Blogger and 5 Star Afilliate Programs Bashing WF members - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

Blastyourass · 05-17-2007, 03:38 PM

First off I know my approach does offend some people and I am willing to take whatever shit is thrown at me because I just don't care but I thought I'd bring this thread The Numskull Underbelly of Affiliate Marketing at Affiliate Tip Blog by Shawn Collins to WF's attention.

I guess they think we are a bunch of fuck heads here? Wait till I go to the ASE and show him what a fuck head I am.

Shawn Collins · 05-17-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Blastyourass

I guess they think we are a bunch of fuck heads here?

Not at all. I respect Jon and many folks here. My post was about the reckless and misguided content on your blog.

engaged · 05-17-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Collins

Not at all. I respect Jon and many folks here. My post was about the reckless and misguided content on your blog.

You must be so proud dude, you got a nice, young kid suspended from college. You are a hero buddy, thank fucking god for you.

skillfull · 05-17-2007, 03:52 PM

I Must admit that cheating affiliates programs isn't the way to go Blast...

kaveman · 05-17-2007, 03:53 PM

haha, blastyourass, looks like your ass is on blast foo

pfgannon · 05-17-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by engaged

You must be so proud dude, you got a nice, young kid suspended from college. You are a hero buddy, thank fucking god for you.

I left a comment, but forgot to bring up what engaged brought up.
Mind your own business. Its not your place to get kids suspended from school. Get over your fuckin self.

aelusive · 05-17-2007, 03:55 PM

It is amazing how blogging is changing our society. To me, it seems like the 80's were yesterday, but can you imagine anything like this happening then? Really makes you think. It is a double-edged sword.

Deliguy · 05-17-2007, 03:58 PM

btw this thread has a misleading title, i really don't think he was bashing on wickedfire.

Anyways!

Quote From Your Blog

Quote:

Same scam. Back then, it was some smart kid that was going to Worcester Polytechnic Institute. Well, not so smart, because I caught him. I went to the administration at his school with the evidence I’d compiled.
The long and short - he was ultimately suspended from college for a semester for his handy work. Mom and dad must have been so proud.

Shawn, are you fuckin serious? You got a kid suspended from college 'cus you didn't like how he was making his tuition online?
Well fuck you,
you pretentious prick.

Blastyourass · 05-17-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Collins

Not at all. I respect Jon and many folks here. My post was about the reckless and misguided content on your blog.

I just left a comment on your blog Shawn. So check it plz.

Have you ever heard of the FIRST AMMENDMANT. You know the right to free speech? Well I live by that and I encourage it 100% and that's why I am here and not in the other forums that remind of being like a FUCKEN CHURCH!

If a post about making money is legit or reckless then I will label it appropriately in my comments to copy methods at your own risk. But I iwll not take it down for the sake that it's misguided info.

What do you guys think?

Miguel · 05-17-2007, 04:02 PM

now explain to me how adding the offer with the incentive as a torrent a problem?

He mentions that people should use hacked software, which ok honestly thats not smart BYA, but how about some crappy little peice of software you make that will change your screen to something that will make it look like your working if you feel someone coming towards you when your looking at NSFW stuff at work or some other dumb thing like that.

BTW I'm sure most adult programs wouldn't mind you using their 1-2 min sample vidz this way either as long as its bringing in sign-ups.

The advice was sound advice, now part of the method ( a small part ) was not a good idea, but the rest sounds pretty good to me if you ask your rep or affiliate program if it's ok.

Blastyourass · 05-17-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kaveman

haha, blastyourass, looks like your ass is on blast foo

i love it man!

Blastyourass · 05-17-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skillfull

I Must admit that cheating affiliates programs isn't the way to go Blast...

I don't do that in any way and I don't have the brain to follow some scripts and php's and blah..blah....to cheat those guys from anything.

Fuck I can't even do html man.

I may curse, I may be an ass, but I do not steal or cheat!

Jon · 05-17-2007, 04:08 PM

I'm not even getting involved in this one.. too much drama in one week for me.

skillfull · 05-17-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

now explain to me how adding the offer with the incentive as a torrent a problem?

