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Old 04-13-2007, 12:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Checkthisout WordPress MU

All the work I have done with Worpress and I have just learned about MU, I have not started using it yet, but from what I gather from the documentation on MU this is some serious shit!

Im thinking of all the time and trouble I could have saved in the last 6 to 8 months using it and it almost makes me sick, but in another light I am so syced about the time and troubles it should save me in the future.

Am I the only one out there that had no clue about this? Is this something new, because I am sure I would have learned about it earlier, or maybe not.

Do you use MU? What are your thoughts on the script?

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I am sort of confused about Wordpress-MU for operating multiple blogs. From what I gather, this is to be used for multiple blogs on a single domain, right? Like:
blog1.wordpressblogs.com
blog2.wordpressblogs.com
etc.


Can this be used on a single server to operate multiple but seperate domain blogs?

Thanks for bringing this up. I've had this lingering question to ask about this package.
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I am sort of confused about Wordpress-MU for operating multiple blogs. From what I gather, this is to be used for multiple blogs on a single domain, right? Like:
blog1.wordpressblogs.com
blog2.wordpressblogs.com
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Can this be used on a single server to operate multiple but seperate domain blogs?

Thanks for bringing this up. I've had this lingering question to ask about this package.
Exactly. Subdomains or directories.
It was a bitch the first few times to get set up.

I wanted to use it to better manage a good number of MFA sites, don't know about the compatibility with the content gens though.

Any knowledge on the subject anyone?
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I never heard of it but it sounds very interesting. I'm going to peek into it.
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Like I said I have not actually used MU I have it downloaded and am in the process of setting up some local shit to get a feel for her, but yes you can set up multiple blogs on one site basically using one install using directories or sub domains, which is tits, because say you have a site that covers a wide variety of sub niches like a sports site, you can seamlessly set up a series of blogs, or areas to your site and just make it look like one complete site, so covering in depth the NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL, tennis, motocross......... blah blah blah that you could not possible cover properly using just one install of WP properly you can set up an additional blog with each, without having to set up, install, theme, log in to, post to and the list goes on for each...

From what Ive read the other night this is the shit, the shit I have been loking for, but have been going about the wrong way, there are so many different applications that you could use WP MU for that the list is actually endless.

Think about it, set up a complete network of 100,000 Arbi sites with one install of WP, start a blog hosting site, create your own little network of content sites or blogs I mean the list goes on, If I am wrong or have the wrong impression of this script please stop me, because I actually lost sleep over this last night, and I am sure I will be up all night tonight, jotting down notes and coming up with ideas..

Heres a good example of WP MU in action,

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Shared hosting should point all your domains to subdomains
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Not sure I understand what you mean? If you set up some sort of blog hosting site you should have all user generated blogs set up on subdomains and not directories?

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jerxs, yes, you have it right. That is what it is intended for. It's definitely worth slapping on a dedicated box for a popular domain to make that domain even more popular.

Had you asked here for something like this, I would have pointed you right to this. Typically, the only way to have a large scale site like this would be to hire it out and spend thousands. When I discovered MU a few months ago, I couldn't believe it.

Since nobody has pointed a link to it and newbies apparently don't know how to "google," here it is: WordPress MU › Home
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You can use either sub domain or sub directory sites. I don't know what MU uses out of the box but a quick google came up with this forum post.

From the looks of it it'll be a pain in the ass to pull off if you don't run your own name servers.

I would use MU to break down a general niche into more targeted child niches
with sub domains/directories. You'll still have to use separate installs of MU for each general niche you were going after, but you might find it easier to upgrade and tweak a single install.
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Not sure I understand what you mean? If you set up some sort of blog hosting site you should have all user generated blogs set up on subdomains and not directories?

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I mean when I buy a domain, Example 1, it points it to a subdomain/directory of my main domain.

So it looks like this,

Example 1 --> www.maindomain.com/directory or example1.maindomain.com

Which means it is a breeze to set up MU as multiple MFA sites as you can set them up on multiple domains in subdomains.

