there will be a ton of miscommunication. This is bad for the client because they wasted time and/or money. It's bad for the seller because they will have a very high rate of bad reviews, even if they might be a great service provider.

Now, as for people who don't have English as their native language - I know a ton of people who can write legibly here, but just don't want too. But, like the example of the person I provided - they just don't want to.

If the seller has bad English skills, get someone to proofread at least the first post where they are listing their services.
I second that.. I hate do deal with people from the general area's of India and Filipinos or wherever the fuck they are from. Due to the fact of really poor communication skills. Its just not that the English is bad, they lie about it. When you then ask is everything clear, do you understand and the answer is yes and they do something else
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Banned them who used fucking 'SEO' word as username.

What about false reviewers?
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2 Positive reviews and whats fact? i just checking that list myself , currently on 26th and cant make a single profile out of 26.. huh..?
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I second that.. I hate do deal with people from the general area's of India and Filipinos or wherever the fuck they are from. Due to the fact of really poor communication skills. Its just not that the English is bad, they lie about it. When you then ask is everything clear, do you understand and the answer is yes and they do something else
Hang on hang on. Honestly, its nothing to do with being from India or phillipines or from china for that matter. The bottomline is these guys are idiots and they are selling crap.

just want to clarify, I am a indian myself but i dont sell any of those services.

Rather than targetting indians or filipinos, lets stick to the point that any DP dumbass selling his crap in BST with self promotion should be watched out for.

Dont be picky over his/her race or where he is from.
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Banned them who used fucking 'SEO' word as username.

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2 Positive reviews and whats fact? i just checking that list myself , currently on 26th and cant make a single profile out of 26.. huh..?

http://www.wickedfire.com/members/yanivseo.html - yaniveso is building up his post count with a bunch of 2 or 3 words in the BST.. perma bann this bitch worthless.
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Hang on hang on. Honestly, its nothing to do with being from India or phillipines or from china for that matter. The bottomline is these guys are idiots and they are selling crap.

just want to clarify, I am a indian myself but i dont sell any of those services.

Rather than targetting indians or filipinos, lets stick to the point that any DP dumbass selling his crap in BST with self promotion should be watched out for.

Dont be picky over his/her race or where he is from.

I agree, all of my VA's are Indian and Philos and they are awesome guys.
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Hang on hang on. Honestly, its nothing to do with being from India or phillipines or from china for that matter. The bottomline is these guys are idiots and they are selling crap.

just want to clarify, I am a indian myself but i dont sell any of those services.

Rather than targetting indians or filipinos, lets stick to the point that any DP dumbass selling his crap in BST with self promotion should be watched out for.

Dont be picky over his/her race or where he is from.
Okey let's rephrase,, people with poor language skills. Just that the major part of outsourcing world are from under developed countries they were just examples.
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Banned them who used fucking 'SEO' word as username.

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This is how a free market is meant to work. Everyone being on the lookout for each other and the community instead of relying on rules enforcement.

Starting this thread and making community quality a community effort may be the answer we needed.
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Starting this thread (not a 100 post count filter) may be the answer we needed.
Especially when we can point a vendor to this thread to let them know of their impending doom. It may be the impetus they need to shape up.
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This is how a free market is meant to work. Everyone being on the lookout for each other and the community instead of relying on rules enforcement.

Starting this thread and making community quality a community effort may be the answer we needed.
As long as people keep it up.

Also, Erect, you're only a BST mod, right? What should we do with posts from the other sections?
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:21 PM   #118 (permalink)
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As someone who does freelance writing I can see an elite marketplace being a draw, both for buyers and sellers. I don't post WTS threads simply because I have enough clients through recommendations, although when I was starting out I did reply to advertisements – but not here - and I may start doing that again if work ever dries ip. On the one occasion that I did post a WTT thread (on, cough, another forum) I got a number of responses of which only one was on point and offering about a third of what I was getting. It was bartering, which may have meant that the post got a worse response than more usual selling or buying posts.