He mentions that people should use hacked software, which ok honestly thats not smart BYA, but how about some crappy little peice of software you make that will change your screen to something that will make it look like your working if you feel someone coming towards you when your looking at NSFW stuff at work or some other dumb thing like that.

BTW I'm sure most adult programs wouldn't mind you using their 1-2 min sample vidz this way either as long as its bringing in sign-ups.

The advice was sound advice, now part of the method ( a small part ) was not a good idea, but the rest sounds pretty good to me if you ask your rep or affiliate program if it's ok.

I would be more than pissed if you use any of my content without my writed permission. That kind of attitude can bring you in court, you don't want to risk your business for a couple more sign-up. My call on that is do it to promote your own stuff with your own material, never scam anybody...

springer · 05-17-2007, 04:13 PM

I have to agree with Engaged and Deliguy... you can't possibly be proud of being a tattle-tale... or can you? Were you the kid that sat in the front of the room and always said, "Teacher, teacher, he's got gum!"?

I went to school in the 60's and 70's and we took guys like you out behind the building after school and taught them why it was so important to keep their opinions to themselves.

If the proudest moment of your life was wrecking that guys college career, shame on you! You are the kind of "moral police" the left-wing liberals would like us all to be. Spy and report on your neighbors, friends and family. It'll all be for the greater good.

I don't know you Shawn Collins. Never heard of you before today, but I know I do not like you... not one little bit and I wouldn't piss on you to put you out if you were on fire. I feel that strongly already!

A lot of us here don't agree with BYA and his ideas and opinions but, he's one of us... like our retarded little brother, we can pick on him all we want but woe the stupid outsider who believes THEY can get away with it!

Like the commenter on your blog said, are you ready to meet 250 of us at ASE? Well, are you, punk?

Miguel · 05-17-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skillfull

I would be more than pissed if you use any of my content without my writed permission. That kind of attitude can bring you in court, you don't want to risk your business for a couple more sign-up. My call on that is do it to promote your own stuff with your own material, never scam anybody...

Where did I anywhere in my post recommend doing anything without permission?

pfgannon · 05-17-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by springer

I have to agree with Engaged and Deliguy... you can't possibly be proud of being a tattle-tale... or can you? Were you the kid that sat in the front of the room and always said, "Teacher, teacher, he's got gum!"?

I went to school in the 60's and 70's and we took guys like you out behind the building after school and taught them why it was so important to keep their opinions to themselves.

If the proudest moment of your life was wrecking that guys college career, shame on you! You are the kind of "moral police" the left-wing liberals would like us all to be. Spy and report on your neighbors, friends and family. It'll all be for the greater good.

I don't know you Shawn Collins. Never heard of you before today, but I know I do not like you... not one little bit and I wouldn't piss on you to put you out if you were on fire. I feel that strongly already!

A lot of us here don't agree with BYA and his ideas and opinions but, he's one of us... like our retarded little brother, we can pick on him all we want but woe the stupid outsider who believes THEY can get away with it!

Like the commenter on your blog said, are you ready to meet 250 of us at ASE? Well, are you, punk?

Hah best post in this thread yet.

LemonAden · 05-17-2007, 04:25 PM

I have always respected Shawn since i found DP. But i agree with the rest of all y'all, thats just mean

yoink*gasp* · 05-17-2007, 04:26 PM

Shawn, you sound like you are a competent and intelligent marketer, so I'm not going to harp on your ideas or your methods. However, getting some college kid suspended is a very pathetic and low thing to do.

You are probably the kind of person that would complain that your burger and fries are taking longer than you want to wait, right?

I feel sorry for you.

Squirrelinabox · 05-17-2007, 04:31 PM

Thanks Shawn Collins for attempting to slow the fraud out there. Gotta love how everybody here jumps on the "hey get off your high horse" bandwagon. Um... if somebody is committing fraud, they should be stopped. This "kid" that was suspended from college was likely ripping both affiliates and "customers" off. Why shouldn't he be turned in if found out?

