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Old 04-25-2011, 06:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hell yea! Lets get a group of us to dump some advertising or something into his campaign!
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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All Ron Paul really needs is some national exposure. Sure, most people who follow politics know about him but the average schmuck doesn't. Maybe if he gets the VP nod or some high profile interviews people might start taking him seriously; I'm sure he could mesmerize most of the American population with his no-nonsense speaking style. But otherwise he's just a fringe candidate and "meh" as far as I'm concerned. Go Mitt Romney, I guess.
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He just got a late start last election. No one knew who he was. A few noticed him after he got screwed in the south carolina debate (i was one of those people who had no idea who he was but the moment i saw that i jumped out of my seat yelling at the tv and became an instant supporter after that). He blew up very fast but just didn't have enough time to gain those supporters and get them properly organized. They worked hard but couldn't quite pull it off in time. He made a smart move declaring his candidacy early. Now all of his supporters can start back up on his campaigning. Plus since 2008 he's been keeping himself in the news and constantly campaigning. Fox news even has him on a lot now to help their trash talk about obama mission. He's a lot more media friendly and better at conveying his points (facts be faced he was rusty last election).

Now he has tons of very loyal do or die followers on the war path. He's going to gain a ton of campaign financing right off the bat and get off to a great start. The only thing thats going to really hold him back is the stigma that he lost last time therefore he can't win this time. That'll be the #1 attack against him and it'll be used the entire caucus. Yet somehow i'm sure it won't be used against mitt romney and sarah pailin. I guarantee though he hasn't lost any supporters and has probably gained all the kucunich and gravel supporters as well (uncompromising idiots basically threw away good votes that could have gone to ron paul over a few minor issues). So he can only go up .
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All Ron Paul really needs is some national exposure. Sure, most people who follow politics know about him but the average schmuck doesn't. Maybe if he gets the VP nod or some high profile interviews people might start taking him seriously; I'm sure he could mesmerize most of the American population with his no-nonsense speaking style. But otherwise he's just a fringe candidate and "meh" as far as I'm concerned. Go Mitt Romney, I guess.
hes had exposure from Fox/CNN, and they all shoot him down and make it impossible for him to be elected.
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My prediction: He won't get past the primaries. His own party will turn against him and pick jokes like sarah palin or donald trump.

Him as vp would be good strategy for republicans but they probably don't want to risk the age issue. Besides, I can't see him accepting a vp position behind the likes of Palin.
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All Ron Paul really needs is some national exposure. Sure, most people who follow politics know about him but the average schmuck doesn't. Maybe if he gets the VP nod or some high profile interviews people might start taking him seriously; I'm sure he could mesmerize most of the American population with his no-nonsense speaking style. But otherwise he's just a fringe candidate and "meh" as far as I'm concerned. Go Mitt Romney, I guess.
As I posted in the Gary Johnson thread, the problem with these candidates is that the majority of voters (people who actually go out and vote, not just registered voters) swing to the extreme right or extreme left. If Paul or Johnson can get middle of the road Americans to get out and vote, they might have a chance. I just don't think it's possible. The best they can do is raise some awareness for their policies and/or parties, IMO.
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hes had exposure from Fox/CNN, and they all shoot him down and make it impossible for him to be elected.
They are really good at driving that message home, but they can't have him on one week as an expert and then say the next that he'd be a bad president. Just doesn't make sense.

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what the fuck is the point? he cant win so why waste the effort?

well over half of the american population is on some form of welfare, few people will vote themselves out of free money, housing, food, medical, etc.

so yea, good luck with that Paul.

the only people he appeals to are white tax payers who don't get any form of welfare. there are about 50-100 of us left in the U.S. so I don't know where the fuck his votes are going to come from...
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Let's take a trip to fantasy land for a moment. Say Paul won it all, do you think he would end up compromising his positions to get things done (becoming just another shit ass political sell out in the process) or would he stick to his guns and bring everything to screeching halt when he finds out politics with power is something he's never had?


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what the fuck is the point? he cant win so why waste the effort?

well over half of the american population is on some form of welfare, few people will vote themselves out of free money, housing, food, medical, etc.

so yea, good luck with that Paul.

the only people he appeals to are white tax payers who don't get any form of welfare. there are about 50-100 of us left in the U.S. so I don't know where the fuck his votes are going to come from...
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so he should just do nothing like everybody else right?

I respect the fact that he's standing up for his principles even though he doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell at getting elected president. You think he's going to regret doing his best to change the country and failing on his death bed?
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He doesn't have to win to make a difference. If someone from The Rent is Too Damn High party got 30% of the vote, then the winner would at least have to pretend that they were concerned about rent rates. Future candidates would be more likely to talk about their ideas on getting rents lower and this might mean they would spend less time having the same old debates about abortion or whatever.


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It wouldn't matter if he was younger, he's way too against much of what has turned into the Republican party line. They couldn't have their president candidate saying he might bomb Iran or want to have Julian Assange executed while Paul runs for VP saying nearly the opposite type of stuff. Just a few hours ago : Ron Paul to Sean Hannity: Stop with your Sharia!

Palin seems more into making money by being a celebrity of sorts, evident by her quitting governor to focus on that, so I don't think she will run.
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aren't ron paul and john mccain the same age? Age never got brought up for mccain
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what the fuck is the point? he cant win so why waste the effort?

well over half of the american population is on some form of welfare, few people will vote themselves out of free money, housing, food, medical, etc.

so yea, good luck with that Paul.

the only people he appeals to are white tax payers who don't get any form of welfare. there are about 50-100 of us left in the U.S. so I don't know where the fuck his votes are going to come from...
Word. There's been so much talent and capital that has left the US just in the past 5 years it's rtarded.
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Ron Paul is seriously underrated.

His ideas are worth gold and he'd be a great president, but he doesn't know how to get elected. On the other hand, Obama knows how to become a president but doesn't know how to be a great president.
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Uhhh yeah it did. Don't you remember this is why people especially freaked out that he would die and leave Palin in charge of the country.
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"Change we can believe in." is BS. We need change that is real. If not Ron Paul than maybe some other candidate that has his/her head screwed on straight.

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what the fuck is the point? he cant win so why waste the effort?

well over half of the american population is on some form of welfare, few people will vote themselves out of free money, housing, food, medical, etc.

so yea, good luck with that Paul.

the only people he appeals to are white tax payers who don't get any form of welfare. there are about 50-100 of us left in the U.S. so I don't know where the fuck his votes are going to come from...
If we get you a Ron Paul Cured My Apathy bumper sticker, would that help?
The reason we have to deal with this shit is because this what our parents believed as well. "Vote for the lesser of 2 evils" or "Don't vote at all, it doesn't matter."

Fuck that. The mere fact that he's running again is good news. Even if he doesn't get elected, with every shot he takes at the Whitehouse, more people hear the freedom message. Look at it as free advertising for freedom if nothing else.
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If Paul came right out and said "Vote for me and I will abolish the personal income tax!" he'd be on the right track... but of course he's the only Republican that isn't a loud-mouthed catch phrase spewing lout.
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I thought you guys were on a major conservative sweep, cutting budgets, reducing military and what not. Not true?
To an extent. There's more that could be done, imo, particularly in the way of benefits (housing benefit, jobseekers allowance, etc etc.) David Cameron doesn't seem to suck Obama's dick as much as some of the other prime ministers (I think the government & queen doesn't like him hehe) but we still follow you blindly on a lot of things. (In military aspects especially)
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I skimmed his site, didn't see the debate schedules...link plz?
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