papajohn56

Terry Jones, The Quran-Burning Pastor, Jailed In Dearborn, Michigan

This should be interesting. The only thing driving me nuts is the comments, saying how he should be just for that, and blah blah. Just like Westboro baptist, they're fucking idiots but it's still their right to do this.

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johnysc430

The funny thing is, people are blaming him for the UN worker's being killed and not Islamic nuts.

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papajohn56

The guy is a nut, no doubt, but how on earth is murder ever an appropriate response to burning a book?

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papajohn56

ACLU files brief supporting Terry Jones | detnews.com | The Detroit News

Hell yes ACLU

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tomaszjot

It is not, but the guy is taking (some) moral responsibility for these deaths. After what happened when Mohamed (please correct the spelling) pictures were published in Swedish newspaper everyone knew how this will end up. Followers of the Religion of Love & Peace are taking Koran very seriously. In UK they requested Koran to be stored above any other books in public libraries.

BTW I expect this thread to be as popular as HB's latest one.

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jamesc32

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wtf is with all these threads

crackp0t

Regardless of how anyone feels about what he was saying this is exactly the kind of speech we have to protect. It's exactly what the first amendment was made for. I'm actually surprised the ACLU picked it up, but good for them. I hope they rake that judges ass over the coals.

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papajohn56

The guy has no moral responsibility here for that, it's 100% on people who think killing is a valid response to a book burning. Violence is not an answer to free speech that offends you. Ever.

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csnreyes

If someone was to burn a bible, people would be killed. After 9/11 a few extreme Christians killed people from the Middle East.

All of this shit is shit, too much fucking hate.

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papajohn56

There wouldn't be riots with 20 aid workers being killed over a bible being burned. There are extremists on all sides, yes I know, Timothy McVeigh etc, but the burning of a bible wouldn't lead to mass riots.

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csnreyes

Yeah I agree, but still shit does happen.
Why the fuck do people care so much about other's beliefs lol, it doesn't have anything to do with them.

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papajohn56

who knows. I'm not defending what he's saying either, but it's his right to say it.

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csnreyes

I agree 100%, I'm not in a debate about anything towards that. Just think people are fucked up

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jamesc32

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Man I need me some popcorn for all the trollin threads going on around here.

d_diggler

They are the People of the Book, they are people of many books. All the useful scientific books that you have today are theirs, the fruit of their free and creative thinking.

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Ignorance is a poweful thing.

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MaxSteve

Sure he has significant moral responsibility. He knew the reaction to the burning of the book would be violence leading to death. In fact, I think his plan was to incite it to further demonize the muslim religion.

Saying he has no moral responsibility is the same as saying I'd have no moral responsibility if I left my children alone in a bedroom with a known pedophile.

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Prove those two statements with a link. Especially the first one.

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mikecarquote

People filled with hate and rage = extreme violence. In certain geographies it is a given that a large percentage of the population hates westerners. It just takes something to fire up the rage and they will act.

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In the US, if anyone burned The Bible, no one would be jailed.

How can you be jailed for actions that happen in another country ?

While I do think the pastor is a bit 'extreme', I dont feel like he should be jailed and tried for "murder" or anything of that nature . I mean seriously what the fuck is that. If I was to burn a picture of Mohammad and some crazy Islam extremests killed someone in another part of the world, why should I be jailed or charged in any way? The actions caused by THEIR morals and beliefs should not be tied to me in any way.

This is why i'm glad religion will start to decline over the next several hundred years (hopefully).

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I just figured it out... Terry Jones is Hellblazer!

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tomaszjot

I wrote SOME moral responsibility. It similar to person who is attempting a suicide. You may stay quiet or you may scream "jump you fucker!". The guy is mentally unstable and your "jump!" my actually trigger the suicide. You don't literally push the guy out of the window but (if triggered by you) you have SOME moral responsibility. People who kill in the name of Koran (or any other book - yes Koran is just a book) are mentally unstable sick animals. As much as you may support the freedom of speech you should consider potential outcome of your activities especially if outcome might be so nasty.

That said, no legal action should be taken against him. He is just an idiot with dead people on his conscience.

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fm1234

Just for those who didn't read TFA, his being jailed had nothing to do with burning the Koran -- he was jailed because he was levied a $1 token fine by a judge, and refused to pay it. He was jailed "briefly" according to the article.

Always read TFA.


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