Obviously I don't know the whole story, but neither do any of you. I'm sick and tired of the seemingly endless attempts at fraud and I'm glad every time a person responsible for some of it is caught.

engaged · 05-17-2007, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrelinabox

Thanks Shawn Collins for attempting to slow the fraud out there. Gotta love how everybody here jumps on the "hey get off your high horse" bandwagon. Um... if somebody is committing fraud, they should be stopped. This "kid" that was suspended from college was likely ripping both affiliates and "customers" off. Why shouldn't he be turned in if found out?

Obviously I don't know the whole story, but neither do any of you. I'm sick and tired of the seemingly endless attempts at fraud and I'm glad every time a person responsible for some of it is caught.

woah bro, if you use incentivized offered and torrent porn or something, whatever... torrenting illegal software or what not, well not cool... getting someone suspended from college, even less cool.

i bet if he emailed the dude and raised some concerns the problem would have been resolved. sometimes going out of your way to be a giant prick is not cool.

Deliguy · 05-17-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrelinabox

Thanks Shawn Collins for attempting to slow the fraud out there. Gotta love how everybody here jumps on the "hey get off your high horse" bandwagon. Um... if somebody is committing fraud, they should be stopped. This "kid" that was suspended from college was likely ripping both affiliates and "customers" off. Why shouldn't he be turned in if found out?

Obviously I don't know the whole story, but neither do any of you. I'm sick and tired of the seemingly endless attempts at fraud and I'm glad every time a person responsible for some of it is caught.

Kids fuck up all the time, especially if they're broke ass college students. If one is affecting you and you get the urge to be a nark about it target the law, parents, the kid themselves. but NEVER target their education. That makes you the scumbag. A lot of us made mistakes in college trying to get by. Imagine if some asshole online vigilante came in and got you kicked out of school. I don't care who you are, a kids education isn't anything to fuck with.

springer · 05-17-2007, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrelinabox

Thanks Shawn Collins for attempting to slow the fraud out there. Gotta love how everybody here jumps on the "hey get off your high horse" bandwagon. Um... if somebody is committing fraud, they should be stopped. This "kid" that was suspended from college was likely ripping both affiliates and "customers" off. Why shouldn't he be turned in if found out?

Obviously I don't know the whole story, but neither do any of you. I'm sick and tired of the seemingly endless attempts at fraud and I'm glad every time a person responsible for some of it is caught.

I think we do know the whole story... as it relates to this thread. We've read BYAs comment here, seen his blog and now we've seen little Shawns comments about BYAs life here, his blog and Shawns rat tendencies. He self admitted them.

I don't advocate out and out fraud, either. But, getting caught and being ratted out are two entirely different things.

A rat is worse than the person commiting the fraud. At least with someone commiting fraud, when they're caught, it stops. A rat lives on to rat out others and YOU might be next.

Rats thrive on outing people... sometimes innocent people... whose lives and careers are irreperably damaged. Yet the rats life and career goes on. That's the part that bothers me about the do-gooders.

If it doesn't directly effect you, keep your fucking mouth shut!! If someone is doing something wrong, eventually they'll get caught. No need to speed it up.

Voodooman · 05-17-2007, 04:45 PM

I don't have a problem with the dude getting busted for his fraud. Great, Shawn disabled his aff account. Hell, even freeze his earnings.

But to go out of his way to get the kid booted from college, that was a low blow. You could of changed that kid's life forever. You don't play with shit like that. Then you go around boasting about it. Like its your badge of high morals. Doesn't sound to good to me.

I've been in business for quite some time. I've had people send me e-mails threating to kill me for actions of no fault of my own. Yet, I didn't go and call the FEDs on them.

Again, I understand what you did. And some of it was ok, by my book. But you went a little too far. And you shouldn't really be boasting about it.

Shawn Collins · 05-17-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Deliguy

You got a kid suspended from college 'cus you didn't like how he was making his tuition online?

No, I got him suspended from college, because he was stealing from my company.

For all of you who are outraged at the prospect of somebody getting punished for committing a crime, feel free to check in with me when you run your own business and somebody tries to fleece you.

Will it still be ok then?

BlondeTM · 05-17-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Blastyourass

Have you ever heard of the FIRST AMMENDMANT. You know the right to free speech? Well I live by that and I encourage it 100% and that's why I am here and not in the other forums that remind of being like a FUCKEN CHURCH!

