Looks like FTC really going after Jesse Willms this time - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum

NutrapayAndy · 05-22-2011, 06:35 PM

Alberta online firm accused of $450 million fraud scheme

$450 million. God damn

makethatgreen · 05-22-2011, 10:43 PM

papajohn56 · 05-22-2011, 10:48 PM

nitro_dee · 05-22-2011, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by makethatgreen

Uh huh

crackp0t · 05-22-2011, 10:59 PM

If he's smart he'll show he only has a couple million they'll take it and be happy.

papajohn56 · 05-22-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by crackp0t

If he's smart he'll show he only has a couple million they'll take it and be happy.

YES IT'S THIS EASY FOLKS. just hide it under your mattress from the FTC and they'll never question things - they won't subpoena your books at all

come on man, it's not as easy as "yeah man show em a few mil and run"

crackp0t · 05-22-2011, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajohn56

YES IT'S THIS EASY FOLKS. just hide it under your mattress from the FTC and they'll never question things - they won't subpoena your books at all

come on man, it's not as easy as "yeah man show em a few mil and run"

yeah, if you knew what the fuck you were talking about you're statement might matter. I'm not saying OMG HIDE IT UNDER TEH BEDZ LAWL.

harry1970 · 05-22-2011, 11:13 PM

wonder who is going to save the dolphins now....

MadMaxNine · 05-22-2011, 11:14 PM

inb4 shitjustgotreal.gif

Instrumentalist · 05-22-2011, 11:21 PM

Enough with the oh_look_its_this_thread_again.jpg!

papajohn56 · 05-22-2011, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackp0t

yeah, if you knew what the fuck you were talking about you're statement might matter. I'm not saying OMG HIDE IT UNDER TEH BEDZ LAWL.

yeah except I do know what the fuck I'm talking about, and if he's trying to move money around now, it's a bit late. you don't think the FTC knows if someone is a risk of moving assets real fast? here's a hint, they've been working on this case for years. just like the others.

what's he gonna do, just suddenly move it offshore right now and expect everything to be OK? that's now how offshoring works. if his money was domestic at the time of seizures, subpoenas, or asset freezings, then it's not easy.

sumitdhawan · 05-22-2011, 11:38 PM

Hello friends,

If goverment take away all Jesse Willms monies then he no have money to buy food for feed poor.

Good luck bros

chatmasta · 05-22-2011, 11:42 PM

hahaha i love this post on his blog Jesse Willms: The Importance Of Reading Offer Details | JesseWillms.com - The Official Blog of Jesse Willms

edit: wow this guy is a huge queer

mpbiz · 05-22-2011, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajohn56

what's he gonna do, just suddenly move it offshore right now and expect everything to be OK?

There is no fucking way that he hasn't been preparing for this day for a long time now.. if the majority of his money is still domestic then he deserves to lose it for being a dumbass.

papajohn56 · 05-22-2011, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mpbiz

There is no fucking way that he hasn't been preparing for this day for a long time now.. if the majority of his money is still domestic then he deserves to lose it for being a dumbass.

That's my point. That or he's stupid as shit, but someone would've told him "uhh dude" by that time.

crackp0t · 05-23-2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by papajohn56

yeah except I do know what the fuck I'm talking about, and if he's trying to move money around now, it's a bit late. you don't think the FTC knows if someone is a risk of moving assets real fast? here's a hint, they've been working on this case for years. just like the others.

what's he gonna do, just suddenly move it offshore right now and expect everything to be OK? that's now how offshoring works. if his money was domestic at the time of seizures, subpoenas, or asset freezings, then it's not easy.

Why the fuck would he be doing it just now? I never said ZOMG HE CAN MOVE MONIES NOW AND BE OKAY. He had to have known this was going to happen and planned accordingly. If not he's a complete retard that deserves to be butt fucked by the ftc.

Worst thing that happens is he goes to jail for a while and collects his money when he gets out.

papajohn56 · 05-23-2011, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackp0t

Why the fuck would he be doing it just now? I never said ZOMG HE CAN MOVE MONIES NOW AND BE OKAY. He had to have known this was going to happen and planned accordingly. If not he's a complete retard that deserves to be butt fucked by the ftc.