My thinking is all fucked up, but I understand myself
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WordPress MU (WordPress MU › Home), or WordPressµ, is the multi-user version of the famous WordPress blogging application. It is ideal for people who want to set up a large network of blogs. Please see the WordPress MU site (WordPress MU › Home) for details.
WordPress MU is the underlying software that powers the WordPress.com (WordPress.com » Get a Free Blog Here) hosted blogging service. WordPress MU is also used by newspapers, magazines, blog networks, universities and large companies running corporate blogging systems behind firewalls.
Using the WordPress multi-user edition, you will be able offer your users an opportunity to sign up for a new blog. They will be able to securely manage their templates and settings without affecting any other users. You can have unlimited users with unlimited blogs, and users can have various roles (author, etc) on each others blogs.
A lot of usefull resources: WordPressMU « WordPress Codex


Installation instruction:

WordPress Multi User
--------------------

WordPress MU is a multi user version of WordPress.

If you're not comfortable editing PHP code, taking care of a complex
webserver and database system and being pro-active about following
developments of this project then run, don't walk, to
WordPress.com » Get a Free Blog Here and sign yourself and your friends up to free blogs.
It's easier in the long run and you'll save yourself a lot of pain
and angst.

Install
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1. Download and unzip the WordPress MU package, if you haven't already.
The unzipped files will be created in a directory named "wordpressmu"
followed by a version or "wpmu" followed by a date. For the sake of
convenience, rename this folder "wordpressmu" before continuing.
2. Create a database for WordPress MU on your web server, as well as a
MySQL user who has all privileges for accessing and modifying it.
3. Place the WordPress MU files in the desired location on your web server:
* If you want to integrate WordPress MU into the root of your
domain (e.g. http://example.com/), move or upload all contents of
the unzipped WordPress MU directory (but excluding the directory
itself) into the root directory of your web server.
* If you want to have your WordPress MU installation in its own
subdirectory on your web site (e.g. http://example.com/blogs/),
rename the directory wordpressmu to the name you'd like the
subdirectory to have and move or upload it to your web server.
For example if you want the WordPress MU installation in a
subdirectory called "blog", you should rename the directory called
"wordpressmu" to "blogs" and upload it to the root directory of your
web server.
4. Run the WordPress MU installation script by accessing index.php
in your favorite web browser.
* If you installed WordPress MU in the root directory, you should
visit: http://example.com/index.php
* If you installed WordPress MU in its own subdirectory called
blogs, for example, you should visit: http://example.com/blogs/index.php
(Adapted from Installing WordPress « WordPress Codex)

If you're upgrading, skip to the end of this document.

Apache
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Apache must be configured so that mod_rewrite works. Here are
instructions for Apache 2. Apache 1.3 is very similar.

1. Make sure a line like the following appears in your httpd.conf
LoadModule rewrite_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rewrite.so

2. In the <Directory> directive of your virtual host, look for this
line
"AllowOverride None"
and change it to
"AllowOverride FileInfo Options"

3. In the <VirtualHost> section of the config file for your host there
will be a line defining the hostname. You need to add the following
if you want virtual hosts to work properly:
"ServerAlias *.domain.tld"
Replace domain.tld with whatever your one is, and remove the quotes.


DNS
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If you want to host blogs of the form http://blog.domain.tld/ where
domain.tld is the domain name of your machine then you must add a
wildcard record to your DNS records.
This usually means adding a "*" hostname record pointing at your
webserver in your DNS configuration tool.
Matt has a more detailed explanation:
Photo Matt » Wildcard DNS and Sub Domains


PHP
===
1. Don't display error messages to the browser. This is almost always
turned off but sometimes when you're testing you turn this on and forget
to reset it.

2. If your PHP is compiled with memory limit checks, the default is 8MB
which is much too small. You should increase this to at least 32MB or 64MB
to avoid PHP out of memory errors. Look for "memory_limit" in your php.ini
file.

3. GLOBAL variables must be turned off. This is one of the first things
any security aware admin will do. These days the default is for it to
be off!

The easiest way of configuring it is via the .htaccess file that is
created during the install. If you haven't installed WPMU yet then edit
the file htaccess.dist in this directory and add these two lines at the
top:

php_flag register_globals 0
php_flag display_errors 0

This is NOT included in that file by default because it doesn't work on
all machines. If it doesn't work on your machine, you'll get a cryptic
"500 internal error" after you install WPMU. To remove the offending lines
just edit the file ".htaccess" in your install directory and you'll see
them at the top. Delete and save the file again.
Read here for how to enable this: PHP: How to change configuration settings - Manual

If you don't want to edit your .htaccess file then you need to change your
php.ini. It's beyond the scope of this README to know exactly where it is
on your machine, but if you're on a shared hosted server you probably
don't have access to it as it requires root or administrator privileges
to change.