What do you guys think?

I think he has as much of a right to free speech as you do. You are implying that he should be censored because he spoke out about something, specifically regarding WickedFire.

WickedFire isn't WussyFire. People here dish it out, so they should be able to take it. It's called.....free speech.

As far as the college kid, Deliguy is on the mark. College kids think they're invincible at that age. They don't see the wrong in half of what they do. Just like the UNL kids that were busted and strongarmed out of $3K
(Music Piracy Crackdown). Were they wrong...sure. But they didn't deserve maximum penalties first time out of the gate.

BlondeTM · 05-17-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Collins

No, I got him suspended from college, because he was stealing from my company.

For all of you who are outraged at the prospect of somebody getting punished for committing a crime, feel free to check in with me when you run your own business and somebody tries to fleece you.

Will it still be ok then?

I have a college kid. I own a business.

While my college kid is in college, I get to claim him on my taxes because he is still my responsibility as far as the tax men are concerned.

So, if you as a business person would have come to me ... I would have settled it up with you as far as financial losses. Then I would have handled it with him when he got home for the summer (or break).

But that's just me. I try not to throw the book at people on the first offense. Second time, yeah...my tolerance level as a nice girl is thin. Third time, fry em.

Voodooman · 05-17-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Collins

No, I got him suspended from college, because he was stealing from my company.

For all of you who are outraged at the prospect of somebody getting punished for committing a crime, feel free to check in with me when you run your own business and somebody tries to fleece you.

Will it still be ok then?

I call horseshit.

A crime is handled by the police. Not by college administrators.

You know what you did. You wanted to hurt that kid. Admit it.

springer · 05-17-2007, 05:01 PM

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No, I got him suspended from college, because he was stealing from my company

That's like getting someone fired from their job for fucking your wife. Completely unrelated and lower than whale shit.

You COULD have gone to the kid and told him the gig was up, could have threatened to go to his parents to get the money back or even gone to the police. But, you chose to go the holier-than-thou way and rat him out to his school. What could they do? Most schools have honor codes so they had to suspend him and you knew that's what'd happen.

Still wouldn't piss on you to put you out if you were on fire. Post THAT on your blog! Eat shit and die you asshole!

revbones · 05-17-2007, 05:03 PM

Still not cool. Was it your personal company or just an affiliate you had in common? If it was a company you personally owned that was paying him, you had even more options than most, and come off looking like an even bigger prick in my book. You could have frozen the account, and locked him out or done any number of things.

Going to his school was way beyond what was necessary. Why stop there? Why not call the feds in - oh wait it's probably not technically illegal, so take it to the next level and see if he goes to a specific church and tell his pastor, talk to his girlfriend's parents about what a scumbag you think he is, maybe picket outside his house? Maybe you could launch a new site with his picture on the front page where you could be a prick each and every day by posting new crap about him.

Nobody likes a rat and sooner or later they all get punked.

Shawn Collins · 05-17-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by engaged

i bet if he emailed the dude and raised some concerns the problem would have been resolved. sometimes going out of your way to be a giant prick is not cool.

You're wrong there. I closed his account and e-mailed him to let him know.

As far as I was concerned, that was the end of it.

But he was outraged that he wouldn't be getting the commissions for his fake leads and he went crazy on me.

So I looked into the matter further and realized exactly what he was doing.

At that point, things were escalated.

Concept · 05-17-2007, 05:05 PM

Go suck LemonAden's penis you worthless piece of shit.

springer · 05-17-2007, 05:08 PM

Time for some boobies to lighten things up.

They make me feel better, don't they you?

mkrongel · 05-17-2007, 05:13 PM

I see that Blast mentioned Copeac in his blog. If anyone generates traffic to Copeac using the method he describes, you will not get paid, and your account will be terminated.

We do not allow any scheme that is designed to cheat our advertisers just like we don't allow advertisers to cheat affiliates.

