LazyHippy

Mr ShoeMoney,

Maybe I'm biased because I spend a lot of time here at WickedFire, but I also read your blog and both have been useful sources of information.

I've got to say reading your comments here my opinion of you has gone down a lot. It's obvious there's some history with you and Jon, but you were being challenged about your knowledge of arbitrage and you responded by bringing up unrelated personal matters, throwing insults and dropping-names.

Like it or not mate - as Geekcognito said - you've got kids looking up to you and plenty of people like me who consider(d) you a good source of information. Implying you think this place is full of "shit talking fake bullshitting people", when most people here know otherwise makes me question your judgement about other things as well and be less likely to value your advice. I don't think I'm alone in that.

This might be different if you address the original accusation - that you were talking about something you have little experience of - without sounding childish.

I'm not saying it's wrong to talk about something you don't have experience of (as long as you don't lie about that). The best teachers aren't always the most experienced, but those that know how to teach.

Jon has had the balls to admit when he's been wrong. (Even if he's a clever marketer that knows full well just how good that makes him look!)

I don't expect a reply to this, as I understand you are such a busy, important person. If you could find time to consider the effect your reaction here may have on your readers and respond to the original accusation I'm sure it would be appreciated.

Regards,

An average blog reader, who until now valued your opinion.

(If you think I'm sucking up to Jon or something, check my posts - I've spoken out when I've disagreed with him. I bend over for no man!)

dekalog6 - I think you'd be better putting that in another thread mate, it might get lost here.

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dekalog6

Yup, the topic seems to have gone through some odd twists.

Ataraxy

QQ..

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a lighting round with engaged could be a dream come true ...

barman

Indeed. I would pay $4 for something like that! Out with it engaged!

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jened

i'll see your $4 and raise you a pizza!

engaged

i'll be honest, after getting banned from adsense a few months ago, the arbi income isn't back where it was, but it will be soon...

if you still want to do arbi with adsense, make it something useful. you could still probably get 40%+ ctr on a site that looks good. Instead of just using crap RSS feeds, pull in some wiki data, product reviews, product comparisons, maybe an article from an article directory...

the days of:

Title
Ad
Ad
RSS

are over if you get big and start doing volume.

I am really interested to see if 5-top-sites got banned this coming June 1st, they are one of the few big boys left with that format.

wesley

So you're not using adsense for your arbitrage?

engaged

uh ;-)

geekcognito

So this thread has turned into an engaged Q&A? haha.

As long as you're checking it, engaged, what do you think about other PPC networks with Arbi? I don't really want to lose my Adsense account over this nonsense.

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engaged

do you mean using YPN or do you mean buying traffic from other places?

YPN = US only traffic... thats the downfall, and the targeting is horrible.

3rd tier ppc = tons of fraud, low volume

ysm = .1 minimum, may not workout with adsense or ypn

msn = low volume

Jon

Hahahahhahaha!!!

Only on fucking WickedFire I tell ya.. Everyone suddenly calms down and starts talking about making bank lol. I love it!!

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Xrproto

meh...this is old crap and the masses are slow along with google.

It's on smartbitrage 4.2 already.

BUT it's a good thing the masses follow certain people with in this industry...it makes it VERY easy to stay ahead of them.

Haha...bitches.

I also completely understand where you're coming from engaged with all the media this last week around it. The only thing I've really enjoyed about it all is that it makes me feel like a fucking genius and I'm about as dumb as a box of rocks.

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Blastyourass

im a little late but i just wanted to say fuck ya all because im the best at what i do in my mind and thats all that counts, so yeah, umm, fuck you all who dont think i'm the best

lets have a ring at the summit. Ultimate Affiliate Fighting or something fun like that. shit at least i can enter the ring there

Xrproto

Well the New York Post has an article about it...

Funny thing is...Google "cracking" down won't stop me from spamming their engine and you don't need adsense for that. Nothing new on getting a site banned in a month or two. Next.

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chatmasta

ahahahahahahaha what a great thread to read.

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John

I can't read all of this shit, someone fill me in.

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geekcognito

No, I meant getting traffic from Adwords and monetizing it through different means. YPN and other PPC networks.