Worst thing that happens is he goes to jail for a while and collects his money when he gets out.

Well, no criminal charges have been filed yet, so not sure if that will happen even. Yeah I was just getting the impression you were like "oh bro he can just move it now he'll be ok", which is the mentality of some people here.

mGrunin · 05-23-2011, 02:01 AM

papajohn56 · 05-23-2011, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mGrunin

W is all like "it's cool, I love rebills too - I started a big one called the Iraq War for Halliburton"

crossfittn · 05-23-2011, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by harry1970

wonder who is going to save the dolphins now....

right on lol... gotta love his PR blogs

aswinglater · 05-23-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by papajohn56

W is all like "it's cool, I love rebills too - I started a big one called the Iraq War for Halliburton"

Post of the day. + rep

BlokBlok · 05-23-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by papajohn56

W is all like "it's cool, I love rebills too - I started a big one called the Iraq War for Halliburton"

+1
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papajohn56 · 05-23-2011, 06:20 PM

Word I'm getting now is that most or all of his offshore Cyprus accounts were frozen, and Visa/MC were subpoena'd so they know the 100% exact amount.

jenzkc · 05-23-2011, 07:01 PM

i'm quite pleased by this. guy seems like a total douchefag.

g1c9 · 05-23-2011, 08:37 PM

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right on lol... gotta love his PR blogs

BAN.

Back to topic: I've seen his self-PR work before and it's pretty standard, but today I googled his name and he's buying adwords for himself. Now that's real talk.

Jesse on False Claims. Thanks Jesse!

evelynds · 05-23-2011, 08:53 PM

JESSE WILLMS

S M W · 05-23-2011, 08:58 PM

you think he'd be living off his millions down in argentina or somewhere that the ftc can't touch him.... what a douche.

dodgy · 05-23-2011, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajohn56

W is all like "it's cool, I love rebills too - I started a big one called the Iraq War for Halliburton"

Hahaha....Winner...

character · 05-23-2011, 09:02 PM

who really thinks he has his money in USD? and he hasnt been planning this for atleast a few months? doubt any of this matters to him, really..

penguinbc · 05-23-2011, 09:12 PM

CTV Edmonton - Alberta online firms accused of scamming $450 million - CTV News

jsphfcll · 05-23-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by character

who really thinks he has his money in USD? and he hasnt been planning this for atleast a few months? doubt any of this matters to him, really..

and this matters how?

Rusky · 05-23-2011, 09:22 PM

Respect a white boy hustle.

character · 05-23-2011, 09:28 PM

cuz tha FTC aint getting SHIT

maxximum · 05-23-2011, 09:37 PM

Before he became a philanthropist he had these, I liked these better...

SwipeBids.com Possibly Tied to Jesse Willms Just Think Media

maxximum · 05-23-2011, 09:41 PM

Why Jesse Willms is Better Than Chuck Norris - in his own words Jesse Willms Is Chuck Norris

ChrisS · 05-23-2011, 10:24 PM

He seems like a smart person (450 million dollars smart). He probably knew this was coming and has something stashed away.

...Or maybe he'll get fucked anyway. Karma is a bitch.

Provide REAL VALUE, people. Otherwise something bad will always happen to you.

mpbiz · 05-24-2011, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajohn56

Word I'm getting now is that most or all of his offshore Cyprus accounts were frozen, and Visa/MC were subpoena'd so they know the 100% exact amount.

Just out of curiosity, where does everyone hide their money nowadays?

jhindi · 05-24-2011, 01:12 AM

I just want to add my 2cents here.

I'm in the process of settling with the FTC on a MUCH smaller case (sorry will not go into details), so I have a little bit of experience...

The FTC is NO JOKE.
At the end of the day, they will get whatever they want. Before they start a case they know pretty much everything about you and your money. They know what they want and they will get it.
Offshore bank accounts, this isn't they 80's, they know about them. Have a nice car? Enjoy it, because it's now their car. Oh yeah, and don't try to lie to them, it will just get you in more trouble.