If you need to stoop to levels that low consider flipping burgers at Mickey D's instead of affiliate marketing, because what you're doing will eventually drive companies to compete with you instead of participating in affiliate marketing

Dar · 05-17-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Collins

No, I got him suspended from college, because he was stealing from my company.

For all of you who are outraged at the prospect of somebody getting punished for committing a crime, feel free to check in with me when you run your own business and somebody tries to fleece you.

Will it still be ok then?

I'm checking the fuck in with you! AND...................

YOU'RE STILL A FUCKING ASSHOLE.

I had my most profitable PPC camapaigns copied 100% by a "friend" of mine. He stole my webpage. Got a url that was pretty damn close to mine. Copied my ads 100% in google and bid on the exact same keywords.

Was I pissed? Hell yeah. Did I get him kicked out of college? NO. You act you're the first one on the internet to get ripped off. Grow up man. That's extremely fucked up.

FUCK YOU and FUCK Affiliate Summit.

I lose all respect for ANYONE that goes to Affiliate Summit. whoever goes supports this assholes lifestyle.

engaged · 05-17-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Collins

You're wrong there. I closed his account and e-mailed him to let him know.

As far as I was concerned, that was the end of it.

But he was outraged that he wouldn't be getting the commissions for his fake leads and he went crazy on me.

So I looked into the matter further and realized exactly what he was doing.

At that point, things were escalated.

define went crazy on you??? and you looked into things further, why was he cancelled in the first place then?

engaged · 05-17-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dar

I'm checking the fuck in with you! AND...................

YOU'RE STILL A FUCKING ASSHOLE.

I had my most profitable PPC camapaigns copied 100% by a "friend" of mine. He stole my webpage. Got a url that was pretty damn close to mine. Copied my ads 100% in google and bid on the exact same keywords.

Was I pissed? Hell yeah. Did I get him kicked out of college? NO. You act you're the first one on the internet to get ripped off. Grow up man. That's extremely fucked up.

FUCK YOU and FUCK Affiliate Summit.

I lose all respect for ANYONE that goes to Affiliate Summit. whoever goes supports this assholes lifestyle.

count me out of ASE

Blastyourass · 05-17-2007, 05:23 PM

I joined wickedfire 3 days ago. Started a blog 2 days ago. Start some threads to add a little fun around here and it's going perfect!

Anyways Shawn. Can you please explain why you call me a mongrel and in your text link is pointed to whois? Can you please at least link to my site out of respect because I have you.

Why are you bashing me for a post that is made on a blog that has 1st ammendmant written all over it?

What did I do wrong? Where did I cross any ethical boundaries as far as I'm concerned and to what I do in my profession?

If you truly look back through all my posts, 80% are to help in my own sarcastic stupid way. I have fun when I work and I don't report to anyone.

That's why I got into this business. This is me but in reality and I know how to handle myself when deemed appropriate Mr. Collins and I have not bashed you one time for calling me a mongrel.

YOU HURT ME FEELINGS THOUGH!

Because I curse like a fucken druken sailor and I allow free speech on my 2 day old blog doesn't mean I don't have integrity or ethics to be called a mongrel dude. But hey free speech man.

Hey no hard feelings and I didn't mean to cause a stink dude. As much as I did but I'll buy you a beer at the summit and we can have a laugh.

Concept · 05-17-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dar

I'm checking the fuck in with you! AND...................

YOU'RE STILL A FUCKING ASSHOLE.

I had my most profitable PPC camapaigns copied 100% by a "friend" of mine. He stole my webpage. Got a url that was pretty damn close to mine. Copied my ads 100% in google and bid on the exact same keywords.

Was I pissed? Hell yeah. Did I get him kicked out of college? NO. You act you're the first one on the internet to get ripped off. Grow up man. That's extremely fucked up.

FUCK YOU and FUCK Affiliate Summit.

I lose all respect for ANYONE that goes to Affiliate Summit. whoever goes supports this assholes lifestyle.

I agree. Fuck ASE. I'll cancel my flight.

I don't want to support some prick.

Deliguy · 05-17-2007, 05:25 PM

We demand a belated appology to the kid!

Miguel · 05-17-2007, 05:26 PM

Jeez man some of you guys need a few drinks and maybe a vicodin thrown in for propper chillage...