If you do have root access, try "locate php.ini" or check in:

/etc/php4/apache2/php.ini
/usr/local/lib/php.ini

Once you have opened your php.ini, look for the sections related to
register_globals and display_errors. Make sure both are Off like so:

display_errors = Off
register_globals = Off

You'll have to restart Apache after you modify your php.ini for the
settings to be updated.

4. If you want to restrict blog signups, set the restrict domain email
setting in the admin.


UPGRADING
=========
Please see this page for instructions on upgrading your install:
UpgradingWpmu - WordPress MU Trac - Trac


Support Forum and Bug Reports
=============================
Please read DebuggingWpmu - WordPress MU Trac - Trac before
asking any questions. Without all the information required there
we'll just ask for it anyway or worse, your request will be ignored.

WordPress MU › WordPress MU Forums

Trac is our bug tracking system. Again, please read the above link
before submitting a bug report.
{1} Active Tickets - WordPress MU Trac - Trac

You can login to both sites using your wordpress.org username and
password.

WordPress MU › Home
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If you don't want to have the site incentively under example1.com you could always do domain forwarding to just use example1.com to point to realsite.com/exmaple1/
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WP MU is amazing! Normally, creating many WP blogs on a single domain generates significant overhead - in terms of disk space and server load. With WP MU you can probably create over 10,000 blogs on a single box!

And the fun don't end there! It's extimated most of the existing plugins work with MU. Also, a new type of plugin is supported that's automatically activated for each new blog.

You can hack the code to death, as with WP.

WP MU is really delightful! It gives automated SPAM a new meaning
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I use it in a few places, has certainly come in handy. I haven't used it to offer hosting mind you but more in situations where I am setting up networks of related blogs.
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So - just out of curiosity - why is it better to have a separate wordpress install for each topic, ala wpmu, leaving something like mycheeseyarticlesite.com/lawyers
vs just having a single wp install with a lawyers category and thus ending up with the same thing?
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You mean why not use one blog instead of many? If that's what you mean then the answer is simple: niche targeting

For example, it does not make sense mixing golf and internet marketing - better to have separate blogs.

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You mean why not use one blog instead of many? If that's what you mean then the answer is simple: niche targeting

For example, it does not make sense mixing golf and internet marketing - better to have separate blogs.
Right - I totally agree - I guess my question is more around the domain name. Since you will be using subdomains or subdirectories of a single domain, your domain name with a wmu won't be targeted.

So, if you want a niche about golf clubs, but the site domain name would be www.somethingabouteverything.com/golf-clubs
...would that be a big negative?

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You mean why not use one blog instead of many? If that's what you mean then the answer is simple: niche targeting

For example, it does not make sense mixing golf and internet marketing - better to have separate blogs.
Right - totally agree - I guess my question is more focused on the URL that you would end up with.

For example, if I used WMU to create a site about golf clubs, that would just be a subdomain or a subdirectory of my main site, so you would end up with something like...

somethingabouteverything.com/golf-clubs

...Would that be a big negative?

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I don't see why it would be a negative. There are a growing number webmasters that use WP MU, and I've seen a single domain contain many blogs that cover a whole range of topics.

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Right - totally agree - I guess my question is more focused on the URL that you would end up with.

For example, if I used WMU to create a site about golf clubs, that would just be a subdomain or a subdirectory of my main site, so you would end up with something like...

somethingabouteverything.com/golf-clubs

...Would that be a big negative?

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Im looking seriously into Wordpress MU now, want to give it a try really soon.
After reading through the install instructions it sounds to me like you need server admin access to set this up, am I right?
So this can't actually be set up on a regular hosting account?

I'm also trying to look for guides/help online but have come up with next to nothing, looks like its going to have to be complete trial and error to get this working.

My main question right now is, can WPMU run blogs on seperate domains, with no subdomains at all? Im not interested in using subdomains and cant find any documentation that says subdomains dont have to be used with WPMU.
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I use wp mu and it works great. I use the subdomains for each blog. That way the se's treat each one like its own domain.

No you can't really have it on separate domains. Unless you just use the folders then on the domain you want it on use php to bring it in. I have a script that generates on one domain and then I use <?php @require_once "http://www.domain.com/blog1/"?>
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