This query was also slightly off topic, as I did say that I specialise in financial content when he was looking for internet marketing. That’s probably an issue with that forum, as everyone’s expected to be a generalist. Why you’d want someone who writes about investments to write about link building beats me, but that’s the way it is on, ahem, another forum.

If there were a forum where I did not have to manage the expectations of web masters who were more used to the "good luck bros" pricing structure, I would think about participating.

Now I may be bluffing from my cubicle in Bangalore, but I would be amazed if other writers are not thinking the same thing. One of the things that you find as a writer, if you're specialised and half decent (or have another job) is that quite quickly you move away from forums and instead rely on repeat work, recommendations and people finding you. This will always I happen, I expect, particularly as the need for decent content has exploded with the web. However Wicked Fire could capture a few of these writers and other service providers for a while before they get harder to reach.

I'd also make a couple of other points:

1. Tightening up would work, but it could perhaps be better ratcheted up rather than pushed in through one big bang as it could kill the forums stone dead. So move to 20 posts immediately, then 30 the next month, 40 the month after that. This could then mean that if the market does slow then the tightening up can slow as well.

2. A stickied post about how reviews should work and what sort of reviewer you should not waste your time with could help. Reviews are an excellent way to qualify the service providers, and are another way of differentiating Wicked Fire.

3. Perhaps we need reviews of the reviews. So if you get a bad service from someone with decent reviews then call out the reviewers. That may be self interested, as I also sell popcorn as well as financial content writing.
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Starting this thread and making community quality a community effort may be the answer we needed.
Definitely this.

I also like the 100 post minimum rule - even dp has a min. Post rule for their bst section, I think we can do better here.
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I have since corrected my review of this service and reported that the topic be closed. I mistakenly posted a positive review thinking that the confirmation process should have been straight forward. From this point forward, I will not make such a mistake, nor will I grant an iTrader for services I did not exchange money or trades in exchange for services.

Ask Erect about the scammers that I have helped get removed and close topics. This nonsense needs to end on this great forum. It should be noted that I am not the only one that has made a mistake like this, there are a couple of members participating in this topic that are equally guilty. It's not the point, we need to work together to clean out the garbage.
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It happens. I fucked up on a review once, three separate PR checkers told me the url PR was 7 when it was actually the domain URL. The fact that it was still a super authority link lessened my shame somewhat, but still...


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Yeah, it's happened to me too. I couldn't really come up with a good explanation as to why a writer that had lots of excellent reviews came up so short. It might have something to do with writers running out of time and outsourcing their work? I'm not sure.
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Its not just the "seo links" section, the "content" one is even worse. I bought articles from 3 different sellers after they have recieved rave reviews from other "members" only to find they where utter crap. Rant over
This has happened to me as well. One thing to understand is that sometimes, a "writer" will outsource your job to another writer to get the job done.

Now that being said, it is the vendor's responsibility to check the work of his/her writers, and if they get crap from their writers they need to intervene.

If you're contracting with a writer to benefit from that writer's particular talents, ensure (as best you can) that the writer himself is doing the work (the reputable ones will disclose).

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Something just feels wrong about this:
2 yr old adwords account with $1700 balance up for sale!!

If you have a client that is selling their website, surely they'd handle getting rid of an Adwords account as part of the business assets. Why would an outside party be getting rid of it?

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mattseh, not bad script.. can you make to check users status? lol some were already banned.. but did catch a few new ones!

I cleaned your "results" list to make it easier for erects review:

[S] Youtube, Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo Accounts - double poster and maybe fake account bump?

Gmails for Sale - sneaky bumper

Free SEO Hosting. Just Pay Per IP C-Class!! - sneaky bumper warning only.

http://www.wickedfire.com/sell-buy-t...tml#post961060 - 2 bumper + 2 sneakys

(WTS) xrumer publicy viewable profile start $5 - muliple double bumper low IQ

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Charlie is ok. That thread got started in STS and moved to the BST.
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Auctionpus thread needs to be moved to BST section. Its a menace.


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Yeah I was kinda wondering about him too. It's just him posting in the thread. But there were posts at the beginning... idk

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