Voodooman · 05-17-2007, 05:28 PM

You know what. Let's allow Shawn to make things right. That's the fair thing to do. If Shawn could admit that what he did was wrong and apologize to the kid on this forum & on his blog (even though he might never see it - it's about principle). Then people should go to ASE.

If not, heck I live in Miami and was planning on going. But if Shawn can't be man enough to admit he was wrong and went to far, then I don't want anything to do with ASE.

Now that's fair.

stojan · 05-17-2007, 05:28 PM

People dont like rats man, you could have handled the situation at a more mature and professional level . You must have been proud of yourself after fucking up a college kids life, get a life

Shawn Collins · 05-17-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by engaged

define went crazy on you???

Threats.

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Originally Posted by engaged

and you looked into things further, why was he cancelled in the first place then?

He was cancelled in the first place, because he was converting nearly 100% of his traffic in very large volumes on an offer that converted around 15% for the biggest performers.

After not responded to my e-mails asking what he was doing, the account was shut.

He responded minutes later on the e-mail about his account being closed, and then HE wouldn't let the issue die.

trigatch4 · 05-17-2007, 05:29 PM

i love lamp

Concept · 05-17-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Collins

Threats.

He was cancelled in the first place, because he was converting nearly 100% of his traffic in very large volumes on an offer that converted around 15% for the biggest performers.

After not responded to my e-mails asking what he was doing, the account was shut.

He responded minutes later on the e-mail about his account being closed, and then HE wouldn't let the issue die.

Stop beating around the bush.

The community is waiting for an apology.

DaveEMG · 05-17-2007, 05:31 PM

I really wish my association with Wickedfire didn't mean I'd have to be associated with idiots like Blastyourass.

Blastyourass · 05-17-2007, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrongel

I see that Blast mentioned Copeac in his blog. If anyone generates traffic to Copeac using the method he describes, you will not get paid, and your account will be terminated.

We do not allow any scheme that is designed to cheat our advertisers just like we don't allow advertisers to cheat affiliates.

If you need to stoop to levels that low consider flipping burgers at Mickey D's instead of affiliate marketing, because what you're doing will eventually drive companies to compete with you instead of participating in affiliate marketing

OK, I know this guy who well he put a post on his blog in good will for free speech and he is now getting some heat for it. So.....................

Since you are here. If this guy I know is an affilliate and has this silly little godaddy quick blog that is totally not promoting anything on your network, 100% unrelated or doesn't mention Copeac. On his affiliate sites are in full compliance to your regs then is that ethical as far as having an associate represent you?

He's worried sick.

Should I tell my friend to immediately delete the post or kill himself NOW?

Thanks sir.

Concept · 05-17-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Voodooman

You know what. Let's allow Shawn to make things right. That's the fair thing to do. If Shawn could admit that what he did was wrong and apologize to the kid on this forum & on his blog (even though he might never see it - it's about principle). Then people should go to ASE.

If not, heck I live in Miami and was planning on going. But if Shawn can't be man enough to admit he was wrong and went to far, then I don't want anything to do with ASE.

Now that's fair.

Would anyone be interested in renting a banquet hall in Miami during the same week as ASE? Everyone knows you don't go to ASE for the speakers. It's all about networking. Even if we all pitched in some money to rent out a hall, it would still be a hell of a lot cheaper than a pass to ASE.

Shoot me a PM if you're interested, voodooman.

Blastyourass · 05-17-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveEMG

I really wish my association with Wickedfire didn't mean I'd have to be associated with idiots like Blastyourass.

me too man.