I've dealt with arbi small scale. Learned about mostly here and then tweaked crap to see what works. Still doing it, I just want to take it up to a higher level of sophistication, as Xproto says "Arbi 4.2." Basically drive traffic to a site that looks absolutely like conventional arbi but converts very well.

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Sands

Wicked Fire is Fight Club for Internet Marketers.

crossfittn

BlastYourAss, I'm interested in an affiliate fight as well. I'm into muay thai + bjj and i train with a combo of crossfit plus the stuff I learned in the books from Ross Enamait (rosstraining.com).

hardcore is the only way to go. mirrors and big chests are for fags.

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geekcognito

I'm up for drinking beer while watching you geeks fight it out.

(geeks, of course, being a term of endearment)

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Blastyourass

I've trained on the street most my life man. I was doing backyard fights when I was 14-20 for beer. I then trained in kick boxing for 7 years.

I'm like a Chuck Liddell man. I just zero in on your head with my fists and go for the kill shot. I love watching him fight. He's like a Machine with his fists. All old school and 100% effective.

As far as fighting. This last year wasn't good for me so I need redemtption.

#1. I saw a kid 15 year old getting beat buy a skinhead, so captain saviour comes in and I teach the guy a lesson with a 1-2 and he was out cold. Little did I know that 30 of his buddies were across the street. I ended up n a coma and broken back in 3-06

#2. Saw a dude beting his chick in July 06. Same shit. 1-2 done. Two days go by and I'm walikng out my garage. BAM, bat to the jaw. Broken by his brother.

Not a good year for me in the fight arena. Fuck I'm 35, I'm hanging up the gloves but I'll take them out at the Summit for fun but I want to fight a self proclaimed super affiliate or something.

Well I have a big chest man and thats from working out in various correctional facillities over the years. Nothing to do there but eat, talk and workout and I wouldn't call me a fag but I know what your saying there man. Beefcake beach is gay!

SeoDave

This is by no means a jibe, but I love how BYA went from "cant spell fuck head" to perfect capitalization, punctuation, and paragraph formatting in less than a week. :-p

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Laura

Um, Moe - you're kinda scary. Remind me not to piss you off.

Blastyourass

Mailed the check yesterday man.

I actually can spell, I just can't type and I like to say fuck. When I didnt gice a fuck, I didnt realize that 90% of the people judge you by how and where you put a coma or i before e, whatever? and not on what you know and can do? Just like in the offline world where your judged by how you look.

Blastyourass

I'm actually the coolest down to earth guy you'll meet. I used to act on words and take action but as I get older I realize they are just words. So piss me off Laura and tell me I'm a fucktard, I dont mind.

But mess with my family or if I see a kid getting beat, then there will be issues.

kaveman

how did this video not make it into this thread

YouTube - Adsense Arbitrage - Just the facts.

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nachoninja

blastyourass = YouTube - I'll show you tough"

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agua

Or blastyourass = YouTube - Afro Ninja

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SleepyStarling

So true -- it's like the anti-shallow shallow. Somehow, that comforts me.

There's also the fact that it's harder to speed-read writing online if it's in broken English. Anyway, back on topic -- I just wanted to applaud the dramatic improvement in your self-presentation as well.

BTW, after both of those nasty fights, how are you alive? Sounds like some scary shit.

Blastyourass

Thanks for taking the time out and finding my long lost videos peeps. Those were not supposed to be found

But your asses got it wrong. I'm entering this contest tough guys.

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Blastyourass

thanks sleepy. I'm pretty lucky to be around yes for sure. and thats just last year

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Lerch may be considered a "super affiliate", plus he's probably one of the biggest (in mass) affiliates on the planet.

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aeiouy

This thread had so much potential. By the end of the first page, it was on.

Then it just turned into a pile of crap.

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comatose

Dont know if this was mentioned or not, but did anyone listen to the 2 hour call with shoemoney and John Reese?
Im wondering if its worth the two hours to listen to or not..

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waraas

I stopped caring about shoemoney after meeting him ASW. I bet he doesnt even remember me? haha

this thread has gone to shit. Im too late..damnit

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Blastyourass

well I have the biggest balls (in mass) so I'm a super baller affiliate

Jon

This thread is so last week.. get over it!

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jened

yes as we all know jon doesn't hold any grudges against anyone

arz

Remember when he said he was laying off Lee Dodd? And then did you read the blog post a week ago?