$450 million is not a small sum. Thats the type of shit you go to jail for. Since he is not in the US, it may be to his benefit. My case was only a few hundred thousand and they pretty much wiped me clean. Even after settling they still monitor you for a few years to come.

For those that think he's just getting some slap on the wrist, not happening. Trust me, he's shitting his pants. This isn't some private corporation that will settle out of court for a million. This is the US government, and they LOVE money. They are patient. They will let you get to the top, and right when your at the top, they take you down. No warning, just a FedEx with 100 pages.

character · 05-24-2011, 01:30 AM

hi FTC

mpbiz · 05-24-2011, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhindi

I just want to add my 2cents here.

I'm in the process of settling with the FTC on a MUCH smaller case (sorry will not go into details), so I have a little bit of experience...

The FTC is NO JOKE.
At the end of the day, they will get whatever they want. Before they start a case they know pretty much everything about you and your money. They know what they want and they will get it.
Offshore bank accounts, this isn't they 80's, they know about them. Have a nice car? Enjoy it, because it's now their car. Oh yeah, and don't try to lie to them, it will just get you in more trouble.

$450 million is not a small sum. Thats the type of shit you go to jail for. Since he is not in the US, it may be to his benefit. My case was only a few hundred thousand and they pretty much wiped me clean. Even after settling they still monitor you for a few years to come.

For those that think he's just getting some slap on the wrist, not happening. Trust me, he's shitting his pants. This isn't some private corporation that will settle out of court for a million. This is the US government, and they LOVE money. They are patient. They will let you get to the top, and right when your at the top, they take you down. No warning, just a FedEx with 100 pages.

Are you guys hiring?

aaronklaw · 05-24-2011, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajohn56

YES IT'S THIS EASY FOLKS. just hide it under your mattress from the FTC and they'll never question things - they won't subpoena your books at all

come on man, it's not as easy as "yeah man show em a few mil and run"

I can confirm with 100% certainty that you are correct good sir. Merely "showing them the money" will not suffice. You bleed until they say stop.

aaronklaw · 05-24-2011, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S M W

you think he'd be living off his millions down in argentina or somewhere that the ftc can't touch him.... what a douche.

oh they can still get it there my friend. banks/governments like to cooperate when the US starts stomping around all oprah like.

For the other two yoyo's above, that is the same experience my clients have had with the FTC. It's no joke, so if you're not taking it seriously ur doin it wrong.

papajohn56 · 05-24-2011, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaronklaw

oh they can still get it there my friend. banks/governments like to cooperate when the US starts stomping around all oprah like.

For the other two yoyo's above, that is the same experience my clients have had with the FTC. It's no joke, so if you're not taking it seriously ur doin it wrong.

Some jurisdictions still won't cooperate with the US on civil matters like this, especially if the bank in question has no US presence. It all depends.

aaronklaw · 05-24-2011, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by papajohn56

Some places still won't.

Unless you're looking for countries that aren't signatories to the hague convention (which....most are and the ones that aren't are in 3rd world countrires...except the maldives) then you're SOL. Switzerland? Even they got pressured into revealing the names of account holders last year. Belize, Argentina, Caymans. If the Federal Government really wanted to come after you theres really not a lot stopping them. Even if they can't touch it, they can keep your ass in prison for violating a contempt order for not coughing up the money.

ebtek · 05-24-2011, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g1c9

BAN.

Back to topic: I've seen his self-PR work before and it's pretty standard, but today I googled his name and he's buying adwords for himself. Now that's real talk.

Jesse on False Claims. Thanks Jesse!

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conv3rsion · 05-24-2011, 05:40 PM

About Jesse Willms | Jesse Willms Internet Ethics

?

someone hack his blog?

harry1970 · 05-24-2011, 07:47 PM

FTC = Maybe Geroge Orwell was right, big brother is always watching...

FTC-Hater · 05-24-2011, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conv3rsion

About Jesse Willms | Jesse Willms Internet Ethics

?

someone hack his blog?