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aelusive aelusive Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Hawaiian Islands Posts: 91 iTrader: 2 / 100%	It is amazing how blogging is changing our society. To me, it seems like the 80's were yesterday, but can you imagine anything like this happening then? Really makes you think. It is a double-edged sword. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Goji Juice Home Business PR5 General Web Directory SAC Dir Pet Home Business

05-17-2007, 04:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
Miguel internets specialist Join Date: May 2007 Location: BayArea Posts: 436 iTrader: 1 / 100%	now explain to me how adding the offer with the incentive as a torrent a problem? He mentions that people should use hacked software, which ok honestly thats not smart BYA, but how about some crappy little peice of software you make that will change your screen to something that will make it look like your working if you feel someone coming towards you when your looking at NSFW stuff at work or some other dumb thing like that. BTW I'm sure most adult programs wouldn't mind you using their 1-2 min sample vidz this way either as long as its bringing in sign-ups. The advice was sound advice, now part of the method ( a small part ) was not a good idea, but the rest sounds pretty good to me if you ask your rep or affiliate program if it's ok. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ nothing to see here move along now.

05-17-2007, 04:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
springer I AM the shit! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 696 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I have to agree with Engaged and Deliguy... you can't possibly be proud of being a tattle-tale... or can you? Were you the kid that sat in the front of the room and always said, "Teacher, teacher, he's got gum!"? I went to school in the 60's and 70's and we took guys like you out behind the building after school and taught them why it was so important to keep their opinions to themselves. If the proudest moment of your life was wrecking that guys college career, shame on you! You are the kind of "moral police" the left-wing liberals would like us all to be. Spy and report on your neighbors, friends and family. It'll all be for the greater good. I don't know you Shawn Collins. Never heard of you before today, but I know I do not like you... not one little bit and I wouldn't piss on you to put you out if you were on fire. I feel that strongly already! A lot of us here don't agree with BYA and his ideas and opinions but, he's one of us... like our retarded little brother, we can pick on him all we want but woe the stupid outsider who believes THEY can get away with it! Like the commenter on your blog said, are you ready to meet 250 of us at ASE? Well, are you, punk? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a drunk. Alcoholics go to meetings!

05-17-2007, 04:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
LemonAden RockStar Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: University City, MO Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I have always respected Shawn since i found DP. But i agree with the rest of all y'all, thats just mean Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ www.AdensBlog.com - My Blog! COPEAC - MADE $2500 MY FIRST 2 WEEKS!

05-17-2007, 04:26 PM	#19 (permalink)
yoinkgasp Turbocharged, Bitch Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,155 iTrader: 14 / 100%	Shawn, you sound like you are a competent and intelligent marketer, so I'm not going to harp on your ideas or your methods. However, getting some college kid suspended is a very pathetic and low thing to do. You are probably the kind of person that would complain that your burger and fries are taking longer than you want to wait, right? I feel sorry for you. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Make money. That is all.

05-17-2007, 04:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
Squirrelinabox a squirrel... in a box Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 162 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Thanks Shawn Collins for attempting to slow the fraud out there. Gotta love how everybody here jumps on the "hey get off your high horse" bandwagon. Um... if somebody is committing fraud, they should be stopped. This "kid" that was suspended from college was likely ripping both affiliates and "customers" off. Why shouldn't he be turned in if found out? Obviously I don't know the whole story, but neither do any of you. I'm sick and tired of the seemingly endless attempts at fraud and I'm glad every time a person responsible for some of it is caught. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Net Morality Just because you're hiding behind a computer screen doesn't mean your actions don't have consequences.

05-17-2007, 04:45 PM	#24 (permalink)
Voodooman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 272 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I don't have a problem with the dude getting busted for his fraud. Great, Shawn disabled his aff account. Hell, even freeze his earnings. But to go out of his way to get the kid booted from college, that was a low blow. You could of changed that kid's life forever. You don't play with shit like that. Then you go around boasting about it. Like its your badge of high morals. Doesn't sound to good to me. I've been in business for quite some time. I've had people send me e-mails threating to kill me for actions of no fault of my own. Yet, I didn't go and call the FEDs on them. Again, I understand what you did. And some of it was ok, by my book. But you went a little too far. And you shouldn't really be boasting about it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-17-2007, 05:03 PM	#30 (permalink)
revbones Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 20 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Still not cool. Was it your personal company or just an affiliate you had in common? If it was a company you personally owned that was paying him, you had even more options than most, and come off looking like an even bigger prick in my book. You could have frozen the account, and locked him out or done any number of things. Going to his school was way beyond what was necessary. Why stop there? Why not call the feds in - oh wait it's probably not technically illegal, so take it to the next level and see if he goes to a specific church and tell his pastor, talk to his girlfriend's parents about what a scumbag you think he is, maybe picket outside his house? Maybe you could launch a new site with his picture on the front page where you could be a prick each and every day by posting new crap about him. Nobody likes a rat and sooner or later they all get punked. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-17-2007, 05:05 PM	#32 (permalink)
Concept Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 13 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Go suck LemonAden's penis you worthless piece of shit. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-17-2007, 05:08 PM	#33 (permalink)
springer I AM the shit! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 696 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Time for some boobies to lighten things up. They make me feel better, don't they you? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a drunk. Alcoholics go to meetings!

