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Old 05-17-2011, 05:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question AMD vs. Intel?

I'm building a new computer and haven't kept up with the processor wars, which one should I get? Computer will mainly be used for work, porn, and laughing at funny pictures and youtube videos. Only gaming is the occasional quake 3 arena and angry birds desktop version. I plan on getting at least 8gb of ram and installing windows and all programs on a SSD drive.
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Old 05-17-2011, 05:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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amd's cheaper and just as good for anything you can do.
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AMD Phenom II X6, bang for your buck.
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This is like when people say "zomg it's got nvidia graphics, so it must be good!11"

They're both as good as each other, if you want a quad core, choose a phenom or a intel i series/ q series - if you want a dual core, find a c2d or a random AMD chip.

It's more about what fits your particular price point best, and what kind of video card/motherboard you want most.
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Old 05-17-2011, 07:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I've never had an issue with Intel anything in 20 years.

AMD/ATI on the other hand... I tried to like their products, I really did...
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AMD Phenom II X6, bang for your buck.
I thought this as well until I dug deeper.

considering most app dont even take advantage of multi core methods, he would be just a fine to get the x4 980 or 975 cpu.

what he really needs to look at is motherboard.
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Consider purchasing an Apple because the new Macbook Pro line have Thunderbolt technology which you just won't see on a PC whether it be an AMD or Intel build.
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Consider purchasing an Apple because the new Macbook Pro line have Thunderbolt technology which you just won't see on a PC whether it be an AMD or Intel build.
As a rough rule, 100mbit = 11M/sec, gbit = 110M/sec, 10g=1,110M/sec.

If you drop the extra money for an SSD in a Macbook, you're going to get around 250M/sec reads, and 200M/sec writes.

Care to explain to me, in your infinite wisdom, exactly why you need a periphial interface that your hard drive couldn't possibly keep up with?

I mean, USB3 is 5gbit, which means around 500M/sec, which is still fuckloads faster than your HDD can handle. Not to mention most external devices run on technology like SD, and flash, which generally only transfer at speeds lower than 50M/sec.

Do you just plan on bragging to your buddies that you paid 2x as much for your external devices, which can't even handle the transfer rates?
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I thought this as well until I dug deeper.

considering most app dont even take advantage of multi core methods, he would be just a fine to get the x4 980 or 975 cpu.

what he really needs to look at is motherboard.
You'd be surprised how many programs out there running on your system have multiple threads. You may not notice it because they aren't that intensive. The 1090T for $190 off new egg rather than going with say an Intel Core i7-950 or higher, which will run about $80 more and benchmark stock just about the same, and you end up with 2 more cores with the AMD. Not that hard of a decision really.
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You'd be surprised how many programs out there running on your system have multiple threads. You may not notice it because they aren't that intensive. The 1090T for $190 off new egg rather than going with say an Intel Core i7-950 or higher, which will run about $80 more and benchmark stock just about the same, and you end up with 2 more cores with the AMD. Not that hard of a decision really.
Dude, do you even know how threads work? I'll give you a hint, adding thread support to an app, does NOT make it multi-core enabled.
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Do you just plan on bragging to your buddies that you paid 2x as much for your external devices, which can't even handle the transfer rates?
USB3 isn't going anywhere as Apple is supporting/promoting/pushing Thunderbolt and other manufacturers will follow suit because that's what they do.

You would be very silly to suggest USB3 is better than Thunderbolt just because at the current time it's more inline with transfer speeds. It's a short sighted view. Thunderbolt is future proof which is why I purchase Apple products.

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The CPU performance is mostly irrelevent unless you're a hardcore gamer. The SSD and RAM are the important things for everyday use.

I would choose the CPU based on how cool it runs and its power usage. Last time I checked Intel were hard to beat in those departments.

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Dude, do you even know how threads work? I'll give you a hint, adding thread support to an app, does NOT make it multi-core enabled.
Of course I know how they work, that's not the point I guess I was trying drive home. The fact is you can spread more processes over more cores which would mean less threads running per core, which should give a significant performance boost while multitasking.
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USB3 isn't going anywhere as Apple is supporting/promoting/pushing Thunderbolt and other manufacturers will follow suit because that's what they do.
Worked awesome for Firewire. Oh wait, no it didn't...
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Worked awesome for Firewire. Oh wait, no it didn't...
Intel is behind thunderbolt as they invented it, where as firewire was all apple. HP already said they plan on rolling out thunderbolt on some of their computers by 2012. Many peripheral manufacturers already have working thunderbolt products, just not for sale yet. External graphics cards will actually be possible with thunderbolt. I think both will live together in some way though. Thunderbolt is a lot smaller though, which makes squeezing it into a small laptop a little easier.
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usb3.0 is backwards compatible and will always beat the crap out of a product invented by an apple..