4chan

Jesse Willms Internet Ethics

blogginginc · 05-24-2011, 08:33 PM

If he knew he was scamming people big time, why he continued to do so for such a long time and with such scale is far from my understanding. The guy clearly knew how the industry works so he could still make tons even without doing ilegal stuff.

maxximum · 05-25-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FTC-Hater

4chan

Jesse Willms Internet Ethics

For real? I noticed some things seemed wonky on his home site (he only has dozens but jessewillms.com..

It says,
"
Posted by Jesse Willms on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
Jesse Willms: We Believe Our Business Practices Are The Law"

??? uh ok

05-22-2011, 06:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
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sumitdhawan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 298 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hello friends, If goverment take away all Jesse Willms monies then he no have money to buy food for feed poor. Good luck bros Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter IceToEskimos likes this.

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chatmasta Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NH, Connecticut Posts: 2,441 iTrader: 23 / 100%	hahaha i love this post on his blog Jesse Willms: The Importance Of Reading Offer Details \| JesseWillms.com - The Official Blog of Jesse Willms edit: wow this guy is a huge queer Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ $$ AFFILIATE PROGRAM PAYING 50% COMMISSION $$ PM me if you are interested. Looking for service providers. Seriously, no bullshit. PM me with any questions.

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jenzkc Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,947 iTrader: 6 / 100%	i'm quite pleased by this. guy seems like a total douchefag. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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evelynds Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 580 iTrader: 0 / 0%	JESSE WILLMS Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ ewanetwork.com

05-23-2011, 08:58 PM	#27 (permalink)
S M W Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 441 iTrader: 2 / 100%	you think he'd be living off his millions down in argentina or somewhere that the ftc can't touch him.... what a douche. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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character Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 99 iTrader: 0 / 0%	who really thinks he has his money in USD? and he hasnt been planning this for atleast a few months? doubt any of this matters to him, really.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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penguinbc Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 432 iTrader: 6 / 100%	CTV Edmonton - Alberta online firms accused of scamming $450 million - CTV News Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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05-23-2011, 09:28 PM	#33 (permalink)
character Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 99 iTrader: 0 / 0%	cuz tha FTC aint getting SHIT Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-23-2011, 09:37 PM	#34 (permalink)
maxximum Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 24 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Jesse before Philanthropy Pt 1 Before he became a philanthropist he had these, I liked these better... SwipeBids.com Possibly Tied to Jesse Willms Just Think Media Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-23-2011, 09:41 PM	#35 (permalink)
maxximum Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 24 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Why Jesse Willms is Better Than Chuck Norris - in his own words Jesse Willms Is Chuck Norris Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-23-2011, 10:24 PM	#36 (permalink)
ChrisS Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,274 iTrader: 8 / 100%	He seems like a smart person (450 million dollars smart). He probably knew this was coming and has something stashed away. ...Or maybe he'll get fucked anyway. Karma is a bitch. Provide REAL VALUE, people. Otherwise something bad will always happen to you. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "The courageous spirit of a single man can inspire to victory an army of thousands" – Chuang-tse

05-24-2011, 01:12 AM	#38 (permalink)
jhindi Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 38 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I just want to add my 2cents here. I'm in the process of settling with the FTC on a MUCH smaller case (sorry will not go into details), so I have a little bit of experience... The FTC is NO JOKE. At the end of the day, they will get whatever they want. Before they start a case they know pretty much everything about you and your money. They know what they want and they will get it. Offshore bank accounts, this isn't they 80's, they know about them. Have a nice car? Enjoy it, because it's now their car. Oh yeah, and don't try to lie to them, it will just get you in more trouble. $450 million is not a small sum. Thats the type of shit you go to jail for. Since he is not in the US, it may be to his benefit. My case was only a few hundred thousand and they pretty much wiped me clean. Even after settling they still monitor you for a few years to come. For those that think he's just getting some slap on the wrist, not happening. Trust me, he's shitting his pants. This isn't some private corporation that will settle out of court for a million. This is the US government, and they LOVE money. They are patient. They will let you get to the top, and right when your at the top, they take you down. No warning, just a FedEx with 100 pages. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

05-24-2011, 01:30 AM	#39 (permalink)
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05-24-2011, 07:47 PM	#47 (permalink)
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