05-17-2007, 05:13 PM	#34 (permalink)
mkrongel Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,541 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I see that Blast mentioned Copeac in his blog. If anyone generates traffic to Copeac using the method he describes, you will not get paid, and your account will be terminated. We do not allow any scheme that is designed to cheat our advertisers just like we don't allow advertisers to cheat affiliates. If you need to stoop to levels that low consider flipping burgers at Mickey D's instead of affiliate marketing, because what you're doing will eventually drive companies to compete with you instead of participating in affiliate marketing Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-17-2007, 05:23 PM	#38 (permalink)
Blastyourass Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,022 iTrader: 10 / 100%	I joined wickedfire 3 days ago. Started a blog 2 days ago. Start some threads to add a little fun around here and it's going perfect! Anyways Shawn. Can you please explain why you call me a mongrel and in your text link is pointed to whois? Can you please at least link to my site out of respect because I have you. Why are you bashing me for a post that is made on a blog that has 1st ammendmant written all over it? What did I do wrong? Where did I cross any ethical boundaries as far as I'm concerned and to what I do in my profession? If you truly look back through all my posts, 80% are to help in my own sarcastic stupid way. I have fun when I work and I don't report to anyone. That's why I got into this business. This is me but in reality and I know how to handle myself when deemed appropriate Mr. Collins and I have not bashed you one time for calling me a mongrel. YOU HURT ME FEELINGS THOUGH! Because I curse like a fucken druken sailor and I allow free speech on my 2 day old blog doesn't mean I don't have integrity or ethics to be called a mongrel dude. But hey free speech man. Hey no hard feelings and I didn't mean to cause a stink dude. As much as I did but I'll buy you a beer at the summit and we can have a laugh. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-17-2007, 05:25 PM	#40 (permalink)
Deliguy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 4,942 iTrader: 11 / 100%	We demand a belated appology to the kid! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________

05-17-2007, 05:26 PM	#41 (permalink)
Miguel internets specialist Join Date: May 2007 Location: BayArea Posts: 436 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Jeez man some of you guys need a few drinks and maybe a vicodin thrown in for propper chillage... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ nothing to see here move along now.

05-17-2007, 05:28 PM	#42 (permalink)
Voodooman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 272 iTrader: 0 / 0%	You know what. Let's allow Shawn to make things right. That's the fair thing to do. If Shawn could admit that what he did was wrong and apologize to the kid on this forum & on his blog (even though he might never see it - it's about principle). Then people should go to ASE. If not, heck I live in Miami and was planning on going. But if Shawn can't be man enough to admit he was wrong and went to far, then I don't want anything to do with ASE. Now that's fair. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-17-2007, 05:28 PM	#43 (permalink)
stojan Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tampa,Fl Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 / 0%	People dont like rats man, you could have handled the situation at a more mature and professional level . You must have been proud of yourself after fucking up a college kids life, get a life Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-17-2007, 05:29 PM	#45 (permalink)
trigatch4 BuildAndEarn Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,548 iTrader: 2 / 100%	i love lamp Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ BuildAndEarn.com - My Affiliate Blog Phandroid.com - Android Phones Rule AndroidForums.com - Android Forums (duh!)

05-17-2007, 05:31 PM	#47 (permalink)
DaveEMG Pwner. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 911 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I really wish my association with Wickedfire didn't mean I'd have to be associated with idiots like Blastyourass. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "If you ain't first you're last..." ... "Oh hell, Son, I was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth... hell you can even be fifth."

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