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I have a 6core 3.2 from AMD, pretty happy with it.

HOWEVER, the ATI graphics card drivers, IMO, are trash. I'll never buy ATI again or at least not for a very long time.
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I used to be a fan of AMD. Got into them when I had no money, and during the times when Intel fucked up, AMD became the leader of the field.

Somwhow, though, they now managed to fuxxor everything, and I am betting my money on Intel for a few years now.

Yeah, I am not a brand loyalty advocate.

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liked the old AMD FX ones but thats some years ago. I stick with intel right now.
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Thunderbolt was invented by Intel...
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AMD of course. Been supporting them before they got all famous.
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AMD has slowed down their updates/upgrades in the past.

Like emp, AMD powered my earlier machines just because they were so cheap. But as I got the moniez, it had to be intel.

I am not a techie when it comes to computer hardware and I read about the thunderbolt technology for the first time on this thread, still I have never once had a problem with Intel and I plan on sticking to it for the same reason.
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Thread I think.

I personally have a AMD Phenom six core and its handled everything I've thrown at it well. Heavy music and video editing are a breeze, plus does gaming well too.

I'd spend the cash which you save on the processor on other things like hookers and blow.
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I would vote for Intel. Using them for a few years, never had anything to complain
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Somwhow, though, they now managed to fuxxor everything, and I am betting my money on Intel for a few years now.

Yeah, I am not a brand loyalty advocate.

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How/when did they fuck up?

FTR AMD here.

Price:Performance ratio unbeatable.
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Get you some of them new high performance Pentiums 2, cant's go wrong

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Old 05-19-2011, 11:59 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Since a kid I've only had INTEL. Right now i have a CORE2QUAD and it's great.

I tried to play games also, and it works smoothly
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Been an AMD fan mostly, semi-recently bought an i7 950 but imo not much of a difference at all compared to the less expensive Phenoms but I also don't play too many games.
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AMD is cheaper than intel but in performance intel is more faster than any AMD processors.
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I've had an i7 and phenom II for 2 or so years now, also have couple of lower end intel and amd servers.

Like both pcs but amd is usually a better value for the money. My brother did not like amd until I built him a new pc with phenom II as well. Now he prefers it over intel.

As for me, I dont give a crap intel or amd, I just get whatever seems to be a better value for the specs I need.
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Since I don't do any heavy gaming, 3d, encoding, or graphics work I went ahead with a phenom II x6 1100T and love how good it is at multitasking. Running a custom scraping app with 50 active connections, 20 internet explorer macros, streaming some netflix, 10 open tabs in firefox, 15 in opera and everything is still fast and responsive as if I just booted up.
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I will go with AMD.. your money is worth the it
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Intel i7-970 ftw. I don't even play games lmao. If you have any friends working at a retailer that sells intel products, ask them to hook you up with their retail employee purchase program.
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USB3 isn't going anywhere as Apple is supporting/promoting/pushing Thunderbolt and other manufacturers will follow suit because that's what they do.

You would be very silly to suggest USB3 is better than Thunderbolt just because at the current time it's more inline with transfer speeds. It's a short sighted view. Thunderbolt is future proof which is why I purchase Apple products.

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Ok, I thought Apples whole strategy was to come out with something new every MOTHER FUCKING YEAR<<<<<<<<<<< WTF is future proof about the same shit over and over again/
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I'm using i7 2600 atm, no complaints here, very fast & does all that's needed. I don't game but just like to multi task & have things loading fast!
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Besides the fact AMD costs less and works basically as well, I like them more because of their cpu fan encasement. Maybe Intel has improved recently but at last built, their fans were not enclosed and could easily bump into stray wires.. AMD fans just seemd more intelligently engineered..

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Quite honestly, AMD and Intel are the same when it comes to performance. There might be a few differences when you start getting into the super-high-end category, and I believe that right now Intel is leading as far as that goes, but barring that range, anything just under the best (and most expensive of course), you will find very little difference. I am an AMD guy myself.

Here is a recent chart from Tomshardware on CPU's that are good for gaming. This should give you a good idea on what I'm talking about.

Gaming CPU Hierarchy Chart : Best Gaming CPUs For The Money: April 2011
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